I thought about posting that in "jokes," but of course I realized it wasn't one.

Ouch!!!

At least it's sex with someone I love.

And nobody gets hit in the forehead.

I think somehow I am never gonna forget that line.

I still keep my motorcycle helmet handy just in case.

..........to sing my song.

i'm goin' round the world, i'm gonna find my girl.

on my way.........

From Buster Bs' 'blog

No Means No, A Fictional Conversation

"No means no!" "What part of 'no' don't you understand?" "When a woman says 'no' you should take her seriously."

The idea is that pressing the point after a woman says "No" is supposed to be at best inconsiderate and at worst abusive. Women, of course, would never do such a thing. They would stop as soon as a man said "No." A woman would treat a man's "No" with honour and respect, so why can't a man do the same for her "No"?

Ha ha. I was even starting to believe myself for a moment there. Sometimes I crack myself up.

Have you ever tried saying "No" to a woman? Women whine and wail that men just won't take "No" for an answer. On the contrary, most men I know take "No" for an answer after trying only a couple of times (at most) to press their point. If women want to see people who absolutely can't take "No" for answer, they should try looking in the mirror. How many men out there have tried, in vain, these time-worn classics?

• No, I don't want to go to the ballet.
• No, I don't want your mother staying here for a month.
• No, the living room would not look good in pink.
• No, I don't feel like moving the couch.
• No, I don't think we should have children.
• No, I don't want us to buy a puppy.

Try saying any of these things to a woman who wants the opposite, and she'll ask you again. And again. And again. She'll cry; she'll whine; she'll command; she'll stop talking to you for a week. She'll bring up the same request week after week, month after month, until you finally cave in and give her what she wants. In fact, when faced with the word "No" in connection with something they really want, women do the same damned thing that they despise in men. Only they're more persistent.

The last example is from my own experience. My wife wants a puppy. I do not want a puppy, not because I don't like dogs (I love dogs) but because we live in a tiny apartment and we both work. I think it's unfair to the dog to be alone 16 hours a day (8 while we work, 8 while we sleep), cooped up in a four-room box, just so we can play with it for half an hour a day and take it for a couple of walks. I want to wait until we get a house, so the poor thing can at least play outside.

My wife will get her puppy, probably sooner rather than later. She will get it because every week, sometimes several times a week, she asks, "Can we buy a puppy?" She will do this until I finally can't stand it any more and I buy the puppy.

I have a friend who went house-shopping with her husband two years ago. After looking at several small houses that they could afford, the agent pulled an old trick and took them to a beautiful house that they couldn't afford. In my friend's words, "He didn't want the house because he said we couldn't pay for it. I loved it. Poor guy, he didn't stand a chance." She always giggles when she says this. She thinks it's hilarious.

I suppose it would shock her to know that I think she did exactly the same thing as do men who put pressure on women to have sex. My wife would probably be surprised to learn that I think she's exactly like those aggressive guys who badger women until finally the girls cave in and the guys get some.

"But I was talking about sex, not buying puppies!"

Yeah, yeah. The oldest female trick in the book: narrowly define the discourse to something that women don't want, then say that men can avoid the same thing whenever they like. In the words of Anatole France, "The majestic egalitarianism of the law, which forbids the rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." In this case, it's a cheap ploy to give men permission to say no to sex, and only to sex, knowing that it's something men are unlikely to say no to.

The bottom line is not sex but respect. Women are demanding that men respect their decisions regarding sex and not badger them to change their minds, while simultaneously giving no such respect to men on other matters.

"Sex is the most intimate act in a relationship; you can't equate it with buying a puppy!"

Far be it from women to actually get the point where "men's issues" are concerned, so let's then talk about sex. I have a radical question to pose.

Has any of you men ever tried saying "No" to sex with your partner?

Some men consider this ludicrous. After all, men are always ready and willing. Well, here's a news flash: not all of us are. Some men have slowed down for whatever reason, while other men are often ready and willing but sometimes, because of sickness, sadness, or just a rotten day don't feel like doing it. Have you ever tried telling a woman "No" without having a damned good reason, like your leg was broken or your sister had just died?

I'll give you a hint: it doesn't go over well.

Study indicates male brain four per cent faster

CTV.ca News Staff

Canadian researchers examining the speed at which the brain works found a secondary discovery -- the male brain works slightly faster than a female one.

The difference in brain speed between the genders -- not the main purpose of the study -- was highlighted in a report in Thursday's Toronto Star.

One of the study's findings was that in men's brains, messages travel four per cent faster than in women's brains.

Researchers examined nerve conduction velocity (NCV) -- the speed at which messages are transmitted between brain cells -- for the study which will be published in the academic journal, Intelligence.

The study's lead author is Edward Reed, professor emeritus in anthropology and zoology at the University of Toronto. The other authors are Phillip Vernon and Andrew Johnson, two psychology professors at the University of Western Ontario.

They stress that their discovery does not mean men are smarter -- and that the difference in gender reaction times is minimal.

". . . the small sex difference that we reported (4 per cent) was secondary to the purpose of the study (which was to attempt to replicate an earlier report by the first-author)," Vernon wrote in an email to CTV.ca.

"Had we conducted the study with younger participants it is possible (likely) that girls would have shown faster NCVs than boys," added Vernon.

"Finally, a difference as small as 4 per cent is unlikely to yield any meaningful differences in cognitive abilities (which is probably why the vast majority of previous studies have found no sex differences in general intelligence)."

The study tested 186 males and 201 females between the ages of 18 and 25.

"It's been known for some decades more intelligent people have faster reaction times," Reed told The Star.

"Brain nerve conduction velocity is an important component in how rapidly we think and this can contribute to being more or less intelligent. If that speed is very low you're going to think slowly. If it's faster, you'll think faster."

Reaction

Canadian feminist Doris Anderson told the Star that the issue of gender differences in the brain is "one of those perennial questions that keep popping up."

"I think there may be a difference between male and female brains. Girls talk earlier. Boys develop different motor skills. But I think an awful lot of the difference between male and female is taught to them," said Anderson to the Star.

Dr. Ruth King from York University's Dept. of Women's Studies told CTV.ca:

"Why is this on the front page? I mean, it's a study that's not been published yet and there's not enough information given for me to say anything beyond the fact that it seems to be part of this general fascination with alleged sex differences."

In the end, though, if one is going to be a self-respecting man, it shouldn't make one iota of a difference if it does or does not "go over well". One has to decide that the woman's reaction to one's genuine decisions and preferences (short- and long-term) is not the end-all, be-all of a man's existence.

LOL that doesn't go over well either.

Interesting points. That no thing doesn't go over well at all, and I don't recall it ever getting much discussion because I doubt many men want to be known as saying no because unwilling might be construed as unable.

Which brain is it they're talking about, Millness? Being a girl I ain't too good at science ... I do recall there're two. (I am at least that good at math.)

MmmmHmmm. And because it be a spectacular mythbuster. It's you guys' myth.

Since the synapses start hard wiring early what kind of stimulus girls get early may well make a difference. Those unused neurons probably don't last very long. Once the brain's parts are committed it's probably harder to re-educate them.

I haven't studied the differences between how girl and boy babies are treated, but I can't imagine there aren't differences.

Exactly. But we rule, right?

Conventional wisdom has it that the little brain is at least 400% faster that the equivalent female organ.

Meaning?

The myth that men are always ready for and always desirous of sex. When haven't you heard the joke? When, past 19 or so, have you much known the reality?

Or maybe it's just me and all my friends ... in all our time and experience.

In fact, reading this site for a year or few I would think it was reality. And then, above, youse all are maybe kinda admitting it it not ... quite.

Maybe kinda admitting? I don't think it's men that put forth that "always ready for sex" notion. I most often hear it from women, and with derision I might add.

But even that is off the point that the article makes. The guy is right. Young men are conditioned to accept 'no' for an answer when it comes to sex.
Young women are not. So if a man turns down sex, there must be something wrong with him.

Of course it is men who put forth the image that they are always ready for sex. I would not think that is not up for serious debate.

And when a man turns her down, a young woman particularly will more probably think it is her fault. After all, this creature who is a nonstop sex machine by all reports or portrayals just turned her down?

Oh, yes, something must be wrong with one of them.

Are you serious? Do you really believe that?

Um, does the << >> convey nothing?

Could mean many things. Such as Duh!. Emoticons are as open to interpretation as words. (I submit bubs smiley whilst pissing)

If that take is widespread, I best be carefuller. I've become an emotifool on this site. I submit, however, that Bub's smileys while stabbing are rather classically passive-aggressive. And the offense which his remarks are designed to give is heightened, not softened.

Or so my reaction would lead one to believe.

I've done the grin/slash more than once.

I take it you are not of the opinion that something is "wrong" with one party or the other when the fella doesn't wish to indulge?

Is the pissy denied woman a phenomenon of females in their twenties then? Does the attitude change over time?

Seriously.

Probably largely. I would wonder what's behind it, though. And what the dimensions and dynamics of the relationship are.

The grin/slash, btw, strikes me as an all-out frontal assault. At least you're straight up where you're coming from.

I'm on a Red Green kick. The news has done went & drove me to it.

It is a race against time. Everybody that slows me down from my objective is stealing a little bit from me.

Unless your objective is to be in the time.

That is a problem with me. Probably best not to get into it in a public forum.

Sure, men say no. But they usually spend a bit of time thinking about it, and "give in" for their partners sake, of course.

Aren't they just the most benevolent creatures?

Violently shaking head.

ain't sayin' if up-'n-down or sideways.

Seems to me that mens' insticts run to gaining control without accepting responsibility. Not that they always do. But their instincts tell them to avoid it.

Maybe it's genetic.

You are such a beyotch. You think that what you so sarcastically describe doesn't happen. Maybe guys don't "give in" for their partners' sake, but rest assured, we "give in".

---From a fun site----

"kidding aside... this article appeared today in the NY Daily News Therstory section (yes they have there own section, and no there is no Mansday instead of Monday).

anyway.. here is the text of the article.. (as is) right now i am too apopleptic to comment... (not really but this is long enough)"


Panning for a partner
Want to land a rich guy? Here's
how the city's gold diggers do it
BY BRITTANY SCHAEFFER
When Erica, 25, steps into a bar crowded with businessmen, she sees more than pressed suits and polished Italian leather shoes. She envisions a beach house in St. Barts A wardrobe stocked with Louboutins and Choos. Ten-carat Harry Winston diamond earrings - all over-the-top luxuries out of reach of most people. But Erica (who, like all the women in this story, requested her last name not be used), wasn't born with a trust fund. And she doesn't let a low-paying public relations job keep her from expecting such fineries one day. She exclusively dates men with money, and her exes include a roster of men in finance with degrees from top business schools.
And she's not alone - scores of New York women who weren't born rich are cashing in on free drinks, dinners and yes, even diamonds, by seeking out wealthy men.
"Some say that it's the desire to continue to live in the lifestyle they were brought up in," says Erica, "Others say it's about getting power in what's generally a man-friendly economic climate, others that they simply want nice things. I think it's about all of the above."
Sarah, 27, who works in publishing and waits tables on weekends to make ends meet, generally hits up exclusive bars and clubs like Frederick's and SoHo House two or three times a week with a group of girlfriends for cocktails, and to find cute, wealthy guys.
"I'm not getting any younger and I need someone who is going in the right direction in life," says Sarah. "I will not date an artist of any sort."
Tricks of the trade
At a charity ball at Jazz at Lincoln Center last week, Sarah dressed in a stunning floor-length gown, sipped Champagne and attracted the attention of scores of tuxedo-clad men. They complimented her faux-diamond earrings ("I wish they were real," she laughs), and one man, who recently relocated from London, proclaimed that she was the first woman he intended to date in NYC. While he, and some of the others got blown off (too young, not straight, balding), she chatted up many of them, and ended up landing a dinner at Union Square's chichi Strip House the following week, courtesy of one of her suitors.
The trend is nothing new (and perhaps not surprising in the face of a burgeoning luxury market and glossy magazines that advertise just how well the other half lives). The difference now is that for many young, educated women, dating rich doesn't have as much to do with social standing and security as it does with experiencing the finer things in life. Women like Sarah even see scoring free dinners at fancy restaurants and gifts like an Hermes scarf (which she promptly sold on eBay) as engaging in a reverse feminism, of sorts.
"If a guy can go out and use a girl, why can't a girl do the same thing?" says Sarah. "Especially when you know he doesn't want anything more from you than to just take you to a restaurant, show you off, try to sleep with you and call you up in two weeks for another dinner - solely because he has nothing else to do and no one else to go out with that night."
While desperate guys are infamous for throwing one-liners at pretty girls, these ladies rarely approach men, and favor the more subtle tactic of winning attention simply by looking hot. Beyond keeping every hair in place, they squeeze into body-hugging jeans and dresses, and often wear identifiable designer pieces - a Gucci clutch, a pair of pricey Hudson jeans. But girls like Sarah and Erica know that the real secret to landing a wealthy man, is location, location, location.
"Frederick's, Biltmore Room, SoHo House, steakhouses or any private club that I cannot get into," says Sarah. "And any bars across from investment banks."
Sarah, who has been compared with Brooke Burke and frequently is mistaken for a model, is often asked out by older, wealthy men. On a Monday evening at the Bull & Bear - the Waldorf-Astoria bar - a few 40-plus men approach her as she sips a glass of white wine. They hand her their cards - a move intended to impress, as it immediately conveys the bearer's important title and financial status.
Erica says she sees plenty of guys doing the same thing, aware now more than ever that some girls are impressed by high rollers.
Show her the money, tactfully
"If he announces how well-off he is, I'll think he is a real Neanderthal and that no matter how big his bonus is, he'll never have enough money to buy himself a modicum of class," says Erica. "But, I'll still flirt outrageously with him because I know he will at least buy all my drinks for the night."
But while some men seem comfortable playing sugar daddy, others, like Alex Valerio, a 26-year-old in fashion marketing who divides his time between New York and Paris, say that they like to keep their cash under wraps.
Valerio, whose parents own a pure-bred Arabian horse farm and an international housewares company, recently ended a six-month relationship after he began to feel that his girlfriend was using him for his dough.
"We'd travel everywhere together, and I'd buy her gifts," he explains. "But I began to realize that she didn't like me, so much as she liked the life I could provide her with."
He promptly dropped the girl, and now waits several months into a relationship before revealing that he's got so much money that he doesn't have to work at all. He says he wants to find someone who's in love with him.
But many gold diggers say that just because they want a guy who's wealthy doesn't mean that they don't want a happy, meaningful relationship, too.
"You can have it all," says Sarah.
Of course, women like Sarah and Erica are not only acutely aware of not only the stigma, but also the possible reality of dating and marrying for money.
"Marrying a man for money is a gamble at best," says Erica. "You trade yourself for someone you don't love, a lifestyle that will probably be vacuous, with friends who don't care about you."
And although the label "gold digger" is an ugly one, Erica doesn't mind.
"It's more acceptable, indeed even expected, for a woman to want a man with money. It's a consumer-based society - the biggest house, the fastest car, the most extravagant vacations," she says. "This is a culture that revels in excess and hardly ever advocates moderation on any level, and we all buy into it."
* * *
Where the 'Diggers' go
Location is everything in New York - especially when it comes to landing Richie Rich - and these spots are known for attracting wealthy, eligible men. Happy hunting!
FREDERICK'S 8 W. 58th St., at Fifth Ave., (212) 752-6200. Good-looking women and guys with bucks are welcome.
THE BULL & BEAR 301 Park Ave., at 49th St., (212) 872-4900. Attracts wealthy older men.
MARQUEE 289 10th Ave., at 27th St., (646) 473-0202. You either have to be a somebody or a rich man to get into this exclusive club.
ULYSSES 58 Stone St., at Hanover Square, (212) 482-0400. Frequented by Wall Street types.
DON HILL'S 511 Greenwich St., at Spring St., (212) 219-2850. Bankers line up at the bar here Thursday nights.
HOTEL GANSEVOORT BAR 18 Ninth Ave., at 13th St., (212) 206-6700. In the middle of the Meatpacking District, this is where hip hunks hang out.
Celebs who struck gold - big time!
These gals secured luxurious lifestyles when they married money. While all claim they wed for love, when saying "I do" comes with a bank account that allows for jet-setting, millions in baubles and homes wherever they'd like, who'd question their motives?
When former Guess? model Anna Nicole Smith, then 26, wed oil magnate J. Howard Marshall in 1994, tongues started wagging. Not surprising, given that Marshall was a wheelchair-bound, 89-year-old billionaire. When Marshall died, Smith became embroiled in a lawsuit with Marshall's son, who claimed the former stripper didn't deserve a dime of his dad's estate. The case is ongoing, and Smith - who has $88.5 million at stake - vows to take her fight to the Supreme Court, if necessary.
Melinda French was a Microsoft marketing exec when she met the company's founder, Bill Gates. The pair wed in 1994, and it's fair to say that French's stock value increased exponentially, Gates being the richest man in the world and all.
Sure, 34-year-old Slovenian Melania Knauss was a model before she married Donald Trump in January. But it's unlikely that her mannequin salary even came close to Trump's multimillions.
Marrying Jets football player Mark Gastineau landed Lisa Gastineau big bucks and media exposure. Now divorced, she and daughter Brittany have finagled their own reality TV show, "The Gastineau Girls," documenting their search for money - er - love.

"But many gold diggers say that just because they want a guy who's wealthy doesn't mean that they don't want a happy, meaningful relationship, too."

LMAO.

Wow. These guys are jaded. And there are so many of them. Is it possible a corner is about to be turned?

"Their lives are based on emotions rather than moral principle and I believe a woman's concience, being emotionally based, is NOT trust-worthy. Their morals change with their mood. This is why even "Christian" women who claim to care about what is Biblically right, will drop their panties for the first guy who makes them "feeeeeeel" good emotionally. For the most part, women DO NOT CARE about the men they are with or who he is as a person. They simply view them in terms of what that man can give HER or do for HER. His heart, mind, and feelings mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING."

Preach on brother! ROFL.

Millness, you need someone to crawl around on the floor with you and help you look for your last marble.

C'mon! THerstory was in the NYDaily News!!
What a glorious city!! Where single women outnumber single men to the order of three to one.

(and ya still gotta be rich to get a gurl)

Oh. So that's what this is about? You're not rich enough? And then on all your other overused little fingers, you're counting up all the ones who are or would be after your money.

No Barta, I'm counting up all the one's that aren't or wouldn't.


ROFL @all... I kill me.

Honestly, I just thought it would be fun to post what some guys are saying on some other forums.

Trust me, the above was tame.