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SpaceCowboy
I hope that brings you relief. Good Luck.
CharlieRay
Aye.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Lord_Proprietor @ Apr 17 2008, 02:55 PM) *
The TENS unit (Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve stimulation), was OKed by the pacemaker techs. yesterday and I started using it last night. The instructions indicate that time and use will differ but normally improvement begins to show in two or three weeks - I'll try to keep you posted.


I asked my mom about my dad's neuropathy. I guess he tried something like that TENS unit, but quit right before he had neck surgery. The surgery seems to have fixed the major problems, now he's working on his kidneys. Keep us posted, good luck.
BrooklynBill
The miracle berry
By Adam Fowler


Imagine an extract from a berry that would make sour things taste sweet and help you lose weight. Then imagine not being allowed to take it.
T
he world is getting fatter. One billion people are overweight, and 300 million of those are clinically obese.

The search is always on for replacements for those things that, eaten in excess, make us obese - fatty and sugary foods. There is no miracle pill that can replace either. Nearly four decades ago one man came close to providing a tablet that could reduce our love of sugar. In the 1960s, Robert Harvey, a biomedical postgraduate student, encountered the miracle berry, a fruit from west Africa which turns sour tastes to sweet.

"You can eat a berry and then bite into a lemon," says Harvey. "It becomes not only sweeter, but it will be the best lemon you've tasted in your life."

More importantly, this "miracle" can be used to manufacture sweet tasting foods without sugar or sweeteners, which have always been plagued by an after-taste.

Spotting the potential health benefits, and the healthy profits, that the miracle berry promised, Harvey founded the Miralin Company to grow the berry in Jamaica and Puerto Rico, extract its active ingredient in laboratories in Hudson, Massachusetts, and market it across the United States. At first, Harvey aimed his products at diabetics.

"In market testing, diabetics thought our product, as the name implies, was a miracle."

But Harvey's sweet dream of making the world healthier came to an abrupt end. On the eve of the launch in 1974, the US Food and Drugs Administration unexpectedly turned against the product.

MIRACLE BERRY
- Also known as "miracle fruit" or Synsepalum dulcificum
- Grown in Africa, first documented in 18th Century
- Acts on the sour receptors of the tongue, turning sour tastes sweet
- Effect lasts 30 mins - two hours
- Effect is destroyed in hot foods - eg coffee and baked foods
- Renders an accompanying dry white wine sickly sweet

Legal advice and contact with the FDA had led Harvey to believe that the extract from the berry would be allowed under the classification "generally recognised as safe". Having been eaten before meals for centuries in west Africa, without anecdotal reports of problems, it could be assumed not to be harmful.

But the FDA decided it would be considered as an additive which required several years more testing. In the poor economic climate of 1974, this could not be funded and the company folded.

"I was in shock," says Harvey. "We were on very good terms with the FDA and enjoyed their full support. There was no sign of any problem. Without any opportunity to know what the concern was and who raised it, and to respond to it - they just banned the product."

He remembers a number of strange events leading up to the FDA's decision, beginning immediately after one particular market research test.

His investors, including Reynolds Metals, Barclays and Prudential, had put up big money. They were looking for big returns.

"From the beginning my interest was in the diabetic market but my backers wanted to put double zeros after the numbers we were projecting."

So, in the summer of 1974, miracle berry ice lollies, in four different flavours, were compared to similar, sugar-sweetened versions by schoolchildren in Boston. The berry won every time.

Don Emery, then vice president of the Miralin company, recalls the excitement.

"If we had got beyond the diabetic market we could have been a multi-billion dollar company. We'd have displaced maybe millions of tons of sugar and lots of artificial sweeteners as well."

A few weeks later, things turned sour. A car was spotted driving back and forwards past Miralin's offices, slowing down as someone took photographs of the building. Then, late one night, Harvey was followed as he drove home.

"I sped up, then he sped up. I pulled into this dirt access road and turned off my lights and the other car went past the end of the road at a very high speed. Clearly I was being monitored."

Sugar denial

Finally, at the end of that summer, Harvey and Emery arrived back at the office after dinner to find they were being burgled. The burglars escaped and were never found, but the main FDA file was left lying open on the floor.

A few weeks later the FDA, which had previously been very supportive, wrote to Miralin, effectively banning its product. No co-incidence, according to Don Emery.

"I honestly believe that we were done in by some industrial interest that did not want to see us survive because we were a threat. Somebody influenced somebody in the FDA to cause the regulatory action that was taken against us."

The Sugar Association, the trade body representing "Big Sugar" in the US, declined to be interviewed on the subject but flatly denied that the industry had exerted any influence over the FDA.

The Calorie Control Council, which represents artificial sweetener manufacturers in the US, has failed to respond to questions on the issue.

The Food and Drugs Administration also refused to be interviewed and has indicated that a Freedom of Information (FOI) legislation request to look at the relevant FDA files will not be considered for a year. Robert Harvey had requested the same files over 30 years ago.

"We got back the most redacted information I've ever seen from FOI. Everything was blacked out. There would have been material in the file that would have embarrassed the FDA, I believe."

Faced with this silence, it's virtually impossible to assess what actually happened to prevent the miracle berry's progress to a sugar-free market.

But one thing is certain, it never got the chance to prove whether it really would have provided a miracle in our ever fattening world. And for Robert Harvey, that's the biggest shame of all.

"It was a big loss not only for my employees and shareholders but, even more importantly, for diabetics and other people with special dietary needs. It was tragic."

But all hope is not lost for the berry's champions.

Today a firm called BioResources International is trying to produce freeze-dried miracle berry at a plant in New Jersey. Dieters will watch the outcome closely.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7367548.stm




Innocent
Discovery of HPV in male oral cancers leads to vaccination call

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There's growing evidence that the virus that causes cervical cancer in women is also linked to cancers in men, leading health professionals to call for an HPV vaccination program for boys.

Recent research found more than half of some oral cancers in men are associated with the human papilloma virus.

HPV is also know to cause genital warts in men.


When this vaccination was first made available there was a flurry of opposition to the cure from the religious right. This may invigorate that opposition again.


Arturo_Vandelay
Odd that not all of Canada is on the same page. Only five provinces.
Bart Katz
How provincial.
Innocent
Premature Ejaculation Finally Defined

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What's the definition of "premature ejaculation?" Glad you asked. There's never really been one, until now.

You need to last one minute to avoid the label, experts now say.

In short, here's the new definition: "A male sexual dysfunction characterized by ejaculation which always or nearly always occurs prior to or within about one minute of vaginal penetration; and, inability to delay ejaculation on all or nearly all vaginal penetrations; and, negative personal consequences, such as distress, bother, frustration and/or the avoidance of sexual intimacy."

The definition is also published in the Journal of Urology.
Innocent
9-year-old girl's twin is found inside her stomach

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ATHENS, Greece - A 9-year-old girl who went to hospital in central Greece suffering from stomach pains was found to be carrying her embryonic twin, doctors said Thursday.

Doctors at Larissa General Hospital examined the girl and surgically removed a growth they later discovered was an embryo more than two inches long.

Andreas Markou, head of the hospital's pediatric department, said the embryo was a formed fetus with a head, hair and eyes, but no brain or umbilical cord.

Markou said cases where one of a set of twins absorbs the other in the womb occurs in one of 500,000 live births.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Innocent @ May 15 2008, 04:22 PM) *


Good to find out how the other half lives.
Innocent
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 15 2008, 07:41 PM) *
Good to find out how the other half lives.


One minute seems awfully fast. Even several minutes seems awfully fast. Somehow I doubt this definition is going to help anyone. "Hey I lasted more than a minute therefore I'm not a premature ejaculator" probably isn't going to be a persuasive argument to your partner.
Nomarchy
QUOTE (Innocent @ May 15 2008, 05:18 PM) *
One minute seems awfully fast. Even several minutes seems awfully fast. Somehow I doubt this definition is going to help anyone. "Hey I lasted more than a minute therefore I'm not a premature ejaculator" probably isn't going to be a persuasive argument to your partner.



Technically speaking, physiologically, premature ejaculation only occurs if it takes place before penile entry into the vagina.

As you can see from the new 'definition', this is an attempt to define it for 'cataloguing' purposes and it includes 'negative affect' associated with its occurence.

Outside of the physiological limits, what is 'premature' or 'too mature' laugh.gif is socially and culturally specific.

Finally, I don't know what "helping anyone" has to do with the process of defining "conditions" medically. This is power/knowledge at its best.
Bart Katz
Yeah, I always thought premature was jizzing on the chicks leg before one even put it in.
Nomarchy
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ May 15 2008, 06:44 PM) *
Yeah, I always thought premature was jizzing on the chicks leg before one even put it in.



And that's "premature" by any definition. Unless one was jerking off in which case all bets are off.

laugh.gif laugh.gif
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ May 15 2008, 07:52 PM) *
And that's "premature" by any definition. Unless one was jerking off in which case all bets are off.

laugh.gif laugh.gif


I remember guys telling those stories on themselves early in there career of sexual escapades. laugh.gif

Excessive, for them, foreplay could be the culprit.
Innocent
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ May 15 2008, 09:14 PM) *
Finally, I don't know what "helping anyone" has to do with the process of defining "conditions" medically. This is power/knowledge at its best.


The article characterizes the intent thusly:

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"For something that has such a profound effect on men young and old, there needs to be a definitive measure to diagnose premature ejaculation," said Dr. Ira D. Sharlip, the study's main author. "The hope is that more people with these symptoms will understand this is an actual health condition and seek treatment. They no longer need to suffer in silence."


Dunno.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Innocent @ May 15 2008, 05:18 PM) *
"Hey I lasted more than a minute therefore I'm not a premature ejaculator" probably isn't going to be a persuasive argument to your partner.


Marketing is everything.
Bart Katz
Some people are happy to just get it up.

Arturo_Vandelay
And when he wants to last longer he just thinks about Hillary.
Bart Katz
Arturo_Vandelay
About the best pic of Hillary I've seen. How come both Hillary and Obama have rumors of gay affairs and not a word is mentioned, but McCain's supposed affair made the NYT?
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 15 2008, 10:29 PM) *
About the best pic of Hillary I've seen. How come both Hillary and Obama have rumors of gay affairs and not a word is mentioned, but McCain's supposed affair made the NYT?


The democrat machine has their ways.
Innocent
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Marketing is everything.


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Innocent
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ May 16 2008, 12:12 AM) *
Some people are happy to just get it up.



Or in his case, down.

wink.gif
Innocent
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 12:29 AM) *
About the best pic of Hillary I've seen. How come both Hillary and Obama have rumors of gay affairs and not a word is mentioned, but McCain's supposed affair made the NYT?


Someone claimed McCain had a gay affair?!?
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Innocent @ May 16 2008, 05:21 PM) *
Someone claimed McCain had a gay affair?!?


McCain and Hillary?
Innocent
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ May 16 2008, 07:27 PM) *
McCain and Hillary?


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Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Innocent @ May 16 2008, 04:21 PM) *
Someone claimed McCain had a gay affair?!?


Look for the relevant adjective in the sentence.

QUOTE
How come both Hillary and Obama have rumors of gay affairs and not a word is mentioned, but McCain's supposed affair made the NYT?
Arturo_Vandelay
Not to say that a gay affair is worse, but that only a possible McCain affair even made the news.
Bart Katz
Black love childs is the worst.
Nomarchy
Who gives a poop about rumors, anyway?
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ May 16 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Who gives a poop about rumors, anyway?


The NYT did in the McCain case.

For starters.
Innocent
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 08:02 PM) *
Look for the relevant adjective in the sentence.


QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 08:02 PM) *
Not to say that a gay affair is worse, but that only a possible McCain affair even made the news.


When you lumped everything together, referring to rumors of gay affairs, and then mentioned McCain without changing the context, I though to context remained consistent between the two halves of the sentence.

What the rumor WRT McCain's affair?
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Innocent @ May 16 2008, 05:12 PM) *
When you lumped everything together, referring to rumors of gay affairs, and then mentioned McCain without changing the context, I though to context remained consistent between the two halves of the sentence.

What the rumor WRT McCain's affair?


I can't help that the rumors of Hill and Barry were gay ones, nor that McCain's wasn't. Tried to write the sentence at least factually correct. I type poorly so I keep things short. (plus it's punchier that way)

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/society/damia...ccainrumour.htm


McCain rumour: bad news for the NYT
Posted by Damian Lanigan on 26 Feb 2008 at 08:58
Tags: Newspapers, New York Times, Blogs, Magazines, reporting, John McCain, truth, Bill Keller, Michael KinsleyMichael Kinsley in Slate writes brilliantly about the New York Times' tawdry little piece of yellow journalism last week. The penultimate paragraph is splendiferous, but you need to read the whole article to get its full effect. A bit from the first para will serve as an amuse bouche:

To be absolutely clear: The Times itself was not suggesting that there had been an affair or even that there had been the appearance of an affair. The Times was reporting that there was a time eight years ago when some people felt there might be the appearance of an affair, although others, apparently including McCain himself, apparently felt that there was no such appearance.

It might be regarded as undignified to kick a Gray Lady when she's down, but as the paper's own public editor had already given her a good roughing up Kinsley can be forgiven for having his fun.

The thing is, I sympathise with the Times. It has a valid claim as the best newspaper on the planet. For a start, the odd very public screw up notwithstanding, the stories within the Times are generally true. When I arrived in New York in 1999 this came as a shock to me: in British papers, the straight news stories are often highly editorialised, usually to make the 'news' more closely reflect the paper's opinion pages. The selection of what story to run and what emphasis to give it are governed by overt political agendas. The Times doesn't do that - or certainly not as much. Reading a newspaper that contains facts has a curious effect upon the reader: you start to trust it, and to hold its employees in high esteem. I used to buy the paper every day. If you do this you understand why Americans think Times loyalists are annoying: they are armed with all this information that's actually true. But unfortunately, loyalty can't easily survive the competition provided by the internet: as soon as I got broadband, the Times went on my bookmark list along with fifteen other papers, twenty magazines, untold blogs and so on. Since 2005, broadband penetration has nearly doubled in the US. Over the same period, the value of shares in the New York Times' holding company has dropped by 60 per cent. What's an ageing old girl to do? In this case, apply a bit of slap.

Nomarchy
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 05:07 PM) *
The NYT did in the McCain case.

For starters.



First of all, AS IF. You have this annoying habit of taking your mistaken and misleading interpretation of something as the TRUTH and then proceeding to assume it in your further rants.

Look at the NYT article again. If you're so sure it says what YOU SAY it says, then repost it in its entirety.

Secondly, WHO GIVES A FLYING fark WHAT THE NYT thinks is important?
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ May 16 2008, 05:20 PM) *
Secondly, WHO GIVES A FLYING fark WHAT THE NYT thinks is important?



Millions of people and the media that treats it as a paper of record.
Nomarchy
February 21, 2008The Long Run
For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk
By JIM RUTENBERG, MARILYN W. THOMPSON, DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and STEPHEN LABATONCorrection Appended

WASHINGTON — Early in Senator John McCain’s first run for the White House eight years ago, waves of anxiety swept through his small circle of advisers.

A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.

When news organizations reported that Mr. McCain had written letters to government regulators on behalf of the lobbyist’s client, the former campaign associates said, some aides feared for a time that attention would fall on her involvement.

Mr. McCain, 71, and the lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, 40, both say they never had a romantic relationship. But to his advisers, even the appearance of a close bond with a lobbyist whose clients often had business before the Senate committee Mr. McCain led threatened the story of redemption and rectitude that defined his political identity.

It had been just a decade since an official favor for a friend with regulatory problems had nearly ended Mr. McCain’s political career by ensnaring him in the Keating Five scandal. In the years that followed, he reinvented himself as the scourge of special interests, a crusader for stricter ethics and campaign finance rules, a man of honor chastened by a brush with shame.

But the concerns about Mr. McCain’s relationship with Ms. Iseman underscored an enduring paradox of his post-Keating career. Even as he has vowed to hold himself to the highest ethical standards, his confidence in his own integrity has sometimes seemed to blind him to potentially embarrassing conflicts of interest.

Mr. McCain promised, for example, never to fly directly from Washington to Phoenix, his hometown, to avoid the impression of self-interest because he sponsored a law that opened the route nearly a decade ago. But like other lawmakers, he often flew on the corporate jets of business executives seeking his support, including the media moguls Rupert Murdoch, Michael R. Bloomberg and Lowell W. Paxson, Ms. Iseman’s client. (Last year he voted to end the practice.)

Mr. McCain helped found a nonprofit group to promote his personal battle for tighter campaign finance rules. But he later resigned as its chairman after news reports disclosed that the group was tapping the same kinds of unlimited corporate contributions he opposed, including those from companies seeking his favor. He has criticized the cozy ties between lawmakers and lobbyists, but is relying on corporate lobbyists to donate their time running his presidential race and recently hired a lobbyist to run his Senate office.

“He is essentially an honorable person,” said William P. Cheshire, a friend of Mr. McCain who as editorial page editor of The Arizona Republic defended him during the Keating Five scandal. “But he can be imprudent.”

Mr. Cheshire added, “That imprudence or recklessness may be part of why he was not more astute about the risks he was running with this shady operator,” Charles Keating, whose ties to Mr. McCain and four other lawmakers tainted their reputations in the savings and loan debacle.

During his current campaign for the Republican presidential nomination, Mr. McCain has played down his attacks on the corrupting power of money in politics, aware that the stricter regulations he championed are unpopular in his party. When the Senate overhauled lobbying and ethics rules last year, Mr. McCain stayed in the background.

With his nomination this year all but certain, though, he is reminding voters again of his record of reform. His campaign has already begun comparing his credentials with those of Senator Barack Obama, a Democratic contender who has made lobbying and ethics rules a centerpiece of his own pitch to voters.

“I would very much like to think that I have never been a man whose favor can be bought,” Mr. McCain wrote about his Keating experience in his 2002 memoir, “Worth the Fighting For.” “From my earliest youth, I would have considered such a reputation to be the most shameful ignominy imaginable. Yet that is exactly how millions of Americans viewed me for a time, a time that I will forever consider one of the worst experiences of my life.”

A drive to expunge the stain on his reputation in time turned into a zeal to cleanse Washington as well. The episode taught him that “questions of honor are raised as much by appearances as by reality in politics,” he wrote, “and because they incite public distrust they need to be addressed no less directly than we would address evidence of expressly illegal corruption.”

A Formative Scandal

Mr. McCain started his career like many other aspiring politicians, eagerly courting the wealthy and powerful. A Vietnam war hero and Senate liaison for the Navy, he arrived in Arizona in 1980 after his second marriage, to Cindy Hensley, the heiress to a beer fortune there. He quickly started looking for a Congressional district where he could run.

Mr. Keating, a Phoenix financier and real estate developer, became an early sponsor and, soon, a friend. He was a man of great confidence and daring, Mr. McCain recalled in his memoir. “People like that appeal to me,” he continued. “I have sometimes forgotten that wisdom and a strong sense of public responsibility are much more admirable qualities.”

During Mr. McCain’s four years in the House, Mr. Keating, his family and his business associates contributed heavily to his political campaigns. The banker gave Mr. McCain free rides on his private jet, a violation of Congressional ethics rules (he later said it was an oversight and paid for the trips). They vacationed together in the Bahamas. And in 1986, the year Mr. McCain was elected to the Senate, his wife joined Mr. Keating in investing in an Arizona shopping mall.

Mr. Keating had taken over the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association and used its federally insured deposits to gamble on risky real estate and other investments. He pressed Mr. McCain and other lawmakers to help hold back federal banking regulators.

For years, Mr. McCain complied. At Mr. Keating’s request, he wrote several letters to regulators, introduced legislation and helped secure the nomination of a Keating associate to a banking regulatory board.

By early 1987, though, the thrift was careering toward disaster. Mr. McCain agreed to join several senators, eventually known as the Keating Five, for two private meetings with regulators to urge them to ease up. “Why didn’t I fully grasp the unusual appearance of such a meeting?” Mr. McCain later lamented in his memoir.

When Lincoln went bankrupt in 1989 — one of the biggest collapses of the savings and loan crisis, costing taxpayers $3.4 billion — the Keating Five became infamous. The scandal sent Mr. Keating to prison and ended the careers of three senators, who were rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee in 1991 for intervening. Mr. McCain, who had been a less aggressive advocate for Mr. Keating than the others, was reprimanded only for “poor judgment” and was re-elected the next year.

Some people involved think Mr. McCain got off too lightly. William Black, one of the banking regulators the senator met with, argued that Mrs. McCain’s investment with Mr. Keating created an obvious conflict of interest for her husband. (Mr. McCain had said a prenuptial agreement divided the couple’s assets.) He should not be able to “put this behind him,” Mr. Black said. “It sullied his integrity.”

Mr. McCain has since described the episode as a unique humiliation. “If I do not repress the memory, its recollection still provokes a vague but real feeling that I had lost something very important,” he wrote in his memoir. “I still wince thinking about it.”

A New Chosen Cause

After the Republican takeover of the Senate in 1994, Mr. McCain decided to try to put some of the lessons he had learned into law. He started by attacking earmarks, the pet projects that individual lawmakers could insert anonymously into the fine print of giant spending bills, a recipe for corruption. But he quickly moved on to other targets, most notably political fund-raising.

Mr. McCain earned the lasting animosity of many conservatives, who argue that his push for fund-raising restrictions trampled free speech, and of many of his Senate colleagues, who bristled that he was preaching to them so soon after his own repentance. In debates, his party’s leaders challenged him to name a single senator he considered corrupt (he refused).

“We used to joke that each of us was the only one eating alone in our caucus,” said Senator Russ Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, who became Mr. McCain’s partner on campaign finance efforts.

Mr. McCain appeared motivated less by the usual ideas about good governance than by a more visceral disapproval of the gifts, meals and money that influence seekers shower on lawmakers, Mr. Feingold said. “It had to do with his sense of honor,” he said. “He saw this stuff as cheating.”

Mr. McCain made loosening the grip of special interests the central cause of his 2000 presidential campaign, inviting scrutiny of his own ethics. His Republican rival, George W. Bush, accused him of “double talk” for soliciting campaign contributions from companies with interests that came before the powerful Senate commerce committee, of which Mr. McCain was chairman. Mr. Bush’s allies called Mr. McCain “sanctimonious.”

At one point, his campaign invited scores of lobbyists to a fund-raiser at the Willard Hotel in Washington. While Bush supporters stood mocking outside, the McCain team tried to defend his integrity by handing the lobbyists buttons reading “McCain voted against my bill.” Mr. McCain himself skipped the event, an act he later called “cowardly.”

By 2002, he had succeeded in passing the McCain-Feingold Act, which transformed American politics by banning “soft money,” the unlimited donations from corporations, unions and the rich that were funneled through the two political parties to get around previous laws.

One of his efforts, though, seemed self-contradictory. In 2001, he helped found the nonprofit Reform Institute to promote his cause and, in the process, his career. It collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in unlimited donations from companies that lobbied the Senate commerce committee. Mr. McCain initially said he saw no problems with the financing, but he severed his ties to the institute in 2005, complaining of “bad publicity” after news reports of the arrangement.

Like other presidential candidates, he has relied on lobbyists to run his campaigns. Since a cash crunch last summer, several of them — including his campaign manager, Rick Davis, who represented companies before Mr. McCain’s Senate panel — have been working without pay, a gift that could be worth tens of thousands of dollars.

In recent weeks, Mr. McCain has hired another lobbyist, Mark Buse, to run his Senate office. In his case, it was a round trip through the revolving door: Mr. Buse had directed Mr. McCain’s committee staff for seven years before leaving in 2001 to lobby for telecommunications companies.

Mr. McCain’s friends dismiss questions about his ties to lobbyists, arguing that he has too much integrity to let such personal connections influence him.

“Unless he gives you special treatment or takes legislative action against his own views, I don’t think his personal and social relationships matter,” said Charles Black, a friend and campaign adviser who has previously lobbied the senator for aviation, broadcasting and tobacco concerns.

Concerns in a Campaign

Mr. McCain’s confidence in his ability to distinguish personal friendships from compromising connections was at the center of questions advisers raised about Ms. Iseman.

The lobbyist, a partner at the firm Alcalde & Fay, represented telecommunications companies for whom Mr. McCain’s commerce committee was pivotal. Her clients contributed tens of thousands of dollars to his campaigns.

Mr. Black said Mr. McCain and Ms. Iseman were friends and nothing more. But in 1999 she began showing up so frequently in his offices and at campaign events that staff members took notice. One recalled asking, “Why is she always around?”

That February, Mr. McCain and Ms. Iseman attended a small fund-raising dinner with several clients at the Miami-area home of a cruise-line executive and then flew back to Washington along with a campaign aide on the corporate jet of one of her clients, Paxson Communications. By then, according to two former McCain associates, some of the senator’s advisers had grown so concerned that the relationship had become romantic that they took steps to intervene.

A former campaign adviser described being instructed to keep Ms. Iseman away from the senator at public events, while a Senate aide recalled plans to limit Ms. Iseman’s access to his offices.

In interviews, the two former associates said they joined in a series of confrontations with Mr. McCain, warning him that he was risking his campaign and career. Both said Mr. McCain acknowledged behaving inappropriately and pledged to keep his distance from Ms. Iseman. The two associates, who said they had become disillusioned with the senator, spoke independently of each other and provided details that were corroborated by others.

Separately, a top McCain aide met with Ms. Iseman at Union Station in Washington to ask her to stay away from the senator. John Weaver, a former top strategist and now an informal campaign adviser, said in an e-mail message that he arranged the meeting after “a discussion among the campaign leadership” about her.

“Our political messaging during that time period centered around taking on the special interests and placing the nation’s interests before either personal or special interest,” Mr. Weaver continued. “Ms. Iseman’s involvement in the campaign, it was felt by us, could undermine that effort.”

Mr. Weaver added that the brief conversation was only about “her conduct and what she allegedly had told people, which made its way back to us.” He declined to elaborate.

It is not clear what effect the warnings had; the associates said their concerns receded in the heat of the campaign.

Ms. Iseman acknowledged meeting with Mr. Weaver, but disputed his account.

“I never discussed with him alleged things I had ‘told people,’ that had made their way ‘back to’ him,” she wrote in an e-mail message. She said she never received special treatment from Mr. McCain’s office.

Mr. McCain said that the relationship was not romantic and that he never showed favoritism to Ms. Iseman or her clients. “I have never betrayed the public trust by doing anything like that,” he said. He made the statements in a call to Bill Keller, the executive editor of The New York Times, to complain about the paper’s inquiries.

The senator declined repeated interview requests, beginning in December. He also would not comment about the assertions that he had been confronted about Ms. Iseman, Mr. Black said Wednesday.

Mr. Davis and Mark Salter, Mr. McCain’s top strategists in both of his presidential campaigns, disputed accounts from the former associates and aides and said they did not discuss Ms. Iseman with the senator or colleagues.

“I never had any good reason to think that the relationship was anything other than professional, a friendly professional relationship,” Mr. Salter said in an interview.

He and Mr. Davis also said Mr. McCain had frequently denied requests from Ms. Iseman and the companies she represented. In 2006, Mr. McCain sought to break up cable subscription packages, which some of her clients opposed. And his proposals for satellite distribution of local television programs fell short of her clients’ hopes.

The McCain aides said the senator sided with Ms. Iseman’s clients only when their positions hewed to his principles.

A champion of deregulation, Mr. McCain wrote letters in 1998 and 1999 to the Federal Communications Commission urging it to uphold marketing agreements allowing a television company to control two stations in the same city, a crucial issue for Glencairn Ltd., one of Ms. Iseman’s clients. He introduced a bill to create tax incentives for minority ownership of stations; Ms. Iseman represented several businesses seeking such a program. And he twice tried to advance legislation that would permit a company to control television stations in overlapping markets, an important issue for Paxson.

In late 1999, Ms. Iseman asked Mr. McCain’s staff to send a letter to the commission to help Paxson, now Ion Media Networks, on another matter. Mr. Paxson was impatient for F.C.C. approval of a television deal, and Ms. Iseman acknowledged in an e-mail message to The Times that she had sent to Mr. McCain’s staff information for drafting a letter urging a swift decision.

Mr. McCain complied. He sent two letters to the commission, drawing a rare rebuke for interference from its chairman. In an embarrassing turn for the campaign, news reports invoked the Keating scandal, once again raising questions about intervening for a patron.

Mr. McCain’s aides released all of his letters to the F.C.C. to dispel accusations of favoritism, and aides said the campaign had properly accounted for four trips on the Paxson plane. But the campaign did not report the flight with Ms. Iseman. Mr. McCain’s advisers say he was not required to disclose the flight, but ethics lawyers dispute that.

Recalling the Paxson episode in his memoir, Mr. McCain said he was merely trying to push along a slow-moving bureaucracy, but added that he was not surprised by the criticism given his history.

“Any hint that I might have acted to reward a supporter,” he wrote, “would be taken as an egregious act of hypocrisy.”

Statement by McCain

Mr. McCain’s presidential campaign issued the following statement Wednesday night:

“It is a shame that The New York Times has lowered its standards to engage in a hit-and-run smear campaign. John McCain has a 24-year record of serving our country with honor and integrity. He has never violated the public trust, never done favors for special interests or lobbyists, and he will not allow a smear campaign to distract from the issues at stake in this election.

“Americans are sick and tired of this kind of gutter politics, and there is nothing in this story to suggest that John McCain has ever violated the principles that have guided his career.”

Barclay Walsh and Kitty Bennett contributed research.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: February 26, 2008
A front-page article on Feb. 21 about Senator John McCain’s record on lobbying and ethics, including his role in the Keating Five case, described incorrectly the reprimand delivered to three other members of the Senate in 1991 for intervening with government regulators on behalf of Charles H. Keating Jr. The Senate Ethics Committee rebuked the three senators for improper behavior, but under a parliamentary agreement the full Senate did not censure them or take any other vote on the matter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/polit...agewanted=print

Nomarchy
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 05:21 PM) *
Millions of people and the media that treats it as a paper of record.



Hail to a.v., enlightener of the fooled and those living in the dark.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ May 16 2008, 05:28 PM) *
Hail to a.v., enlightener of the fooled and those living in the dark.


I don't think they're all that enlightened yet.
Innocent
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 08:20 PM) *
To be absolutely clear: The Times itself was not suggesting that there had been an affair or even that there had been the appearance of an affair. The Times was reporting that there was a time eight years ago when some people felt there might be the appearance of an affair, although others, apparently including McCain himself, apparently felt that there was no such appearance.


Hmmm. 8 yrs ago. When he ran against Bush Jr. I wonder if it was another "McCain fathered an illegitimate black baby" smear. It does sound pretty Rovian.
Innocent
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ May 16 2008, 08:27 PM) *
February 21, 2008The Long Run
For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk
WASHINGTON — Early in Senator John McCain’s first run for the White House eight years ago, waves of anxiety swept through his small circle of advisers.

A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.


Well, that article certainly didn't appear to be problematic.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Innocent @ May 16 2008, 06:04 PM) *
Well, that article certainly didn't appear to be problematic.


It just drops a little innuendo right after McCain becomes the nominee and there's no turning back. Some staffers felt uncomfortable and mentioned something might have looked bad? That's about as third party and inconclusive as it gets. I understand that's how the game is played, but don't complain about mentions of Obama's past. All is fair or nothing.
Nomarchy
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 06:24 PM) *
It just drops a little innuendo right after McCain becomes the nominee and there's no turning back. Some staffers felt uncomfortable and mentioned something might have looked bad? That's about as third party and inconclusive as it gets. I understand that's how the game is played, but don't complain about mentions of Obama's past. All is fair or nothing.



Bullshit. It drops no such innuendo. It's an article about how even appearances of impropriety are tougher on McCain and how he, himself, is not 'politician' enough, sometimes to recognize the possible problem.

Anyone who concluded from that article either a. that McCain actually had an affair with a lobbyist or b. that the Times insinuated that he actually had an affair with a lobbyist either needs to learn to read for comprehension or to stop trying to BULLSHIT us.
Innocent
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 09:24 PM) *
It just drops a little innuendo right after McCain becomes the nominee and there's no turning back.


What do you see as innuendo? According to the article, it was his own staffers attempting to protect him from himself. That falls either on his staff, or McCain himself, or both. It's hard to see how anything in the article itself is problematic.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Innocent @ May 16 2008, 06:56 PM) *
What do you see as innuendo? According to the article, it was his own staffers attempting to protect him from himself. That falls either on his staff, or McCain himself, or both. It's hard to see how anything in the article itself is problematic.


A story of unnamed staff trying to protect him from a nebulous appearance of vague impropriety released right AFTER he became the presumtive nominee?

Smacks of fishing expedition to me.
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Nomarchy
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ May 16 2008, 08:52 PM) *
A story of unnamed staff trying to protect him from a nebulous appearance of vague impropriety released right AFTER he became the presumtive nominee?

Smacks of fishing expedition to me.


Released, my foot.

Far be it from you to ever concede a point, of course.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ May 16 2008, 10:35 PM) *
Released, my foot.


They had some choice. I'm not alone in my thinking, though the reasons are debateable.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/20/w...ca_n_87704.html


n the wake of revelations that Sen. John McCain had a close and perhaps romantic relationship with a telecommunications lobbyist, political observers are left wondering why The New York Times chose to run the article when it did. Meanwhile, conservatives are contemplating how different the election would be had the story been published sooner. In the aftermath of the Times story, some subtle but important information has come unearthed showing how McCain's relationship with 40-year-old Vicki Iseman, a partner with the firm Alcalde & Fay, became public.

Bob Bennett, a powerful D.C. attorney and lawyer for McCain, acknowledged the extent of his fervent efforts to kill the story for the first time during an interview on Fox News.

"I did have several conversations and one meeting with the New York Times reporters and repeatedly provided them answers to their questions," he said Thursday evening. "And I was satisfied that there was nothing here. But no, I worked very hard at it."

As Bennett notes, news that the Times had an article on McCain's relationship with Iseman was known months ago, albeit with only slight hints of the romantic angle.

In December, the Drudge Report wrote that McCain was waging a "ferocious behind the scenes battle with the Times... against charges of giving special treatment to a lobbyist."

Soon after, the Washington Post's media reporter Howard Kurtz penned an item in which McCain was quoted as saying he had "never done any favors for anybody -- lobbyist or special interest group." Allegations otherwise, he added, were "gutter politics."

Other journalists believed to be on the story included, according to Radar Magazine's Charles Kaiser, Michael Isikoff of Newsweek and Michael Calderone of Politico.

So why would the Times hesitate to act? A number of theories, beyond threats of legal action, have been batted around by analysts. They range from the generous -- the paper could simply have thought it unfair to publish the story on the eve of a slew of presidential primaries -- to the nefarious -- the Times was waiting to unload on McCain only after he secured the nomination.

"Everyone accuses the New York Times of liberal bias," political analyst Keli Goff speculated on CNN. "If they wanted to play politics, they could have sat on the story and waited until you have perhaps an Obama-McCain match-up and drop this baby in October when it really matters. I think that this idea of...them playing politics with it to, you know, harm the Republican Party, I don't know if we can really agree with that."

Timely competitive pressures also may have been in play. As the McCain story was making the rounds on the cable news networks Wednesday evening, news surfaced that The New Republic had been slated to do a piece of its own. The magazine's blog noted that a story on the Times' foot-dragging will appear on the site on Thursday.

Regardless of the paper's motives, conservative pundits were left fuming, noting that the Times had, at once, spared McCain at the point of his greatest vulnerability (when his campaign was still a long shot) and denied his primary opponents perhaps the knock-out blow. Would the GOP have a different candidate on its hands had things been handled differently?

"Oh, there's no question it would have impacted [the race]," Bay Buchanan, a former adviser of ex-Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, told CNN. "I think John McCain would not have won this primary if there's any evidence whatsoever that surfaces that these stories are true... McCain's lawyers went into the New York Times and said do not touch this story. Do not move on this story. And there's no question this was beneficial to McCain to hold the story. No question. His nomination was very much threatened by this story if it broke too early. So what they did was hurt the Republican Party by not allowing this to be aired properly at the time they received this information."

Davis 2.0
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ May 16 2008, 07:28 PM) *
Hail to a.v., enlightener of the fooled and those living in the dark.


Hail the king.

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