Don't mind poor Bee. She hasn't had any for a long time now.

Yeah, hours.

This is inappropriate, you chauvinist jerk.

We're down to 3 women?

You want us all to leave? How about you and Ills join an all-boys club or lay off the sexist remarks?

Thanks.

Nice Mz Bee doesn't like to compare deek sizes anymore? Fancy that.

It's pretty obvious to most that it ain't just your mind that's small.

Wanna run with the boys? Grow a pair. Wanna be treated like a lady? Learn to act like one. How difficult is that to understand?

I am a lady. Especially when in the company of gentlemen. You're nothing of the sort, and blantantly lacking in any type of courtesy, Katz. The notion of you lecturing anyone here on courtesy is laughable.

You are a chavinist pig and the lack of female posters here is just the reality you'd rather overlook due to your lack of same.

You are legendary in that regard. It's rather a horrid thing to be known for, IMO. Not something to be proud of at any rate. My perceived discourtesy is certainly no excuse for any, as any gentleman knows. Anyone that dares to stick up to your blatent chavinism is called "whipped" or "grovelling." It's tiresome.

Your sexual badgering of the females on this forum is disgusting and shows a lack of any real argument on actual issues on your part.

I pity you old man.

Bee...you must understand something about men...the more they mistreat women is a dead giveaway to their feelings of sexual inadequecy...everytime bart puts you down, or utters a disgusting sexual innuendo, he's actually declaring to everyone that he is a dud in the sack...

Don't let it get to you...he's making a fool out of himself, and he doesn't even realize it.

Pathetic, really....

Yes, and tiresome.

I've had it. Goodnght bix.

To put it mildly.

Goodnight, Bee

Oh, please, let's just stop with this nonsense!

Just leave it alone, will ya? What's the point?

I'm not the one that brought up deek sizes, etc in the first place. You and a couple of former posters did. Thinking that's what you wanted to talk about, I just extended the conversation.

You want to talk that poop, go ahead on, and I'll try to hang with you. If you don't then just shut the fork up and see what happens. Meantime go iron some shirts, beyotch.

You can stay out of it or jump in, whatever you have a mind to. I'm just tired of that beyotch talking poop, and then when someone takes her up on it, falling back on her supposed ladyhood.

I do not like people talking poop about their own or anybody else's equipment or sex lives.

Since Bee seems to be the official deek inspector, I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

Watu iz disu deeku yu ar ru supikinu of fu?

I could be more sympathetic to Legions position if this same argument hasn't bubbled up with him with nearly every other female he's had a disagreement with and run off, or exhausted the patince of.

I do wish people would stop feeding trolls

Taking everything into consideration, it is my considered opinion that it's not a matter of any kind of misogynism on his part.

I could give a fork less whether you sympathize.

One needs must study falconry, to get a Kiss from Kate

It's fun to watch her lose it. I make a reference to a lame comment she makes on the board and she goes straight to what she thinks is the toughest personal attack.

Then she turns around and claims her needs are beeing fulfilled on a daily basis.

It sure reflects well on his Christian upbringing.

Oh, right, "Don't tell me how to practice my religion you elite blue state beaotch, go iron some shirts."

I believe that was Luke, chapter 6, verse 8. Red print.

You better crack down now because lobbyists own our country. Lock, stock and DeLay.

Campaigners angry that curbs on special interest groups have been watered down

David Gow in Brussels
Monday May 30, 2005
The Guardian

The European commission has been accused of watering down plans to impose greater control over the activities of business lobbyists amid allegations that they have used their financial muscle and influence among legislators to secure pro-business changes to EU laws.

The Brussels "lobbycracy", thought to number 15,000 people representing 2,600 interest groups, is said to wield inordinate and unaccountable influence over the three institutions at the heart of the EU's legislative process: the commission, council of ministers and the parliament. The issue of their power has been heightened by recent disclosures that a new directive on money-laundering has been significantly softened in the European parliament by MEPs close to the financial services industry, including one who chairs a hedge fund and another who is an executive at a bank that is being investigated for money-laundering.


John Monks, European TUC leader, said recently that more diplomats and lobbyists had been engaged in the campaign to persuade MEPs to retain, amend or scrap the individual opt-out from the maximum 48-hour working week than at any time outside war.

In March Siim Kallas, the commissioner for administration, audit and anti-fraud, proposed a "European transparency initiative" that could enforce a mandatory register of lobbyists. He admitted that current voluntary registers "do not provide much information on the specific interests represented or how it is financed".

He added: "Self-imposed codes of conduct have few signatories and have so far lacked serious sanctions. Lobbyists can have considerable influence on legislation ... But their transparency is too deficient in comparison to the impact of their activities." His remarks, at Nottingham Business School, raised expectations that he could opt, in a promised white paper this spring, for the full-scale, comprehensive register of lobby interests conducted in the US, notably in Congress, and Canada.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0...1495168,00.html

Please. Bart isn't the poster that claims he's read the Bible cover to cover a minimum of three times.


While still in school.

Yeah sure. Whatever. Red state morals and values suck, big time.


His morals and values are lacking. Every time he opens his mouth it is overwhelmingly apparent.

IMO Bee has genuine compassion. Him? Nothing but huge piles of bullsh*t.

I have never seen so many hypocritical Christians in my life. And I wil call attention to it.

Get elected with morals and values then act like forking animals. It makes me sick.

LMAO. Get real. Genuine compassion? You're on acid.
She just responded to an on thread comment with an imagined failing of another poster.
It's funny the two items she chose to attack on. Failed relationship and drinking problem. When one considers how often she posts while clearly inebriated, I'd have to conclude that she is projecting on both accounts.

You know HI, it is possible to become sick and tired of folks like Katz who shamelessly exploit religion for political purposes.

These lowlife, profiteering, scum sucking Republican hypocrites make me want to puke.

They are faaaaar from moral and dismiss their values in a heartbeat when it comes to say... money.

Even their double standards when it relates to the unborn. Abortion is evil yet mercury poisoning, which causes birth defects is IGNORED or at least dismissed because their corporate backers would lose money if they demanded cleaner energy.


Nooooo, sorry dude, Bee has a million times the compassion that Katz will EVER have.

I am sick of Republican double standards.

If you run on morals and values maybe, just maybe you should be moral or have values.


<rant over>

Hiding behind the igonore button are you davis? What a chicken poop piece of poop.

Davis mentions religion more than anyone. The most consistent theme in his rants.

It's a joke. Katz gets personal when others get personal with him. Bee gets personal when others point out a shortcoming in her logic. Whatever davey doo.

Whoa now, wait a minute. Where in this thread did I bring that up? When Judy and I were making those jokes, in retaliation to your sexist remarks AV nuked the whole folder. I apologized, so did Judy, and the only one bringing up small dicks anymore is YOU.

Obsessed? Looks like it. You'll pull any shit out of your ass to excuse your inappropriate and disgusting comments, now you've got your sophomoric cheering section and I see Judy is gone and bds hasn't posted out of disgust with your other fan.

Now we're down to one female poster? As I said, you're a backward, fargin, chavanistic jerk with a considerable insecurity complex. It's pretty obvious over what, and that is YOUR problem, bucko.

Doing gender?

I suppose you arrived at your conclusion due to all the times Katz has told hunin to "shut up bitch and iron my shirt?" Or is it all the times he's commented on Grig's "fat ass?" Or insinuated that Celt's a "whore?" Or perhaps the fact that whenever you disagree with him he suggests you haven't "had any for a long time?"

You aren't usually one to ignore reality...

Of the 5 posts you made 3 were "mocking" (your own definition) my posts. "Mocking" another poster is hardly "on topic."

The only thing that's "clear" is your active and pathetic harassment.

Mornin bee. I see you've noticed the smoking crater.

Yes, the three goons have been quite busy I see and AV is ready to initiate the "Nuclear" option.

I've been thinking there must be some way to protect minority feelings here without him having to babysit the worst offenders (something I know he won't do on principle).

As usual, you are inaccurate. I read the OT cover to cover twice, and the NT cover to cover twice. I also attended mass in school! Imagine that! Chaminade College Preparatory, run by the Catholic Marinist order, made us study the Bible for 4 years. Tested us on it, too. In our junior and senior years they made us study "world religion" and do "Christian Service," with a list of places we had to volunteer, too.

Imagine a "Christian school" doing that.



What, precisely does THAT have to do with Bart's inappropriate sexual comments? Or is this your idea of being "on topic", again?

Since Barto posted photos of the compound leg fractures with the bones jutting out through the skin and the open wound of a stump on a leg that had been surgically removed I have had him on ignore.

It was disgusting. Artie doesn't want to censor, which I really don't want either, but I will if that's what it leads to.

If others want to talk to him, fine. I don't have to.

I just don't want to see that kind of stuff.

I nuked the folder at Judy's request. I merely closed it for a few hours WELL after everyone was gone and deleted a few nasty posts, my own included in the early AM on my own initiative. Then opened back up until Judy said to kill the whole thing.

People want to say what they please, then claim special privelege when they get their own crap back. I left it all TOTALLY alone for months. Took my own abuse, and still do. It seems to be all's fair on the attack, and God forbid on the defense.

Like it or not political boards have more men than women unless they focus on women's issues. The women like (most of the straight ones at any rate) it when guys are flirting and being deferential, but it's going to work the other way too. Those men that disagree will be plentiful as well.

lil bart didn't say anything about leaving, just she was fed up with Bub. Like everything else on a political board I assume that cuts both ways too. If we're all going to leave because people dissagree, even violently disagree it's going to be a small board FAST.

You may not notice it, but "your side" has it's goons and hardball players too. You play pretty tough yourself, and I really don't see why you shouldn't be able to. Just try and look at the big picture and see that you and your friends aren't the only ones being attacked.

Hunin was posting headless corpses and the like on his Iraq board. I posted some in return, then it moved to the news board. We came to an agreement that we'd keep the gore to the Iraq board and for the most part we have. When people decide to come to agreements it works out better.

If everyone were as willing as hunin to cooperate we'd be doing much better.

You know I don't want to see that either. I sent hunin both a private message and told him on the board that I didn't appreciate the graphic stuff.

Barto posted those disgusting wound photos in response to hunin's photos of a soldier walking on a treadmill with a prothstetic leg.

Barto's photos were from South Africa and had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq, soldiers or anything even close to relevant.

That's pretty amazing. She posted eight to my one. All I did was call attention to her "balanced" quote....oddly thin-skinned.

Okay, I fail to see how that changes anything I posted.



I've been on defense, remember I had those goons on ignore for months. Then I decided I'd stand up to them and it's gone downhill from there. I appreciate that you are trying to be fair, but in the stark light of day, it's not just females these guys are running off, and you know it.



See above, it ain't just women, although the women on this board have had to put up with tiresome sexual "mocking." Problem is, if they dare dish up the same, we get deleted and reminding of it for weeks afterward. It's a matter of proportion. I'm just saying that there is no reason for that type of comment to be "OK."

It isn't. If I can't do it, why can Brt and his cronies get away with it. The double-standard stinks.



She also complained about the goon squad ganging up and making inappropriate comments. BTW, It IS getting to be a smaal board. I think some rethinking may be in order here.



I play according to how I'm treated, or on how I feel about an issue, just like everyone else. I think I should be treated just like everyone else and my sex life and gender should be off-limits. Just like everyone else.

I'm allowed to stand up for myself, if you read the exchange, I'm not the troll here. I'll put them back on ignore and just let the rest of you deal, with the inane and stupid flurry of sophomoric smut that will inevitably follow my every post. How's that?

Ignore is definitely the best plan.

And as to leaving I would never give those morons the satisfaction. Let them play with each other in their usual circle-jerk back-patting fashion and eventually they will get sick of it and leave. Or something.

Or let them play with me.

:For Bee


Everyone else plays according to the way they're treated too. You just only see it when it goes against you or your friends. I've been ganged up on and gooned as well.

Always ended up getting called a crybaby on the old C-Span board where it was three to one lefties.

Just another case of whose ox is gored.

You lefties are the ones with the constant back patting.

People can only run off, they can't GET run off.

No. It's a case of what is appropriate and what's not.

As to who's ox is getting gored, I hear that. DU has just as many women as men. So does TPM, the Atlantic and NPR.

I know you get ganged up on, that's why you over compensate. Nevermind, as I said, I won't stick up for myself anymore. I'll just leave them on ignore.

That will come as a shock to Katz. He tends to brag about "running people off."

He almost got run off too, or don't you remember. I've been threatened with quitting by more than just lefties.



And your version of appropriate isn't going to be everyone elses. davis and his FOADs, Miz and his F*CK Repuslicans, Judy and her passive aggressive personal attacks, nomarchy gets his share in.



Yes, some places are designed to get certain people with certain views in, not just discuss politics. I said from the beginning invite more of what you want, even from places that are mostly lefties and work to keep it that way. DU is proud of having a limited viewpoint, maybe some might want to have their positions tested.

Us lefties? Just who do I pat on the back?