Full Version: Welcome
Can only make one email every 15 minutes. so it may take me a while to email many gappers.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 5 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]287530[/snapback]
Can only make one email every 15 minutes. so it may take me a while to email many gappers.
Checking in. Thanks for the invite.
QUOTE(johnhanks @ Mar 5 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]287575[/snapback]
Checking in. Thanks for the invite.
I seem to have been locked out of posting in the Gaps when I tried to get my email addy changed. If you have any email addresses from there or the ability to invite any other members I'd appreciate any help. I'd discussed this with MB a ways back and she wanted to let it run a little longer. Now the hosting may end at any moment and I can't email or post any further. My fault for trying to get my new email address made correct. (my old one was AOL, which I dropped.
So unfortunately unless MB oks my new registration I've done about what I could to get the word out. Tried to leave the following post on the most recently used forum. Could only email once ever 15 minutes anyway.
Wish I had known sooner. There's nothing like the sad feeling one gets when losing a group all at once. It's why I started this when C-Span "temporarily closed".
Of course all invitees are welcome to use any part of this forum. Lots of viewpoints are bandied about, and there are very few rules outside of a little bit of a humorous language filter.
Below is the note I tried to leave. Got off a couple emails.
QUOTE
Hi, I'm Arturo Vandelay, a minor member of the Gaps almost from it's inception. I was sorry to see the Gaps be discontinued and as a board owner wanted to invite anyone from there who wanted to keep in touch to use a corner of my board if they were interested. I invited Michael Willis a long ways back, and he posted a couple before he got too busy. It's hard to keep a board going and know that emails just don't keep friends together like a forum format. Maybe with a little networking you gappers could at least keep in touch. Of course the rest of the board is fairly active with people from all political persuasions and you'd all be invited to participate in any manner you see fit. But the Gaps area could be yours alone. Delete any outsiders if you please. I wouldn't interfere. I'll send this note to anyone with an email addy onboard and maybe with a little networking you could all keep in touch. Best Wishes, Arturo Vandelay. C-Span sucks Community. Sorry to ramble.
Below is the note I left on the board.
As was offered before I have plenty of extra bandwidth and an updated IPB board. I'd be happy to set aside an area and let anyone of you moderate it as you please. I've done the same for a Libertarian group from Hannity, and of course all would be welcome to participate in any other areas of my board which is what's left of the old C-Span community.
I'm sorry to see your board go, but an owner has to have time to keep things running, and it's quite a bit of work. I invited Michael Willis a ways back and he made a post or two but was pretty busy, and I didn't see him again.
I created a test FORUM at this address. Stop by if you can. Temporarily guests can post if I've set it right.
http://spannerbackup.ipbhost.com/index.php?showforum=22
Or Google C-Span sucks.
Who what huh?
QUOTE(Mizilus @ Mar 5 2007, 11:59 PM) [snapback]287690[/snapback]
Who what huh?
I invited a couple people from a board that was being discontinued to take a little corner here if they wanted to. I offered once a long time ago as well, but the owner wanted to keep things going a little longer. As a board owner I just felt bad that people were losing a place they could check by once in a while to keep in touch, and we have plenty of space. But johnhanks is the only person to come by and no answer to my couple emails, so who knows.
Of course all are welcome to post anywhere on C-Span sucks. Maybe a couple more from the Gaps will notice my post there or return my email. Best I could do.
Cool! Some more prospective loyal subjects!!
Somewhere out there there's Innocent and johnhanks at the very least. All are welcome. There's every view running around here somewhere, as well as space for any number of topics and posters, mods, subforums etc. It's paid for, might as well use it.
Yep, I did the Atlantic and NYT too, as well as CNN.
Too bad CNN didn't even tell people they were closing. (though I was warning people the day before that something was up)
Too bad CNN didn't even tell people they were closing. (though I was warning people the day before that something was up)
QUOTE(SpaceCowboy @ Mar 11 2007, 08:49 PM) [snapback]288695[/snapback]
Welcome aboard!
Welcome comrade.
(sorry, it's a bad joke because they think I'm a communist, but I'm just a Canadian immigrant whose parents were born in Russia)
(sorry, it's a bad joke because they think I'm a communist, but I'm just a Canadian immigrant whose parents were born in Russia)
Some of my favorite Gapster and other forum member posts over the years...
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
NYTimes Religion in America and Atlantic Monthly Forum Quotes - Please turn on soul!
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
-------------------------------------------------
.
.
.
.
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
The fundamentalist evangelical creed: Compassion without conversion is meaningless. - (greenhillsrh @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Fundamentalism is synonymous with false witness. - (Innocent @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
To think that only certain long-dead humans had a lock on the truth and that we should simply take their word on everything is both idolatry, because it elevates biblical redactors to the level of infallible divinities, and blasphemy, because it denigrates one of the finest aspects of creation: the human mind. - (jeniferlewis @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Spirituality, like all forms of love, is subjective. - (caintrask @NYTimes Religion in America forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
The Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
The Silver Rule: do unto others as they do unto you. - (wolfgang2a @NYTimes Religion in America forum.)
The Bronze Rule: do unto others before they do it to you. - (leszekcnn @NYTimes Religion in America)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
That's the unavoidable hazard of being a conservative -- you always lose to change eventually, because change is inevitable. (leszekcnn @NYTimes Religion in America)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
I will not stand for the falsehoods of the J4J. They are NOT Jews; They are Baptists. And, insofar as they bear false witness, they are NEITHER Jews NOR "for Jesus." - (ysolde1968 @NYTimes Religion in America)
Wolfgang's insistence that God is an old white man with a penis and testicles is not surprising. After all, when the god is male, the male is god. - (ysolde1968 @NYTimes Religion in America)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
One dealt with Chiron, the centaur tutor of Heracles (Hercules). One day, so the story goes, Herk asked Chiron what was the greatest blessing of all. Instead of answering, the centaur ran away. Heracles pursued, and overtook Chiron, since the was the only man alive that could run faster than a horse.
He got Chiron down and put his knee of his throat and demanded an answer. Chiron replied, "The greatest blessing is never to have been born."
Herk reflected that it was too late for that, so he asked for the second greatest blessing. Chiron said, "To die soon." - (John Green @The Atlantic Online Religion and Spirituality forums)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
That's "xenophobic"... I think that "zenophobia" is the fear of the idea of continuous motion in infinitely divisible space and time, or something. - (Poster @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
Zeno of Elea
http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/z/zenoelea.htm
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
When "love of god" exceeds love of humanity, horrible things happen. - (leszekcnn, @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Did Jesus say, "After he strikes you on the second cheek, go ahead and rip him a new one"? No. - (sbbarnwell, @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Losing a Church, Keeping the Faith By ANDREW SULLIVAN
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/19/opinion/19SULL.html
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
An analogy between the Pope's view of homosexuality and those of Rev. "God hats fags" Phelps:
These sorts of discussions always remind me of the difference between a kosher and a non-kosher slaughterer.
For the kosher butcher, the slaughtering is a ritual - there are blessings, rituals of sanctity, and the final execution itself - a knife drawn gently but firmly across the cow's throat.
For the gentile butcher, the slaughtering is non-sanctified and swift - a heavy hammer or bolt to the animal's head. No prayers, no sanctity - just the slaughter.
Of course, none of this makes the remotest difference to the cow. - (striver gordon, The Atlantic Religion and Spirituality forums)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Dr. Seuss New Testament:
I am Jesus.
Jesus I am.
Now you may eat
Lobster and ham.
- (brelinck @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Dr. Seuss Leviticus:
Thou shalt not do it with a goat.
Thou shalt not do it in a boat.
Thou shalt not do it with thine @ss,
Much less thy neighbor's, saucy lass!
Thou shalt not do it with an elf.
Thou shalt not do it by thyself.
Thou shalt not do it in a flood.
Thou shalt not do it if there's blood.
Thou shalt not do it if thee match.
(Don't thou know what thou couldst catch?)
Thou shalt not do it with thy mother.
But thou can with brother's brother.
Thou shalt not do it with thy dad
Unless he's sloppy drunk or mad.
Thou shalt not do it here or there.
Thou shalt not do it anywhere!
- (brelinck @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
DR. SEUSS: Why did the chicken cross the road:
Did the chicken cross the road?
Did he cross it with a toad?
Yes, the chicken crossed the road,
but why it crossed I've not been told.
- (brelinck @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
"Who"
Catholic Protestant
Muslim and Jews
Look at each other
with frightening views
What are we doing
this isn't God's plan
We are meant to be brothers
this family of man
There seems to be something
that gets in the way
Confusing ours minds
from what his words say
Love each other
the gist of his book
No matter the language
or how it may look
I've missed something
I don't understand
WHO is it then
if it isn't Gods hand
Who darkens dreams
with hatred and fear
Clouding our vision
till nothing is clear
Sharpens our rage
with a point of a knife
Who sends the misguided
to cause loss of life
Who wants the world
to tremble and shake
Who takes innocent
lives in his wake
Who breaks the spirit
then fills it with hate
Demonic decisions
sealing their fate
Who takes a man
and warps his soul
Death and destruction
his devious goal
Who turns souls black
with power or greed
Who preaches hate
planting the seed
For the slaughter of others
but who do we blame
The ultimate evil
it's done in Gods name©
Author ~M@C~ copyright © Ed Schmidt 2002-2003, @Atlantic Monthly Religion and Spirituality forums.
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
From the Institute for Stork Research and Science
Two different theories exist concerning the origin of children: the theory of Sexual reproduction, and the theory of the stork. Many people believe in the theory of sexual reproduction because they have been taught this theory at school. In reality, however, many of the world's leading scientists are in favor of the theory of the stork. If the theory of sexual reproduction is taught in schools, it must only be taught as a theory and not as the truth. Alternative theories, such as the theory of the stork, must also be taught.
Evidence supporting the theory of the stork includes the following:
1. It is a scientifically established fact that the stork does exist. This can be confirmed by every ornithologist.
2. The alleged human fetal development contains several features that the theory of sexual reproduction is unable to explain.
3. The theory of sexual reproduction implies that a child is approximately nine months old at birth. This is an absurd claim. Everyone knows that a newborn child is newborn.
4. According to the theory of sexual reproduction, children are a result of sexual intercourse. There are, however, several well documented cases where sexual intercourse has not led to the birth of a child.
5. Statistical studies in the Netherlands have indicated a positive correlation between the birth rate and the number of storks. Both are decreasing.
6. The theory of the stork can be investigated by rigorous scientific methods. The only assumption involved is that children are delivered by the stork. – Unknown – a (remarkably accurate) parody of “Creationism.”
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
NYTimes Religion in America and Atlantic Monthly Forum Quotes - Please turn on soul!
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
-------------------------------------------------
.
.
.
.
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
The fundamentalist evangelical creed: Compassion without conversion is meaningless. - (greenhillsrh @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Fundamentalism is synonymous with false witness. - (Innocent @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
To think that only certain long-dead humans had a lock on the truth and that we should simply take their word on everything is both idolatry, because it elevates biblical redactors to the level of infallible divinities, and blasphemy, because it denigrates one of the finest aspects of creation: the human mind. - (jeniferlewis @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Spirituality, like all forms of love, is subjective. - (caintrask @NYTimes Religion in America forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
The Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
The Silver Rule: do unto others as they do unto you. - (wolfgang2a @NYTimes Religion in America forum.)
The Bronze Rule: do unto others before they do it to you. - (leszekcnn @NYTimes Religion in America)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
That's the unavoidable hazard of being a conservative -- you always lose to change eventually, because change is inevitable. (leszekcnn @NYTimes Religion in America)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
I will not stand for the falsehoods of the J4J. They are NOT Jews; They are Baptists. And, insofar as they bear false witness, they are NEITHER Jews NOR "for Jesus." - (ysolde1968 @NYTimes Religion in America)
Wolfgang's insistence that God is an old white man with a penis and testicles is not surprising. After all, when the god is male, the male is god. - (ysolde1968 @NYTimes Religion in America)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
One dealt with Chiron, the centaur tutor of Heracles (Hercules). One day, so the story goes, Herk asked Chiron what was the greatest blessing of all. Instead of answering, the centaur ran away. Heracles pursued, and overtook Chiron, since the was the only man alive that could run faster than a horse.
He got Chiron down and put his knee of his throat and demanded an answer. Chiron replied, "The greatest blessing is never to have been born."
Herk reflected that it was too late for that, so he asked for the second greatest blessing. Chiron said, "To die soon." - (John Green @The Atlantic Online Religion and Spirituality forums)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
That's "xenophobic"... I think that "zenophobia" is the fear of the idea of continuous motion in infinitely divisible space and time, or something. - (Poster @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
Zeno of Elea
http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/z/zenoelea.htm
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
When "love of god" exceeds love of humanity, horrible things happen. - (leszekcnn, @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Did Jesus say, "After he strikes you on the second cheek, go ahead and rip him a new one"? No. - (sbbarnwell, @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Losing a Church, Keeping the Faith By ANDREW SULLIVAN
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/19/opinion/19SULL.html
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
An analogy between the Pope's view of homosexuality and those of Rev. "God hats fags" Phelps:
These sorts of discussions always remind me of the difference between a kosher and a non-kosher slaughterer.
For the kosher butcher, the slaughtering is a ritual - there are blessings, rituals of sanctity, and the final execution itself - a knife drawn gently but firmly across the cow's throat.
For the gentile butcher, the slaughtering is non-sanctified and swift - a heavy hammer or bolt to the animal's head. No prayers, no sanctity - just the slaughter.
Of course, none of this makes the remotest difference to the cow. - (striver gordon, The Atlantic Religion and Spirituality forums)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Dr. Seuss New Testament:
I am Jesus.
Jesus I am.
Now you may eat
Lobster and ham.
- (brelinck @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Dr. Seuss Leviticus:
Thou shalt not do it with a goat.
Thou shalt not do it in a boat.
Thou shalt not do it with thine @ss,
Much less thy neighbor's, saucy lass!
Thou shalt not do it with an elf.
Thou shalt not do it by thyself.
Thou shalt not do it in a flood.
Thou shalt not do it if there's blood.
Thou shalt not do it if thee match.
(Don't thou know what thou couldst catch?)
Thou shalt not do it with thy mother.
But thou can with brother's brother.
Thou shalt not do it with thy dad
Unless he's sloppy drunk or mad.
Thou shalt not do it here or there.
Thou shalt not do it anywhere!
- (brelinck @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
DR. SEUSS: Why did the chicken cross the road:
Did the chicken cross the road?
Did he cross it with a toad?
Yes, the chicken crossed the road,
but why it crossed I've not been told.
- (brelinck @NYTimes Religion in America Forum)
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
"Who"
Catholic Protestant
Muslim and Jews
Look at each other
with frightening views
What are we doing
this isn't God's plan
We are meant to be brothers
this family of man
There seems to be something
that gets in the way
Confusing ours minds
from what his words say
Love each other
the gist of his book
No matter the language
or how it may look
I've missed something
I don't understand
WHO is it then
if it isn't Gods hand
Who darkens dreams
with hatred and fear
Clouding our vision
till nothing is clear
Sharpens our rage
with a point of a knife
Who sends the misguided
to cause loss of life
Who wants the world
to tremble and shake
Who takes innocent
lives in his wake
Who breaks the spirit
then fills it with hate
Demonic decisions
sealing their fate
Who takes a man
and warps his soul
Death and destruction
his devious goal
Who turns souls black
with power or greed
Who preaches hate
planting the seed
For the slaughter of others
but who do we blame
The ultimate evil
it's done in Gods name©
Author ~M@C~ copyright © Ed Schmidt 2002-2003, @Atlantic Monthly Religion and Spirituality forums.
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
From the Institute for Stork Research and Science
Two different theories exist concerning the origin of children: the theory of Sexual reproduction, and the theory of the stork. Many people believe in the theory of sexual reproduction because they have been taught this theory at school. In reality, however, many of the world's leading scientists are in favor of the theory of the stork. If the theory of sexual reproduction is taught in schools, it must only be taught as a theory and not as the truth. Alternative theories, such as the theory of the stork, must also be taught.
Evidence supporting the theory of the stork includes the following:
1. It is a scientifically established fact that the stork does exist. This can be confirmed by every ornithologist.
2. The alleged human fetal development contains several features that the theory of sexual reproduction is unable to explain.
3. The theory of sexual reproduction implies that a child is approximately nine months old at birth. This is an absurd claim. Everyone knows that a newborn child is newborn.
4. According to the theory of sexual reproduction, children are a result of sexual intercourse. There are, however, several well documented cases where sexual intercourse has not led to the birth of a child.
5. Statistical studies in the Netherlands have indicated a positive correlation between the birth rate and the number of storks. Both are decreasing.
6. The theory of the stork can be investigated by rigorous scientific methods. The only assumption involved is that children are delivered by the stork. – Unknown – a (remarkably accurate) parody of “Creationism.”
_.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._
Wow, you even give credit. I always figure it's easier just to steal the good stuff.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 11 2007, 09:50 PM) [snapback]288716[/snapback]
Wow, you even give credit. I always figure it's easier just to steal the good stuff.
The good stuff always deserves credit.
Opposite view:
Imitation is the sincerest form of copyright infringement. - Unknown
QUOTE(Pravda @ Mar 11 2007, 08:59 PM) [snapback]288699[/snapback]
Welcome comrade.
(sorry, it's a bad joke because they think I'm a communist, but I'm just a Canadian immigrant whose parents were born in Russia)
Приветствия к вам камрад
Don't be impressed...
QUOTE(Innocent @ Mar 11 2007, 06:59 PM) [snapback]288717[/snapback]
And here I am trying to get English right.
On the other hand that could be jibberish, and I wouldn't know.
Приветствия к вам камрад
Funny, Google it and it leads to http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/1828
Scores from my favorite political test.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 11 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]288720[/snapback]
And here I am trying to get English right.
On the other hand that could be jibberish, and I wouldn't know.
Приветствия к вам камрад
Приветствия к вам камрад (Russian) = Greetings to you comrade (English)
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 11 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]288720[/snapback]
Funny, Google it and it leads to http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/1828
Scores from my favorite political test.
The Political Compass is a pretty good one. I'm guessing most people here have taken it. I've seen it show up in various forums over the years. If not, I recommend it.
http://spannerbackup.ipbhost.com/index.php...mp;#entry288725
We have a whole thread on it. Bee kept the score neat.
We have a whole thread on it. Bee kept the score neat.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 11 2007, 10:31 PM) [snapback]288726[/snapback]
http://spannerbackup.ipbhost.com/index.php...mp;#entry288725
We have a whole thread on it. Bee kept the score neat.
Added my scores... The test appears to have changed a little from last time...
Mood matters. some days I just feel more radical than others. A woman hanging from a crane or getting lashed for being raped helps radicalize me.
QUOTE(Pravda @ Mar 11 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]288699[/snapback]
Welcome comrade.
(sorry, it's a bad joke because they think I'm a communist, but I'm just a Canadian immigrant whose parents were born in Russia)
"They" think yer a communist? They who? Whats up with that?
I dunno. Right when you've reached the end of your probationary period you go and do something like this. I'm of a mind to recommend you for re-education/assimilation. I guess LP was right about you.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.