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Bart Katz
QUOTE(Bee @ Jan 9 2005, 01:36 PM)
People that point out the obvious are never very popular.

Unfortunately they are also necessary when a large chunk of the population refuses to recognize the obvious

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Go davis, go!
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This would also possibly explain your condition as well.
Human Ills
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Jan 9 2005, 11:44 AM)
Crazed and glazed can sometimes be mistake for passionate.
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aw Barto, you missed my funny. It was right clever, it was. Should I have used the choice application of italics? Dammit, I knew I should have used the choice application of italics!
davis¹³
QUOTE(lil bart @ Jan 9 2005, 12:11 PM)
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ya gotta admit that's funny, davey-do.
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I think not.


Hey barto, shove it.

If you're a genuine, honest to god Christian, I'm a George Bush lover.

You guys are twisted beyond belief.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(Human Ills @ Jan 9 2005, 01:47 PM)
aw Barto, you missed my funny. It was right clever, it was. Should I have used the choice application of italics? Dammit, I knew I should have used the choice application of italics!
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I caught hell for using the word jerk in combination with the word circle, just the other day.
Human Ills
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Jan 9 2005, 11:48 AM)
I think not.
Hey barto, shove it.

If you're a genuine, honest to god Christian, I'm a George Bush lover.

You guys are twisted beyond belief.
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That's another thing. Using my posts to bash Christians everywhere is just plain disingenuous. When have I ever posted that I'm a practicing Christian?
Bart Katz
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Jan 9 2005, 01:48 PM)
I think not.
Hey barto, shove it.

If you're a genuine, honest to god Christian, I'm a George Bush lover.

You guys are twisted beyond belief.
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Put a sock in it, Jack.
Human Ills
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Jan 9 2005, 11:50 AM)
I caught hell for using the word jerk in combination with the word circle, just the other day.
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See? now I caught that exceedingly clever entendre'
Bart Katz
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Jan 9 2005, 01:48 PM)
I think not.
Hey barto, shove it.

If you're a genuine, honest to god Christian, I'm a George Bush lover.

You guys are twisted beyond belief.
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There is no "small g" God in my relgion, biotch.
davis¹³
QUOTE(Human Ills @ Jan 9 2005, 12:11 PM)
Oh never! He's awful persuasive. Why, when I started here I thought he was passionate, but he's convinced me he's just a jerk.
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You have a lot of room to talk. Phony self righteousness is ugly and you have way more than your share.


Abortion!!! WAAAAAA!!!! WAAAAAA!!!!! (but we'll readily kill men women and children in the name of freedom, imperial democracy and of all things JESUS!!!)

Hey bud, how about a minimum of consistency from you hypocrites?

As you said, yesterday was it?, they are no longer collateral damage, they are sympathisers, THEY AREN'T WORTH IT.

ps, go fuck yourself
davis¹³
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Jan 9 2005, 01:50 PM)
Put a sock in it, Jack.
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shove it in your ass hypocrite. How about some more of that special old time southern redneck compassion?
Bart Katz
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Jan 9 2005, 01:57 PM)
shove it in your ass hypocrite. How about some more of that special old time southern redneck compassion?
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You one sic SOB, buddy. Maybe if you go out and come back in again. Might help. Might not.
davis¹³
I am not playing your bullshit phony religion game anymore.

So I hear your "moral" so called Christian president and his radical rightwing allies are bringing back the central American style assassination death squads.

How many times have I said the Iraqi thing is Iran/Contra x 1000?

There's your Republican morals for you. Torture and kill in the name of freedom. A bunch of sick, sick people.

Immoral moralists. Great, just what our country needs.
Bee
Oh boy.

This grade school taunting thang suuure put davis in his place.


Not.

It's Sunday, kindergarten isn't until tomorrow. This school-age crap is lame to the point of idiocy.

Instead of always getting personal, try addressing his arguments. If you can, or are personal insults all you have?
Bart Katz
Davis is just another Godless bastard that tries to tell us Christians how to practice our relgion. These people can be found under rocks, and in stagnant water, most anywhere. I just say fuckem and move on.
davis¹³
QUOTE(Bee @ Jan 9 2005, 02:06 PM)
Oh boy.

This grade school taunting thang suuure put davis in his place.
Not.

It's Sunday, kindergarten isn't until tomorrow. This school-age crap is lame to the point of idiocy.

Instead of always getting personal, try addressing his arguments. If you can, or are personal insults all you have?
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Don't count on it. They learned from Rush.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Jan 9 2005, 02:09 PM)
Don't count on it. They learned from Rush.
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I see you got your application in to the Bee fan club. When's the intiation?
Human Ills
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Jan 9 2005, 11:56 AM)
You have a lot of room to talk. Phony self righteousness is ugly and you have way more than your share.
Abortion!!! WAAAAAA!!!! WAAAAAA!!!!! (but we'll readily kill men women and children in the name of freedom, imperial democracy and of all things JESUS!!!)

Hey bud, how about a minimum of consistency from you hypocrites?

As you said, yesterday was it?, they are no longer collateral damage, they are sympathisers, THEY AREN'T WORTH IT.

ps, go fuck yourself
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Yeah? Say it to my face you lil piss-ant bitch. You wouldn't even make a decent snack.
Bee
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Jan 9 2005, 03:14 PM)
I see you got your application in to the Bee fan club.  When's the intiation?
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Typical.

Have fun in Kindergarten class.

I'll come back when the adults show up

toodles.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(Bee @ Jan 9 2005, 02:15 PM)
Typical.

Have fun in Kindergarten class.

I'll come back when the adults show up

toodles.
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I see you're doing the remedial classes prior to being eligible for flaming 101. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Human Ills
QUOTE(Bee @ Jan 9 2005, 12:15 PM)
Typical.

Have fun in Kindergarten class.

I'll come back when the adults show up

toodles.
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buh bye now.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(Human Ills @ Jan 9 2005, 02:16 PM)
She was all over the C-Span boards telling under what a hot fuc she is, maybe that's the initiation.
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That certainly doesn't sound very feminazi like. sad.gif
davis¹³
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Jan 9 2005, 02:08 PM)
Davis is just another Godless bastard that tries to tell us Christians how to practice our relgion.  These people can be found under rocks, and in stagnant water, most anywhere.  I just say fuckem and move on.
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There's some of that old time religion!!!

Way to go!! I knew I could count on some of that old fashioned redneck, REAL, GENUINE southern Christian compassion!!! Zell fucking Miller style!!!!


Look ma, I'm a godless bastard!!

Now I'm reduced to the level of pond scum, an under the rock critter, marginalized because I'm no longer a follower of Jesus. I say we ship em all to Iraq on the front line. They'd find god then, whoops!!! they'd find God then!!

moron
Bart Katz
Don't worry Davis, your queen Bee will protect and defend her drone.
davis¹³
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Yeah? Say it to my face you lil piss-ant bitch. You wouldn't even make a decent snack.



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I'm skeert.

About right. Tell me more about Republican "values", bee-atch.
Human Ills
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Jan 9 2005, 12:23 PM)
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I'm skeert.

About right. Tell me more about Republican "values", bee-atch.
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You would be scared. Takes a big man to tell someone to fuck-off online.
That's why I don't do it.
Repub_Bub
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QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Jan 9 2005, 08:17 PM)
Look ma, I'm a godless bastard!!....I am not playing your bullshit phony religion game anymore.
lil bart
QUOTE(Human Ills @ Jan 9 2005, 12:16 PM)

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Delete this, Millness, please. It does NOT need to be drug up.

Thank you.
Human Ills
QUOTE(lil bart @ Jan 9 2005, 01:52 PM)
Delete this, Millness, please. It does NOT need to be drug up. 

Thank you.
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You're right. sorry.
Bee
That was me HI and all.

I'll put HI and Bart on ignore all, so that I don't have to react to 2 year old lies, and spare the board any more unpleasantness and inanity. I apologize for my part in responding to it.

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I would think that Bart and his sycophants history of scaring off posters and closing down boards would give us all pause. The ignore feature might save this one. I'm sure they'll pick on the next female moderate or liberal when they are done with their 'fun' with me.

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Someone else can deal with it.
Bee
QUOTE(G.G. @ Jan 9 2005, 08:14 PM)
Of course.  There aren't very many left on our side but as we all leave, so goes the natural evolution of this board.  It's getting less active here but I don't think it is because of the opposing povs rather the lack of humor and fun.

Once we get so personal and nasty, it is hard to get back to being civil.
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Well, I apologize for my part.


Word, GG.

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davis¹³
Morals? Values? Here's your damned morals for you rightwingers. Contract for America? Bullshit to fool some of the voters. All they wanted was their own turn at the hog trough. Lying SOBs.


GOP Leaders Tighten Their Grip on House

By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, January 9, 2005; Page A05

House Republican leaders moved swiftly last week to tighten and centralize control of the new Congress by replacing uncooperative committee chairmen and changing the chamber's rules to deter ethics investigations of leaders.

The Republicans expanded their majority by only three seats in the Nov. 2 election, yet party leaders have been emboldened by GOP domination of all branches of government and appear determined to squelch dissent in their own ranks and to freeze Democrats out of key decisions.

Ethics Committee Chairman Rep. Joel Hefley (R-Colo.), who supported three admonishments of Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), is viewed by the GOP as too independent. (Joe Marquette -- AP)


Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) moved to force out the ethics committee chairman, Rep. Joel Hefley (R-Colo.), who supported three formal admonishments of Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) last year, and ousted the chairman of the Veterans Affairs Committee for failing to toe the party line on spending. The GOP leaders also rammed through a change in House rules to make it more difficult in the future to file an ethics complaint against DeLay or other members.

What a total asshole. Faith-based people would not act like tyrannical dictators. These jerks are lowlife scumbags, not fine upstanding, god fearing men of faith. 'Bout time some of you idiots woke up and smelled the coffee.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...4-2005Jan8.html
davis¹³
QUOTE(G.G. @ Jan 9 2005, 07:25 PM)
I apologize as well.  I guess that is directed to Artie. 

The nature of this beast is debate and opposition, disagreement but yelling at each other consistantly, the name calling and disrespect takes this to another level.

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I am not playing their little fake self-righteousness game anymore. I will call it how I see it. I will never surrender. NEVER. These people act like the new American Religious/Fascists and I am sick of it.

Values my ass.
Art.
"Of course. There aren't very many left on our side but as we all leave, so goes the natural evolution of this board."


People come and go as they will. I keep pretty close track of the number of posts and it's fairly steady. What is nasty is in the eye of the beholder. Someone will rant and scream and when someone on the other "side" retaliates allies will come along and blame it on the retaliator, not the initiator. It works both ways.

I think the "sides" are pretty even, but certainly not what the Dems are used to from C-Span. I try not to take anything too personal, and compartmentalize between boards. If Nomarchy tells me to FOAD on Iraq, I try not to take the running battle to a board that doesn't directly relate. It isn't prefect, but it's better than having a constant running personal battle across the site.

Everyone has their own personal styles and we do have our battles, but I've seen plenty worse across the net. Especially on boards discussing things like politics, abortion and religion. My original hope was to discuss things BESIDES political differences, but those topics seem to die from lack of interest. The GAPS has almost a hundred members and barely gets 50 posts a day across a LOT more topics.


This board is hardly dying out. But it belongs to US, and if WE want to improve things it requires some effort and concensus.
Bee
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Jan 9 2005, 08:45 PM)
"Of course. There aren't very many left on our side but as we all leave, so goes the natural evolution of this board."
People come and go as they will. I keep pretty close track of the number of posts and it's fairly  steady. What is nasty is in the eye of the beholder.  Someone will rant and scream and when someone on the other "side" retaliates allies will come along and blame it on the retaliator, not the initiator. It works both ways.

I think the "sides" are pretty even, but certainly not what the Dems are used to from C-Span. I try not to take anything too personal, and compartmentalize between boards. If Nomarchy tells me to FOAD on Iraq, I try not to take the running battle to a board that doesn't directly relate. It isn't prefect, but it's better than having a constant  running personal battle across the site.

Everyone has their own personal styles and we do have our battles, but I've seen plenty worse across the net. Especially on boards discussing things like politics, abortion and religion. My original hope was to discuss things BESIDES political differences, but those topics seem to die from lack of interest. The GAPS has almost a hundred members and barely gets 50 posts a day across a LOT more topics.
This board is hardly dying out. But it belongs to US, and if WE want to improve things it requires some effort and concensus.
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Someone else can deal with it

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Art.
QUOTE(G.G. @ Jan 9 2005, 07:14 PM)
The sides are not even and although you continue to discuss how people are always picking on you, I don't see it.
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So Bee, Hu, You, Nomarchy, Space, davis, ward, miz, sometimes Rocco, often bart(won't count judyflag, though she is too far left for you, or lioness who hasn't been around) aren't enough to attack Bush and Republicans? I don't know what you want. 144 posts in a row from the left like on C-Span?

I try not to complain about "picking on me" anymore because there is no CM bouncing people from one side to make the balance come out a certain way. THAT is what I hated about C-Span, the capricious nature of the management. This is what it is. I invited everyone, beyond that if people have complaints they can be part of the problem, or part of the solution. Their choice.
Art.
QUOTE(G.G. @ Jan 9 2005, 07:33 PM)
So, how many of these people are Democrats?  Most of them often complain if you even remotely refer to them as such.
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I complained about being called repeatedly a fascist repuslican Christian. Didn't see you say anything then. I'm not gonna argue about it because nothing short of having their own way is good enough for some people.
lil bart
QUOTE(Guest @ Jan 9 2005, 04:28 PM)
Yes, despite her efforts to save you embarrassment, you have shown yourself to be an utterly humorless prude.

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Truthfully, I did it to spare you -- and then I guess all of us. Arturobud, I wish you would delete all these. They are kind of just a little too ugly. sad.gif
Arturo_Vandelay
Ok, I just deleted the F word on this page without refering to who posted it(including my own). To tell you the truth I didn't follow that conversation so I'm not sure who did what to who.
lil bart
Grazie. It is for the best for all. There's personal, and then there's just way too personal.
Human Ills
QUOTE(G.G. @ Jan 9 2005, 06:33 PM)
So, how many of these people are Democrats?  Most of them often complain if you even remotely refer to them as such.
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I'd complain too, if somebody called me a democrat.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(Bee @ Jan 9 2005, 06:50 PM)
That was me HI and all.

I'll put HI and Bart on ignore all, so that I don't have to react to 2 year old lies, and spare the board any more unpleasantness and inanity. I apologize for my part in responding to it.

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I would think that Bart and his sycophants history of scaring off posters and closing down boards would give us all pause. The ignore feature might save this one. I'm sure they'll pick on the next female moderate or liberal when they are done with their 'fun' with me.

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Someone else can deal with it.
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That's a good idea, since your reactions suck anyway.
Human Ills
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Jan 9 2005, 08:51 PM)
That's a good idea, since your reactions suck  anyway.
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It's a fabulous idea.
lil bart
Is it just me, or is the animosity level particularly high today, or the last couple? rolleyes.gif

Cya'll tomorrow, when we're all playin' nice.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(lil bart @ Jan 9 2005, 11:00 PM)
Is it just me, or is the animosity level particularly high today, or the last couple?  rolleyes.gif

Cya'll tomorrow, when we're all playin' nice.
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Not on my side. I'm just playing along with the queen of stingers.
Bart Katz
Now that the tsunami relief funds and the Ohio River funds are handled, Katz, LLC will be collecting donations for money to hire a clique for Bee. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Repub_Bub
QUOTE(lil bart @ Jan 10 2005, 05:00 AM)
Is it just me, or is the animosity level particularly high today, or the last couple?  rolleyes.gif

Cya'll tomorrow, when we're all playin' nice.
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I must be missing something....what was so especially bad about today, as compared to any other day?
davis¹³
Coming from you three amigos, Bee should wear that criticism as a badge of honor.

davis¹³
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Jan 10 2005, 06:24 AM)
I must be missing something....what was so especially bad about today, as compared to any other day?
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Yeah, you are missing something alright, a concience.
SpaceCowboy
Payola for propaganda:

QUOTE
TV Host Says U.S. Paid Him to Back Policy
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Published: January 8, 2005

Armstrong Williams, a prominent conservative commentator who was a protégé of Senator Strom Thurmond and Justice Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court, acknowledged yesterday that he was paid $240,000 by the Department of Education to promote its initiatives on his syndicated television program and to other African-Americans in the news media.

The disclosure of the payment set off a storm of criticism from Democrats over the Bush administration's spending to promote its policies to the public. According to a copy of the contract provided by the department yesterday, Mr. Williams, who also runs a small public relations firm and until yesterday wrote a syndicated newspaper column, was required to broadcast two one-minute advertisements in which Education Secretary Rod Paige extolled the merits of its national standards program, No Child Left Behind.

But the arrangement, which started in late 2003 and was first reported yesterday by USA Today, also stipulated that a public relations firm hired by the department would "arrange for Mr. Williams to regularly comment on N.C.L.B. during the course of his broadcasts," that "Secretary Paige and other department officials shall have the option of appearing from time to time as studio guests," and that "Mr. Williams shall utilize his long-term working relationships with 'America's Black Forum' " - an African-American news program - "to encourage the producers to periodically address the No Child Left Behind Act."

Mr. Williams, 45, apologized yesterday for blurring his roles as an independent commentator and a paid promoter. "This is a great lesson to me," he told Paul Begala of CNN, who himself has an off-air job as a paid Democratic political consultant but discloses both roles.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/08/national/08education.html



davis¹³
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"Mr. Williams, 45, apologized yesterday for blurring his roles as an independent commentator and a paid promoter. "This is a great lesson to me," he told Paul Begala of CNN, who himself has an off-air job as a paid Democratic political consultant but discloses both roles."



A lesson on how to profit from the current administration maybe. Like most Republicans of today, (even the Contract for America crowd) they are cashing in, BIG TIME.


We paid him $240,000 of taxpayer dollars to champion a scam?

Sounds like a scam. A scam to scam a scam.
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