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SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 18 2004, 09:23 PM)
Who the hell doesn't know that this place is full of shithead dogmatic paritsans?
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Yikes!

The yenta nerd chatroom revealed. rolleyes.gif
Bart Katz
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Nov 18 2004, 08:24 PM)
Yikes!

The yenta nerd chatroom revealed.  rolleyes.gif
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Nerd city. laugh.gif
lil bart
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Nov 18 2004, 06:10 PM)
Well, I am glad I waited to say this:

I don't give a flying fark if your tender sensibilities are offended.
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If you had asked me if I thought you gave a flying whatever, I would have gotten the answer right.

Nevertheless, it is offensive and after the first few (or many) times I mentioned it only now.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (lil bart @ Nov 18 2004, 08:31 PM)
If you had asked me if I thought you gave a flying whatever, I would have gotten the answer right.

Nevertheless, it is offensive and after the first few (or many) times I mentioned it only now.
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Personally, I have seen plenty of things I would post on the IS300 board, that I wouldn't post here. Even there, one can get into trouble if they don't put a NWS warning on the entire thread. A certain amount of descretion must be kept in mind.
davis¹³
So the thread about that weasel DeLay turns into a ****fest.

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davis¹³
I was just promoted to Colonel.
Bart Katz
It's your thread davis. Handle it.
Repub_Bub
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Nov 19 2004, 03:12 AM)
I was just promoted to Colonel.
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Always wondered how you measured success.
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Nov 18 2004, 10:12 PM)
I was just promoted to Colonel.
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Congrats!
davis¹³
It's better than being a single-cell organism.
davis¹³
Group: Members
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4,159 posts? wow
Bart Katz
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Nov 18 2004, 09:26 PM)
Group: Members
Posts: 4,159
Joined: 24-September 04
Member No.: 9

4,159 posts? wow
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That means you report to me, Col Davis.
davis¹³
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Col Davis.



sounds like a fine southern gentleman.
lil bart
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 18 2004, 07:27 PM)
That means you report to me, Col Davis.
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Tell him to iron your shirts, Bart. It's his damn department anyway.
davis¹³
Joined: 24-September 04
Member No.: 9




Joined: 24-September 04
Member No.: 11
Bart Katz
Just call him Jeff.
davis¹³
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Tell him to iron your shirts, Bart. It's his damn department anyway.



gasp!!



well I never. No, seriously, I never.
lil bart
QUOTE (davis¹³ @ Nov 18 2004, 07:33 PM)
gasp!!
well I never. No, seriously, I never.
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Poopoo.

I can't believe I'm actually going to have to teach the Minister of Irony & Vice how to iron.
Nomarchy
QUOTE (lil bart @ Nov 18 2004, 07:31 PM)
If you had asked me if I thought you gave a flying whatever, I would have gotten the answer right.

Nevertheless, it is offensive and after the first few (or many) times I mentioned it only now.
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Listen, when it comes to bart, I don't care whose sensibilities are offended. In addition, the way a.v. has been "behaving" lately, the same goes when I respond to him.

You've made your point. If you think I am not going to post the "finger" again in response to incredibly insulting comments by the two "brothers" on account of your sensibilities then I'd advise you not to hold your breath.
Bart Katz
Art.
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Nov 18 2004, 09:07 PM)
Listen, when it comes to bart, I don't care whose sensibilities are offended. In addition, the way a.v. has been "behaving" lately, the same goes when I respond to him.

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What do you want from me? Agreement? I don't use a tenth of the profanity you do. Don't give people the finger. Sure, I reliate in kind. That seems fair to me.
lil bart
Nomarchy
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Nov 18 2004, 09:14 PM)
What do you want from me? Agreement? I don't use a tenth of the profanity you do. Don't give people the finger. Sure, I reliate in kind. That seems fair to me.
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What? YOU retaliate to my finger? Are you on crack?

Who was the a-hole that said that he didn't believe that I support my country? Who is the a-hole who's been accusing me left and right of being a supporter and defender of mass murderers, thugs, suicide-bombing assholes?

To even claim that I want agreement!!!!!! How dare you? Do you think you can revise history as you please?

Stop calling me a traitor, start having real conversations with me as a distinct individual, quit using your usual generalizations and platitudes about lefties and the rest of your bulldoody and I won't give you the finger again.
Art.
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Nov 18 2004, 09:39 PM)
What? YOU retaliate to my finger? Are you on crack?

Who was the asshole that said that he didn't believe that I support my country? Who is the asshole who's been accusing me left and right of being a supporter and defender of mass murderers, thugs, suicide-bombing assholes?

To even claim that I want agreement!!!!!! How dare you? Do you think you can revise history as you please?

Stop calling me a traitor, start having real conversations with me as a distinct individual, quit using your usual generalizations and platitudes about lefties and the rest of your bulldoody and I won't give you the finger again.
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Your posts speak for themselves. It isn't a personal attack like calling you a @$#% or $#@%^. When you want to have personal debates I'm always willing. When you want to rant I'm ready to rant right back. When you call me a fascist and the complain about "Who is the asshole who's been accusing me left and right of being a supporter and defender of mass murderers, thugs, suicide-bombing assholes?" I find it laughable.

When you go on about crap about how it's no more Mr Nice Guy and you aren't going to go past minimum interaction with all Republicans what do you expect?
Nomarchy
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Nov 18 2004, 09:46 PM)
Your posts speak for themselves. It isn't a personal attack like calling you a @$#% or $#@%^. When you want to have personal debates I'm always willing. When you want to rant I'm ready to rant right back. When you call me a fascist and then complain about  "Who is the a-hole who's been accusing me left and right of being a supporter and defender of mass murderers, thugs, suicide-bombing assholes?" I find it laughable.

When  you go on about crap about how it's no more Mr Nice Guy and you aren't going to go past minimum interaction with all Republicans what do you expect?
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You did it again. You said I called you a fascist and then you retaliated. That is plainly NOT how it went down. The posts are there.

As for your last sentence, that is just pathetic. You're grasping at straws.

You're just not honest. And that's sad.
Art.
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Nov 18 2004, 09:55 PM)
You did it again. You said I called you a fascist and then you retaliated. That is plainly NOT how it went down. The posts are there.

As for your last sentence, that is just pathetic. You're grasping at straws.

You're just not honest. And that's sad.
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Sheesh. It's ongoing. There is no "how it went down". I'm not going to waste a lot of time saving Nazi and fascist references. It's just not worth it.

As for my last sentence it's what you said election night. Don't blame me.
davis¹³
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Who was the a-hole that said that he didn't believe that I support my country? Who is the a-hole who's been accusing me left and right of being a supporter and defender of mass murderers, thugs, suicide-bombing assholes?


You're with him or agin' him.

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To even claim that I want agreement!!!!!! How dare you? Do you think you can revise history as you please?



hmmmm.....

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Stop calling me a traitor, start having real conversations with me as a distinct individual, quit using your usual generalizations and platitudes about lefties and the rest of your bulldoody and I won't give you the finger again.


lol, I know how you feel. Traitor.


(sorry, I couldn't resist)

I'm running away now.

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davis¹³
sorry nom, I didn't mean it
davis¹³
no, wait ... Put that knife down!!

HEY!! Hey!!
Bart Katz
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Stop calling me a traitor, start having real conversations with me as a distinct individual, quit using your usual generalizations and platitudes about lefties and the rest of your bulldoody and I won't give you the finger again.


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Bart Katz
lil bart
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 18 2004, 09:14 PM)
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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Maybe it's just the interior decorator in me, but I don't think the little blue bold "It's hard to be humble" works under the huge green HA HAs. huh.gif
Nomarchy
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 18 2004, 10:14 PM)
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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Bart Katz
QUOTE (lil bart @ Nov 18 2004, 11:28 PM)
Maybe it's just the interior decorator in me, but I don't think the little blue bold "It's hard to be humble" works under the huge green HA HAs. huh.gif
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Oh well. Green as in gourd as mama used to say.
Ward
That's a cute pic, Reverend Nomarchy. Lil is right, ducks are funny in and of themselves.
Bart Katz
Nomarchy
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 18 2004, 10:56 PM)

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Bart Katz
Nomarchy
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 18 2004, 11:18 PM)

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Well, if anyone's going to FUKITOL with Vodka, Grey Goose is certainly an upscale way to go. That's some good poopoo . . .
davis¹³
Having picked up a handful of seats in this month's election, House Republicans seem to think they have a mandate to eradicate Congressional ethics standards.

On Tuesday, House Republicans unanimously elected Tom DeLay to serve another term as House majority leader, despite his unsavory record when it comes to abiding by accepted Congressional standards of conduct. He received two separate bipartisan rebukes from the normally timid ethics committee this fall.

Just in case Mr. DeLay gets into more trouble, G.O.P. lawmakers have followed up by repealing their wise party rule that barred indicted members from holding leadership positions. Only a handful of Republicans had the moral compass to object.

The Republican conference's worry about Mr. DeLay's relationship with the forces of justice stems from the same events that nailed down his current popularity. He muscled an egregiously partisan redistricting plan into Texas, and that helped Republican candidates pick up five Congressional seats there.

It is far from certain that Mr. DeLay will be charged with a crime in connection with the redistricting. During that effort, he strong-armed federal authorities into joining a search for Democratic state legislators who had left Texas to keep the plan from coming to a vote. But Mr. DeLay is plainly worried. Three of his aides were recently indicted on charges that they illegally laundered campaign money to help Texas Republicans, and prosecutors are said to be scrutinizing his own actions.

The Republicans also seem bent on reining in the ethics committee for having had the temerity to rebuke Mr. DeLay for some of his more outrageous conduct. The party's Rules Committee chairman, David Dreier, recently sent a letter to House members signaling that he plans to make it even harder than it already is for members to file an ethics complaint, and for outside groups to be heard in the process. Rumors also abound that come January, when the next Congress is seated, all five Republican members of the ethics committee, including its current chairman, Representative Joel Hefley, may be replaced.

The Republicans originally adopted the rule requiring indicted G.O.P. leaders to step down from their posts during the 1990's. At the time, the party was trying to demonstrate that it had firmer ethical standards than the Democrats, who then held the majority in the House.

Now it will be left up to party insiders on the Republican Steering Committee to recommend on a case-by-case basis whether a party leader should step aside after a state or federal felony indictment. The old era is clearly over, as are any doubts that the Republican House leadership has lost interest in the high moral ground now that it has further consolidated its power.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/19/opinion/19fri1.html
JudyFlag
Disclosure Rules May Be Eased
November 17, 2004
Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON -- Citing national security concerns, some Republican members of Congress are trying to limit the personal financial information that top federal officials must disclose.

Tucked within the House's 497-page version of the "9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act" is a provision to repeal the requirement that senior-level officials report their personal financial assets valued at more than $2.5 million. It also would end the practice of disclosing the dates of stock transactions.

The proposal to limit financial disclosures initially covered only top-level intelligence officials. It was recently expanded to include all executive branch officials, according to a draft version of the bill.

Both the House and Senate have passed versions of legislation to overhaul the nation's intelligence community, based on the recommendations of the commission that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks. A conference committee is trying to come up with a final draft of the legislation.

The new disclosure provision was included during the conference committee negotiations. "They're burying it in a large bill that is very controversial on other issues, so no one is going to pay any attention to this," said Joan Claybrook, president of Public Citizen, a Washington-based government watchdog group.

The new disclosure policies would make it harder to detect when officials have personal financial stakes in matters before them, watchdog groups say. The current rules require officials to list the value of their assets in categories.


In praising passage of the House version of the bill last month, Rep. Thomas M. Davis, R-Va., said that streamlining the financial disclosure rules for top members of the intelligence community would improve the presidential appointments process and help attract candidates who might not otherwise apply.

"Financial disclosure requirements are supposed to protect against conflict-of-interest concerns. But they have become proxy statements for a nominee's net worth, with more detail than necessary," said Davis, chairman of the House Government Reform Committee.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Nov 19 2004, 01:17 AM)
Well, if anyone's going to FUKITOL with Vodka, Grey Goose is certainly an upscale way to go. That's some good poopoo . . .
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Too much of that stuff could cook your goose.
SpaceCowboy
The Ethics committee report on Tom Delay is coming up next on c-span, as if anyone cares.
Repub_Bub
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Nov 19 2004, 08:18 PM)
The Ethics committee report on Tom Delay is coming up next on c-span, as if anyone cares.
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I'll wait for the board filter....but thanks anyway. smile.gif
patheticJT
QUOTE (lil bart @ Nov 17 2004, 05:56 PM)
It's appropriate that you started this thread, davey-do, because the entire brouhaha (and it should be one) belongs to the Ministry of Irony & Vice. Of course they should establish special rules for DeLay, just like he established special redistricting to bolster the House Majority.

Can I borrow JT's word?
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Itll cost you lil bart biggrin.gif
patheticJT
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Nov 18 2004, 03:25 PM)
Oh, shut the fark up! Kofi Annan is not a crook, and there is no Oil-for-Food scandal. EVERYTHING that went on during that period was done with the full knowledge of the Security Council and its approval. Both we and the U.K. are permanent members thereof.

You dumbfarks . . . defending DeLay . . .
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SpaceCowboy
It was fun to hear Delay whine about the “politics of personal destruction”.
davis¹³
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It was fun to hear Delay whine about the “politics of personal destruction”.


Nooo. Surely you jest.
davis¹³
Coddling Tom DeLay
November 18, 2004

THE HOUSE majority leader, Tom DeLay, who was cited by the House Ethics Committee for three violations this year and another in 1999, was rewarded yesterday by his fellow Republicans with a rules change that will allow him to keep his leadership position even if he is charged with a serious crime.

This shameful action, coming only 15 days after an election supposedly dominated by pledges of morality and reform, casts a cloud over the House and adds evidence -- if any were needed -- that House Speaker Dennis Hastert, sitting in a chair once occupied by Henry Clay, Sam Rayburn, and Tip O'Neill, provides no more leadership than a cardboard cutout.

DeLay said -- apparently with a straight face -- that the change was needed to protect Republicans from the Democrats' "politics of personal destruction."

Representative Henry Bonilla, who led the effort to benefit his fellow Texan, said, "This takes the power away from any partisan crackpot district attorney who may want to indict" party leaders.

Bonilla might take care about name-calling. It is true that a local Texas prosecutor has already indicted three DeLay associates on charges of illegal fund-raising for the 2002 legislative elections in Texas -- elections that gave Republicans the majority they needed to redistrict the congressional delegation, producing a swing of five more GOP congressmen from Texas.

However, one of the four admonishments of DeLay from the House's own bipartisan Ethics Committee concerned that same redistricting. And the US Supreme Court has intervened, telling lower courts to take a close look at the charges relating to that redistricting.

It should be noted that people are innocent until proven guilty, but many institutions require people to give up leadership roles if indicted.

It is also worth noting that Bonilla's own seat was made more secure by the redistricting.

It is tempting to suggest that President Bush should use some of his treasured political capital to try to straighten out his party's leadership in the House. But, while the noxious odor does affect all Republicans in Washington, the solution must come from the House membership.

Very few members of the Republican conference stood up to object yesterday, and Hastert, of course, did not insist on a vote. For now, DeLay's fund-raising prowess and his success in adding a margin of comfort to the GOP majority in the House on Nov. 2 have been valued more highly by his colleagues than the damage done by his one-man ethical infestation. But when an institution like the House loses public confidence, each member is damaged. Eventually they will have to fumigate.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial...ling_tom_delay/
Bart Katz
Davis, I think your avatar is stuck.
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