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davis¹³
The photo site must be having problems. Everything is fine here and in my pc.
smerf
lol
Mizilus
"DeLay said -- apparently with a straight face -- that the change was needed to protect Republicans from the Democrats' "politics of personal destruction."


ROFLMFAO!!

Did anyone really expect anything less from this gang of thieves?
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (Mizilus @ Nov 23 2004, 02:36 PM)
"DeLay said -- apparently with a straight face -- that the change was needed to protect Republicans from the Democrats' "politics of personal destruction."
ROFLMFAO!!

Did anyone really expect anything less from this gang of thieves?
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No.
davis¹³
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Did anyone really expect anything less from this gang of thieves?


I must admit, I did not expect that kind of a statement from that lowlife scumbag SOB.
Mizilus
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Nov 23 2004, 11:38 AM)
I must admit, I did not expect that kind of a statement from that lowlife scumbag SOB.
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Ya gotta be kidding.
davis¹³
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Politics of personal destruction rules as long as DeLay himself isn't the target.
Bart Katz
Tom Delay is the chairman of my task force. He calls and asks for money. Do you suppose he's ... .. .. ...with my $$?
davis¹³
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Tom Delay is the chairman of my task force. He calls and asks for money. Do you suppose he's ... .. .. ...with my $$?


Don't ask, he won't tell. Even if you do ask, he's still not tellin'.

If nobody inquires, nobody gets hurt.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Nov 23 2004, 03:05 PM)
Don't ask, he won't tell. Even if you do ask, he's still not tellin'.

If nobody inquires, nobody gets hurt.
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I don't want him spending my money in Washington brothels. I'd rather spend it myself.
Mizilus
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Nov 23 2004, 01:01 PM)
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Politics of personal destruction rules as long as DeLay himself isn't the target.
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I guess delay didnt see any of AWOLs campaign ads.
davis¹³
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Prosecutor Blasts GOP for Shielding DeLay

By Associated Press

November 23, 2004, 7:30 PM EST


NEW YORK -- A Texas prosecutor who is leading an investigation into possible illegal campaign spending lashed out at congressional Republicans on Tuesday for changing their rules in order to protect House Majority Leader Tom DeLay.

The House Republicans repealed a rule that automatically required party leaders or committee chairmen to step down if they are indicted on a felony charge. The new rule provides for a case-by-case review.

The change means DeLay could maintain his power if indicted in the investigation being conducted by Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle.

"Politicians in Congress are responsible for the leaders they choose. Their choices reflect their moral values," Earle wrote in an opinion piece published Tuesday in The New York Times. "The cynical destruction of moral values at the top makes it hard for law enforcement to do its job."

Earle has not said that DeLay is a target, but three of DeLay's top lieutenants have been indicted.

Republicans have accused Earle, a Democrat, of using the investigation as a partisan witch hunt or fishing expedition.

The investigation centers on the use of corporate campaign contributions, long outlawed in Texas, to help secure a Republican majority in the state Legislature in the 2002 election. The corporate donations were made to Texans for a Republican Majority, a political action committee created with help from DeLay.

"It is a rare day when members of the United States Congress try to read the minds of the members of a grand jury in Travis County, Texas. Apparently Tom DeLay's colleagues expect him to be indicted," Earle wrote.

A spokesman in DeLay's office did not immediately return calls seeking comment.




http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wi...world-headlines
Mizilus
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Nov 19 2004, 12:18 PM)
The Ethics committee report on Tom Delay is coming up next on c-span, as if anyone cares.
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ROFLMAO!

As if hypocrites give a sh_t.
davis¹³
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Corporate PAC's Backed Republicans 10 to 1
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: November 26, 2004




WASHINGTON, Nov. 25 (AP) - The top-giving corporate political action committees did not hedge their bets in the fall elections despite the narrow division between Republicans and Democrats in Congress.

They favored Republican candidates 10 to 1.

Of 268 corporate PAC's that donated $100,000 or more to presidential and Congressional candidates from January 2003 through the middle of last month, 245 gave the majority of their contributions to Republicans, according to an analysis released Wednesday by Political Money Line, a nonpartisan campaign finance tracking service.

Twenty-three corporate PAC's made more than half their donations to Democrats, according to the study, based on the most recent campaign finance reports available.

Corporate PAC's are financed with limited donations from company employees, who can each give up to $5,000 a year. In turn, the PAC's can donate up to $5,000 for a primary and another $5,000 for the general election to each federal candidate they support.

No money from the corporation itself can go to Congressional or presidential candidates.

These were the five most-Republican-leaning corporate political action committees:

¶Cooper Industries PAC: All $208,000 to Republicans. Cooper Industries, based in Houston, makes hardware and electrical and automotive products.

¶Flowers Industries PAC: All $131,500 to Republican candidates. Flowers Industries, a bakery company, is based in Thomasville, Ga.

¶The PAC of Phillips International: All $113,500 to Republicans. Phillips is a publishing company in Potomac, Md.

¶Harris Corporation Federal PAC: $168,500 to Republicans; $4,000 to Democrats. Harris, based in Melbourne, Fla., is an international communications equipment company.

¶Illinois Tool Works for Better Government Committee: $139,500 to Republicans; $5,000 to Democrats.

These were the five most-Democratic-leaning political action committees:

¶Cablevision Systems Corporation PAC: $88,000 to Democrats; $24,500 to Republicans.

¶The PAC of MWH Americas: $69,334 to Democrats; $48,000 to Republicans. MWH Americas is a construction and engineering company based in Broomfield, Colo.

¶The PAC of the LaSalle Bank Corporation of Chicago and its Standard Federal Bank subsidiary: $65,250 to Democrats; $47,500 to Republican candidates.

¶New York Mercantile Exchange PAC: $200,500 to Democrats; $148,000 to Republicans.

¶Harrah's Entertainment casino company PAC: $75,767 to Democrats; $57,793 to Republicans.

Republicans increased their majorities in both houses of Congress in the Nov. 2 elections.

When lawmakers take office in January, the Senate will have 55 Republicans, 44 Democrats and one independent. There are now 51 Republicans, 48 Democrats and one independent.

The House breakdown after the November elections is 231 Republicans, 200 Democrats and one independent, with three races not yet decided. Before the elections, there were 227 Republicans, 205 Democrats, one independent and two vacancies.
davis¹³
CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR POLL

Should Earle be prosecuting Rep. DeLay and his associates so aggressively?



Yes. His brave fight against corporate money polluting the electoral process is vital to democracy. 90.88 % (249)



No. Earle's tough stand is politically motivated and has become a witch hunt. 9.12 % (25)



Total votes: 274




http://www.csmonitor.com/
davis¹³
Now there's a mandate.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Dec 3 2004, 08:52 AM)
Now there's a mandate.
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Yeah, if you're a Christian Scientist. smile.gif
davis¹³
I don't think only Christian Science members read the paper. I've never even met one.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Dec 3 2004, 08:55 AM)
I don't think only Christian Science members read the paper. I've never even met one.
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The name alone should make you shudder. But then I notice it being quoted much here lately.
davis¹³
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The name alone should make you shudder. But then I notice it being quoted much here lately.


no, it doesn't.

However, some of their practices are really weird. But no odder than, say ... marrying in crowds of hundreds by Moon?


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Washington Times. The name doesn't make me shudder, but the moonies sure do.


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Nomarchy
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Dec 3 2004, 08:11 AM)
The name alone should make you shudder.  But then I notice it being quoted much here lately.
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Is the paper a religious periodical?

No, it's a real newspaper published by a church — The First Church of Christ, Scientist in Boston, Mass., USA. Everything in the Monitor is international and US news and features, except for one religious article that has appeared each day in The Home Forum section since 1908, at the request of the paper's founder, Mary Baker Eddy.

In an age of corporate conglomerates dominating news media, the Monitor combination of church ownership, a public-service mission, and commitment to covering the world (not to mention the fact that it was founded by a woman shortly after the turn of the century, when US women didn't yet have the vote!) gives the paper a uniquely independent voice in journalism.

How do you compare to other newspapers covering international news?

Unlike most US dailies, the Monitor does not rely primarily on wire services, like AP and Reuters, for its international coverage. We have writers based in 11 countries, including Russia, China, France, the UK, Kenya, Mexico, Israel and India, as well as throughout the US.

Why does the Christian Science church publish a newspaper?

One answer might be found in a story the Monitor's Washington bureau chief, David Cook, told in a talk he gave several years ago:

“Consider this case. It is 1907. An elderly New England woman finds herself being targeted by Joseph Pulitzer's New York World. She is 86 years old and holds some unconventional religious beliefs that she expounds in a book. The book becomes a bestseller, making her wealthy and a well-known public figure.

The New York World decides she is incapable of managing her own affairs and persuades some of her friends and her two sons to sue for control of her estate.

Although Boston and New Hampshire newspapers and major wire services interview this person and find her competent, the New York World is unrelenting. The lady in question finally is taken to court where the case against her is dropped.

And the next year this woman, Mary Baker Eddy, founds The Christian Science Monitor.

Given her experience with the press, it is not all that surprising that she sets as the Monitor's goal ‘to injure no man, but to bless all mankind.’ In one of life's little ironies, Joseph Pulitzer went on to endow the Pulitzer prizes for journalistic excellence. And Mrs. Eddy's newspaper went on to win five Pulitzers so far. [Since Dave gave this talk, the Monitor won a sixth Pulitzer — the 1996 prize for international reporting, and a seventh Pulitzer in 2002 for editorial cartooning.]

“Mrs. Eddy had been thinking about a newspaper for a long time before 1907. Way back in 1883 she wrote: ‘Looking over the newspapers of the day, one naturally reflects that it is dangerous to live, so loaded with disease seems the very air. These descriptions carry fears to many minds, to be depicted in some future time upon the body. A periodical of our own will counteract to some extent this public nuisance; for through our paper we shall be able to reach many homes with healing, purifying thought.’

There were many more letters and messages to church members from Eddy on the subject between then and the New York World case. Then an interesting coincidence occurred in March 1908, eight months before the paper's launch: Eddy received a long letter from a local journalist and Christian Scientist, John L. Wright. In it, he told her he felt there was a growing need for a daily newspaper that ‘will place principle before dividends, and that will be fair, frank and honest with the people on all subjects and under whatever pressure’ — a truly independent voice not controlled by ‘commercial and political monopolists.’

Wright certainly got the idea. (A few months later he left the Boston Globe to become the Monitor's first city editor.) His was among 1,000 job applications the Monitor's first editor, Archibald McLellan, received prior to launch.”

Is publishing the Monitor about spreading good values?

That's part of it, but let's be clear: The Christian Science church doesn't publish news to propagate denominational doctrine; it provides news purely as a public service. Here's why: If the basic theology of that church says that what reaches and affects thought shapes experience, it follows that a newspaper would have significant impact on the lives of those who read it.

A newspaper whose motive is “to injure no man, but to bless all mankind,” as its founder charged, would have a "leavening" effect on society, as well as on individual lives — to use a metaphor Eddy herself appreciated and used. The idea is that the unblemished truth is freeing (as a fundamental human right); with it, citizens can make informed decisions and take intelligent action, for themselves and for society.

Then if the paper's basically secular and for everybody, why is “Christian Science” in its name?

Eddy insisted, against strong opposition from some of her advisers and church officers, that the words “Christian Science” should be in the paper's name. According to one of her biographers, Robert Peel, to Eddy, "the designated title was an identification of the paper with the promise that no human situation was beyond healing or rectification if approached with sufficient understanding of man's God-given potentialities. Nor did the “good news” of Christianity involve the prettification of bad news, but rather, its confident confrontation" (witness Monitor correspondent David Rohde's Pulitzer Prize-winning reporting 1995 on alleged massacres by Bosnian Serb forces.


About the Monitor
davis¹³
ohhh, the mind over matter lady.
patheticJT
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Nov 18 2004, 07:36 PM)
Listen, asswipe, quit defending DeLay. You have a long history of defending crooks, starting with the Enron etc. "geniuses'. Shut the fark up.

Kofi Annan is not a crook. Not everyone is like the inner-circle of the Bush II Administration.
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ANGRY WHITE LIBERAL MALE......................ROFLMAO laugh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif
Nomarchy
QUOTE (patheticJT @ Dec 3 2004, 10:00 AM)
ANGRY WHITE LIBERAL MALE......................ROFLMAO laugh.gif  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif  biggrin.gif
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What's your excuse? Anencephaly? Scatocephaly? Too much lead in the water? Bad genes?
davis¹³
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Too much lead in the water? Bad genes?




both?
Bart Katz
My mom used to get the CSM in the mail for free back when I was a kid. I think they purposely sent it to teachers. I was more of a "Weekly Reader" person, myself.
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Dec 3 2004, 02:11 PM)
My mom used to get the CSM in the mail for free back when I was a kid.  I think they purposely sent it to teachers.  I was more of a "Weekly Reader" person, myself.
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One of my great aunts was a teacher. She used to send the coolest books for our birthday and Christmas presents, carefully selected from award winning children’s books.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Dec 3 2004, 01:16 PM)
One of my great aunts was a teacher. She used to send the coolest books for our birthday and Christmas presents, carefully selected from award winning children’s books.
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Mom taught Engrish. laugh.gif laugh.gif
underhi2p
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Dec 3 2004, 03:11 PM)
My mom used to get the CSM in the mail for free back when I was a kid.  I think they purposely sent it to teachers.  I was more of a "Weekly Reader" person, myself.
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I was a big fan of Grit.
davis¹³
I thought all you guys were old. I remember Grit and the Weekly Reader.


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whoops, I'm ollllllldddddd.....


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Bart Katz
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Dec 3 2004, 02:37 PM)
I thought all you guys were old. I remember Grit and the Weekly Reader.
laugh.gif  huh.gif  huh.gif
whoops, I'm ollllllldddddd.....
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Kids that couldn't get paper routes sold Grit and Cloverine salve. laugh.gif
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Dec 3 2004, 08:54 PM)
Kids that couldn't get paper routes sold Grit and Cloverine salve.  laugh.gif
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My brother and I had paper routes in the seventh and eighth grades. That was a kewel deal, if you didn’t mind the early hours and exercise.

Everybody threw papers from a bike back then. We always threw to the door, but nowadays some guy drives by my house in a pickup truck and pitches the paper at the end of the driveway.

Duplexes and triplexes were common on military bases, so that, and the consistency of the sidewalk system in the planned housing developments helped make it work for the bikes.
Mizilus
tom 'the exterminator' delay sold grit. Every Amurrican good 'ol boy did.


Its the repuslickan way. Entrepreneur and all..
davis¹³
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Cloverine salve.




laugh.gif laugh.gif

Thanks. I'm not as old as I thought. Even I haven't heard of that one.



"ehhhh sonny? Don't forget the Schmechler's Powder!!"
davis¹³
Well, you "values" folks should be proud of your "values" leaders.


They get a lock on power and what's one of the first things they do? Pass legislation demanded by the Contract for America that demanded ethical accountability for politicians?


Noooooo, this is much, much better. Now, thanks to the wonderful "values" people that got into office by claiming they are inherently morally superior to EVERYONE, all congressmen and senior government officials (read:family and friends) can now become lobbyists only 30 days after leaving their former positions.



Now, your golden boy, Republican corporate whores can take a little vacation from his or her cabinet or government position, come back and lobby the very same corporate assholes they were directing 31 days before.

Gee, I never read THAT in the Contract for America.


Your "values" are ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS. You have - 0 - moral high ground.

Your Republican leaders are nothing but greedy, corporate opportunistic whores who have used the faith-based to get elected so they could line their pockets with cash.

As far as I'm concerned, if anyone still backs them because they are ethical, fine, upstanding men of faith, they either have had a lobotomy or they just idiots.


This really makes me want to throw up. Freaking crooks are blatant about it too.



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Lobbying Prohibitions Eased For Former Top Officials

By Dana Milbank and Jim VandeHei
Sunday, December 5, 2004; Page A05

The timing was perfect: On Nov. 23 -- exactly three weeks after the election and as a flurry of top Bush administration officials announced their departures -- the Office of Government Ethics declared that it was relaxing prohibitions on lobbying by former Cabinet secretaries and other top officials.


Until now, senior officials at Cabinet departments and agencies had not been allowed to lobby former colleagues for a full year after leaving office -- a rule designed to prevent an obvious conflict of interest. But, in a notice in the Federal Register, the ethics office issued a new rule invoking its power to declare that "a former senior employee who served in a 'parent' department or agency is not barred . . . from making communications to or appearances before any employee of any designated component of that parent."




Specifically, the Department of Homeland Security "requested that the [Ethics] Director designate seven distinct and separate components in DHS," including the Secret Service, the Coast Guard, the Transportation Security Administration, and the Emergency Preparedness and Response functions. The Justice and Treasury departments made similar requests.

These changes were so urgent that the ethics office found that "good cause exists for waiving the general requirements for notice of proposed rulemaking, opportunity for public comment and . . . a 30-day delayed effective date."

Larry Noble, executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics watchdog group, was not amused.

"It's a problem," he said, noting that the administration also expanded the "banding," or ranges, of asset values that must be reported, making it more difficult for the public to know how wealthy government officials are. "We're seeing a general loosening of ethics rules," he said.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...9-2004Dec4.html



Wasn't someone going to "return honor or integrity" to the White House, or some other equally meaningless Republican bullshit lies? Well, NOW do you rightwingers see why I'm soooo damned mad at these hypocritical, self-serving jerks?
davis¹³
Ethics office?

What a joke. Republicans and ethics mix like oil and water.
SpaceCowboy
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The timing was perfect: On Nov. 23 -- exactly three weeks after the election and as a flurry of top Bush administration officials announced their departures -- the Office of Government Ethics declared that it was relaxing prohibitions on lobbying by former Cabinet secretaries and other top officials.



Thank God. Praise Jesus!
davis¹³
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Praise Jesus!



indeed
Repub_Bub
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Dec 5 2004, 01:24 PM)
[Wasn't someone going to "return honor or integrity" to the White House, or some other equally meaningless Republican bullshit lies?  Well, NOW do you rightwingers see why I'm soooo damned mad at these hypocritical, self-serving jerks?
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Mebbe this will help.....

davis¹³
I'll be darned.


I wonder if it's available in sandlewood?
Repub_Bub
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Dec 5 2004, 03:56 PM)
I'll be darned.
I wonder if it's available in sandlewood?
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How 'bout rosebud?
davis¹³
That's pretty darned funny bub.
davis¹³
Rosebud. The name of Orson Wells/Citizen Kane's sled.
davis¹³
Can you say corporate whore?





Interior Department's No. 2 Resigns After Controversial Tenure

By Juliet Eilperin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 8, 2004; Page A10

J. Steven Griles, the former timber and energy lobbyist who managed the country's vast mineral and land holdings as the Interior Department's No. 2 official, resigned yesterday and said he would return to the private sector.

Griles, a vocal advocate for drilling and logging on public lands as Interior's deputy secretary, won praise from industry but came under intense scrutiny for maintaining close ties to his former lobbying firm and its clients. An 18-month investigation by the department's inspector general found that he had dealings with energy and mining industry clients of National Environmental Strategies Inc. even as he continued to receive payments from his former firm. The report did not accuse Griles of violating any laws or federal ethics rules.

Why not? Why is this a-hole able to do this? Why the bleep do we even have an ethics committee?




In an interview yesterday, Griles defended his record, saying those who "came after me with a political agenda opposed this president at the very beginning."

"In 22 years of service, I have assured that the environment is healthier, the air is clearer, the water is safer and the land is being reclaimed," said Griles, 56, adding that he planned to go someplace warm and work on his golf game before choosing his next job. "At the same time, there is a tremendous need for energy in this county."

Interior Secretary Gale A. Norton, who defended her deputy when he came under fire, wrote to Griles upon learning of his resignation, "Yours is the letter I hoped would never come." She added that through their joint efforts, "we have improved the health of public land forests and rangelands and enhanced wildlife refuges and our national parks."

Environmentalists hailed Griles's departure, saying he had blocked wilderness protections and promoted energy interests since joining Norton's side in July 2001. Friends of the Earth program director David Hirsch, whose group obtained logs of his meetings with former clients and administration officials on regulatory issues that mattered to several of his old clients, mocked the idea that Griles is returning to private life.

"That's the whole problem: He never left private life. He spent four years working for his former clients at the Department of Interior," Hirsch said. "It didn't seem to matter how many problems came out, he just kept going. He's the Energizer Bunny of conflict of interest."


Under an arrangement approved by the Office of Government Ethics and the Senate, Griles was allowed to receive payments totaling more than $1 million from 2001 to 2005 as part of a buyout by the firm while collecting his $150,000 annual federal salary, and he agreed to recuse himself from matters affecting his former firm's clients. Earthjustice legislative counsel Joan Mulhern said she suspected Griles is leaving "now that he can no longer double-dip at the taxpayers' expense."


Griles, however, had backers on Capitol Hill and in the industries he regulated. "U.S. energy policy will miss his rare expertise in both the private sector and in government," said National Mining Association spokesman Luke Popovich.

Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.) said in an interview yesterday that Griles would be remembered for being "an extraordinarily competent administrator. He's kept the trains running at the Interior Department, and he served his president and his country well."

For his part, Griles said he was proudest that he had started a dialogue between conservation groups and energy executives that had prompted the Bureau of Land Management to adopt more environmentally sensitive management practices and had inspired Interior officials to put part of Montana's Western Front off-limits to oil and gas development.

"I am more than happy to say I was part of making that happen," he said.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...0-2004Dec7.html

how about chucking that phony assed ethics committee? sorry lil bart.
davis¹³
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he agreed to recuse himself from matters affecting his former firm's clients. Earthjustice legislative counsel Joan Mulhern said she suspected Griles is leaving "now that he can no longer double-dip at the taxpayers' expense."


in 31 days he can do anything he wants.

Chaaaachingggg!
davis¹³
Wasn't someone going to "return honor or integrity" to the White House, or some other equally meaningless Republican bullshit lies? Well, NOW do you rightwingers see why I'm soooo damned mad at these hypocritical, self-serving jerks?
Repub_Bub
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Dec 8 2004, 12:52 PM)
Wasn't someone going to "return honor or integrity" to the White House, or some other equally meaningless Republican bullshit lies?  Well, NOW do you rightwingers see why I'm soooo damned mad at these hypocritical, self-serving jerks?
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I can't believe you would actually suspect a public servant of a misdeed.
davis¹³
shocking, isn't it? Especially one who is so pious and meek
Repub_Bub
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Dec 8 2004, 01:36 PM)
shocking, isn't it? Especially one who is so pious and meek
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We pious folk are easily shocked....
davis¹³
gasp!!
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