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QUOTE(beasty @ Aug 29 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]324993[/snapback]
Nobody believes in fully free markets, least of all you.
Actually, least of all, Capitalists. They don't like to play unless the system is rigged in their favor.
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Why would that be?
Actual supply and demand.
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I'd prefer the government didn't bail out anyone, but if you want it to have the power to dole out welfare checks it's going to dole out money elsewhere as well.
It's not all or nothing, however. Most people are willing to help the less fortunate in this country, and majority still carries weight.
QUOTE(Bee @ Aug 29 2007, 12:13 PM) [snapback]325003[/snapback]
It's not all or nothing, however. Most people are willing to help the less fortunate in this country, and majority still carries weight.
Most are, but then what counts as less fortunate matters. Are kids too lazy to even graduate high school and get a job less fortunate, or is it always somebody else's fault. The teachers, the department of education, George Bush. How much help am I supposed to pay for?
QUOTE(Bee @ Aug 29 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]324960[/snapback]
An "us?" The collective or the royal variety? How many are there in your head, incidentally? Juuust curious. Maybe "try medication" for that problem. It looks like all the fawning over Katz you've been doing has 'rubbed off' a bit.
Not projecting. Observing.
I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that practically everybody can tell that you're a 'nobody', that you are, in fact, 'little people'.
The rest is a figment of your very fertile and probably amped imagination.
It is clear to me that your observing 'equipment', that which you attempt to pass off as an actual brain, is in disrepair and is malfunctioning. So, your 'observations' are invariably faulty.
QUOTE(Bee @ Aug 29 2007, 01:56 PM) [snapback]324984[/snapback]
Actually, I believe in Free Markets.
What we have here is hardly either Free or a Market. If "the market was truly free," McDonalds and WalMart would be paying better wages and Hedge Fund Managers would lose their shirts for their bad judgement and greed.
It interests me that those that Cry the loudest about Capitalism are the ones that tolerate the most interference.
Beasty likely thinks it's just "fine" for the Feds to Bail out the Banks. That has a lot more impact then the fact that there are a few thousand people gaming welfare.
It's a shame you can't make a good living working at McDonalds. Perhaps if Mr Bee also had a job, you all would be better off.
QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Aug 29 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]325050[/snapback]
I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that practically everybody can tell that you're a 'nobody', that you are, in fact, 'little people'.
The rest is a figment of your very fertile and probably amped imagination.
It is clear to me that your observing 'equipment', that which you attempt to pass off as an actual brain, is in disrepair and is malfunctioning. So, your 'observations' are invariably faulty.
Beezer is a little person who lives in a little house in a little state and tries to come off as one of the "elite". It doesn't work.
While liberals leap for joy over Larry Craig, they quietly carry out their indoctrination............
Illinois School Pushes Smut on Children
By Matt Barber
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Warning: Adult content.
Illinois School District 126, covering Alsip, Hazelgreen and Oak Lawn, has defended its choice to assign summer reading to 12- and 13-year-olds that is replete with harsh profanity and references to teen sex (even teen sex with adults).
Prairie Junior High School’s required reading list for rising 8th graders gave children six books to choose from over the summer. Parents have complained that three of the six books contain adult content which is highly age-inappropriate. Those complaints, however, have fallen on deaf ears. At a recent school board meeting, school board members said they intend to continue assigning the books. The following are excerpts from just a handful of the many salacious passages found in one of the books, Fat Kid Rules the World, by K. L. Going:
·God, I want to touch her. Her legs are full. … If I could just reach under that skirt. … (p. 6)
·No one beats me or f—s me without my permission. (p. 11)
·F—k off, morons. (p. 47)
·I swear I’ll tear your g—d*mn, f—ing b*lls off…(p. 57)
·“She’d f—k you if you stay in the band,” he says (p. 141)
·…and now he has promised me that a forty-something woman will sleep with me if I’m the drummer (p. 142)
Classy stuff, Prairie Junior High. Is that how you talk in front of your kids, Principal Gwaltney?
To add insult to injury, the school didn’t even have the courtesy to warn these kids — or their parents — about the adult content within the assigned reading. And parents are understandably furious. If one of my daughters came to me at twelve having been assigned this smut, I’d be ticked-off too.
Whatever happened to classics like Ivanhoe or Up From Slavery? Sure, some of them may even contain limited profanity and adult content, but there’s a big difference. The profane content in Fat Kid isn’t sporadic. It’s pervasive and gratuitous. The book has 110 pages containing the F-word and other profanities, and there are multiple crude sexual references.
With all the objectionable material children are subjected to on the internet, on television and in theatres, it’s outrageous that educators, who are charged with helping to mold the minds of these 12- and 13-year-olds, would willingly — if not eagerly — contribute to their moral degradation by pushing this kind of vulgarity on them. It amounts to educational malpractice, and School District 126 should have its mouth washed out with soap.
I telephoned Robert Berger, superintendent of schools for District 126, fully expecting him to assure me that this foolishness would be remedied. But instead, his response was defiant, defensive and arrogant.
Berger refused to answer me when I asked him several times if District 126 believed that such mature content was appropriate for children. (I wonder; if it’s so appropriate, then why wouldn’t he defend it?)
I asked Berger if one could infer that the district found the material appropriate since it was assigned to children. He quipped, “Infer whatever you want to.”
No one’s calling for a book burning here, but c’mon, these are just kids. Does District 126 have any standards of decency at all?
Unfortunately the actions of District 126 are symptomatic of a metastasizing moral malady within our larger system of public education. Kids in public schools across the country are constantly inundated with material which promotes profanity, homosexuality, promiscuity and abortion.
The Agenda is pushed and the curriculum set by leftist groups like the National Education Association (NEA), the ACLU and the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). Even the American Library Association (ALA) gave Fat Kids its “Michael L. Printz Award for Excellence in Young Adult Literature.” The book also received a rave review from America’s largest homosexual activist literary organization, Lambda Literary Foundation.
By constantly lowering the bar on decency, educators are intentionally playing a game of ideological limbo with our children’s moral well-being as they seek to create little moral relativists in their own iconoclastic self-image. And they’re robbing kids of great reading like Oliver Twist, Treasure Island and many others in the process.
How low will they go?
By the looks of things in Alsip, Illinois, they’re not going to bottom out anytime soon.
I think Davis read this book when he was in this district.
Illinois School Pushes Smut on Children
By Matt Barber
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Warning: Adult content.
Illinois School District 126, covering Alsip, Hazelgreen and Oak Lawn, has defended its choice to assign summer reading to 12- and 13-year-olds that is replete with harsh profanity and references to teen sex (even teen sex with adults).
Prairie Junior High School’s required reading list for rising 8th graders gave children six books to choose from over the summer. Parents have complained that three of the six books contain adult content which is highly age-inappropriate. Those complaints, however, have fallen on deaf ears. At a recent school board meeting, school board members said they intend to continue assigning the books. The following are excerpts from just a handful of the many salacious passages found in one of the books, Fat Kid Rules the World, by K. L. Going:
·God, I want to touch her. Her legs are full. … If I could just reach under that skirt. … (p. 6)
·No one beats me or f—s me without my permission. (p. 11)
·F—k off, morons. (p. 47)
·I swear I’ll tear your g—d*mn, f—ing b*lls off…(p. 57)
·“She’d f—k you if you stay in the band,” he says (p. 141)
·…and now he has promised me that a forty-something woman will sleep with me if I’m the drummer (p. 142)
Classy stuff, Prairie Junior High. Is that how you talk in front of your kids, Principal Gwaltney?
To add insult to injury, the school didn’t even have the courtesy to warn these kids — or their parents — about the adult content within the assigned reading. And parents are understandably furious. If one of my daughters came to me at twelve having been assigned this smut, I’d be ticked-off too.
Whatever happened to classics like Ivanhoe or Up From Slavery? Sure, some of them may even contain limited profanity and adult content, but there’s a big difference. The profane content in Fat Kid isn’t sporadic. It’s pervasive and gratuitous. The book has 110 pages containing the F-word and other profanities, and there are multiple crude sexual references.
With all the objectionable material children are subjected to on the internet, on television and in theatres, it’s outrageous that educators, who are charged with helping to mold the minds of these 12- and 13-year-olds, would willingly — if not eagerly — contribute to their moral degradation by pushing this kind of vulgarity on them. It amounts to educational malpractice, and School District 126 should have its mouth washed out with soap.
I telephoned Robert Berger, superintendent of schools for District 126, fully expecting him to assure me that this foolishness would be remedied. But instead, his response was defiant, defensive and arrogant.
Berger refused to answer me when I asked him several times if District 126 believed that such mature content was appropriate for children. (I wonder; if it’s so appropriate, then why wouldn’t he defend it?)
I asked Berger if one could infer that the district found the material appropriate since it was assigned to children. He quipped, “Infer whatever you want to.”
No one’s calling for a book burning here, but c’mon, these are just kids. Does District 126 have any standards of decency at all?
Unfortunately the actions of District 126 are symptomatic of a metastasizing moral malady within our larger system of public education. Kids in public schools across the country are constantly inundated with material which promotes profanity, homosexuality, promiscuity and abortion.
The Agenda is pushed and the curriculum set by leftist groups like the National Education Association (NEA), the ACLU and the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). Even the American Library Association (ALA) gave Fat Kids its “Michael L. Printz Award for Excellence in Young Adult Literature.” The book also received a rave review from America’s largest homosexual activist literary organization, Lambda Literary Foundation.
By constantly lowering the bar on decency, educators are intentionally playing a game of ideological limbo with our children’s moral well-being as they seek to create little moral relativists in their own iconoclastic self-image. And they’re robbing kids of great reading like Oliver Twist, Treasure Island and many others in the process.
How low will they go?
By the looks of things in Alsip, Illinois, they’re not going to bottom out anytime soon.
I think Davis read this book when he was in this district.
QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Aug 29 2007, 07:57 PM) [snapback]325050[/snapback]
I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that practically everybody can tell that you're a 'nobody', that you are, in fact, 'little people'.
And you're a "somebody?"
Whatever.QUOTE
The rest is a figment of your very fertile and probably amped imagination.
Projecting again?
QUOTE
It is clear to me that your observing 'equipment', that which you attempt to pass off as an actual brain, is in disrepair and is malfunctioning. So, your 'observations' are invariably faulty.
Look, you're the one who has changed radically, look at your political compass score.
You're on crack, dude.
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Aug 29 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]325055[/snapback]
It's a shame you can't make a good living working at McDonalds. Perhaps if Mr Bee also had a job, you all would be better off.
Beezer is a little person who lives in a little house in a little state and tries to come off as one of the "elite". It doesn't work.
As you're the one that's been bending over backwards to call me an East Coast elite for the last few years, it's obvious that you are on crack, too.
You and Nomarchy make a great pair. Both of your over large egos could use a little deflating. Obviously you two have a problem if you reaaaly find it so necessary to gratuitously verbally abuse me just because you don't like me treating you the way you treat everyone else.
Little men.
I could be vulgar like the two of you, or go after your family members,
I don't need to go that low. You guys can illustrate your own (lack of) quality far better than I can.
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Dave Barry On College
What's college all about
College is basically a bunch of rooms where you sit for roughly two thousand hours and try to memorize things. The two thousand hours are spread out over four years; you spend the rest of the time sleeping and trying to get dates.
Basically, you learn two kinds of things in college:
1. Things you will need to know in later life (two hours).
2. Things you will not need to know in later life (1,998 hours).
These are the things you learn in classes whose names end in -ology, -osophy, -istry, -ics, and so on. The idea is, you memorize these things, then write them down in little exam books, then forget them. If you fail to forget them, you become a professor and have to stay in college for the rest of your life.
It's very difficult to forget everything. For example, when I was in college, I had to memorize -- don't ask me why -- the names of three metaphysical poets other than John Donne. I have managed to forget one of them, but I still remember that the other two were named Vaughan and Crashaw. Sometimes, when I'm trying to remember something important like whether my wife told me to get tuna packed in oil or tuna packed in water, Vaughan and Crashaw just pop up in my mind, right there in the supermarket. It's a terrible waste of brain cells.
After you've been in college for a year or so, you're supposed to choose a major, which is the subject you intend to memorize and forget the most things about. Here is a very important piece of advice: be sure to choose a major that does not involve Known Facts and Right Answers. This means you must not major in mathematics, physics, biology, or chemistry, because these subjects involve actual facts. If, for example, you major in mathematics, you're going to wander into class one day and the professor will say: "Define the cosine integer of the quadrant of a rhomboid binary axis, and extrapolate your result to five significant vertices." If you don't come up with exactly the answer the professor has in mind, you fail. The same is true of chemistry: if you write in your exam book that carbon and hydrogen combine to form oak, your professor will flunk you. He wants you to come up with the same answer he and all the other chemists have agreed on.
Scientists are extremely snotty about this.
So you should major in subjects like English, philosophy, psychology, and sociology -- subjects in which nobody really understands what anybody else is talking about, and which involve virtually no actual facts. I attended classes in all these subjects, so I'll give you a quick overview of each:
ENGLISH: This involves writing papers about long books you have read little snippets of just before class. Here is a tip on how to get good grades on your English papers: Never say anything about a book that anybody with any common sense would say. For example, suppose you are studying Moby-Dick. Anybody with any common sense would say that Moby-Dick is a big white whale, since the characters in the book refer to it as a big white whale roughly eleven thousand times. So in your paper, you say Moby-Dick is actually the Republic of Ireland.
Your professor, who is sick to death of reading papers and never liked Moby-Dick anyway, will think you are enormously creative. If you can regularly come up with lunatic interpretations of simple stories, you should major in English.
PHILOSOPHY: Basically, this involves sitting in a room and deciding there is no such thing as reality and then going to lunch. You should major in philosophy if you plan to take a lot of drugs.
PSYCHOLOGY: This involves talking about rats and dreams. Psychologists are obsessed with rats and dreams. I once spent an entire semester training a rat to punch little buttons in a certain sequence, then training my roommate to do the same thing. The rat learned much faster. My roommate is now a doctor. If you like rats or dreams, and above all if you dream about rats, you should major in psychology.
SOCIOLOGY: For sheer lack of intelligibility, sociology is far and away the number one subject. I sat through hundreds of hours of sociology courses, and read gobs of sociology writing, and I never once heard or read a coherent statement. This is because sociologists want to be considered scientists, so they spend most of their time translating simple, obvious observations into scientific-sounding code. If you plan to major in sociology, you'll have to learn to do the same thing. For example, suppose you have observed that children cry when they fall down. You should write: "Methodological observation of the sociometrical behavior tendencies of prematurated isolates indicates that a casual relationship exists between groundward tropism and lachrimatory, or 'crying,' behavior forms." If you can keep this up for fifty or sixty pages, you will get a large government grant.
What's college all about
College is basically a bunch of rooms where you sit for roughly two thousand hours and try to memorize things. The two thousand hours are spread out over four years; you spend the rest of the time sleeping and trying to get dates.
Basically, you learn two kinds of things in college:
1. Things you will need to know in later life (two hours).
2. Things you will not need to know in later life (1,998 hours).
These are the things you learn in classes whose names end in -ology, -osophy, -istry, -ics, and so on. The idea is, you memorize these things, then write them down in little exam books, then forget them. If you fail to forget them, you become a professor and have to stay in college for the rest of your life.
It's very difficult to forget everything. For example, when I was in college, I had to memorize -- don't ask me why -- the names of three metaphysical poets other than John Donne. I have managed to forget one of them, but I still remember that the other two were named Vaughan and Crashaw. Sometimes, when I'm trying to remember something important like whether my wife told me to get tuna packed in oil or tuna packed in water, Vaughan and Crashaw just pop up in my mind, right there in the supermarket. It's a terrible waste of brain cells.
After you've been in college for a year or so, you're supposed to choose a major, which is the subject you intend to memorize and forget the most things about. Here is a very important piece of advice: be sure to choose a major that does not involve Known Facts and Right Answers. This means you must not major in mathematics, physics, biology, or chemistry, because these subjects involve actual facts. If, for example, you major in mathematics, you're going to wander into class one day and the professor will say: "Define the cosine integer of the quadrant of a rhomboid binary axis, and extrapolate your result to five significant vertices." If you don't come up with exactly the answer the professor has in mind, you fail. The same is true of chemistry: if you write in your exam book that carbon and hydrogen combine to form oak, your professor will flunk you. He wants you to come up with the same answer he and all the other chemists have agreed on.
Scientists are extremely snotty about this.
So you should major in subjects like English, philosophy, psychology, and sociology -- subjects in which nobody really understands what anybody else is talking about, and which involve virtually no actual facts. I attended classes in all these subjects, so I'll give you a quick overview of each:
ENGLISH: This involves writing papers about long books you have read little snippets of just before class. Here is a tip on how to get good grades on your English papers: Never say anything about a book that anybody with any common sense would say. For example, suppose you are studying Moby-Dick. Anybody with any common sense would say that Moby-Dick is a big white whale, since the characters in the book refer to it as a big white whale roughly eleven thousand times. So in your paper, you say Moby-Dick is actually the Republic of Ireland.
Your professor, who is sick to death of reading papers and never liked Moby-Dick anyway, will think you are enormously creative. If you can regularly come up with lunatic interpretations of simple stories, you should major in English.
PHILOSOPHY: Basically, this involves sitting in a room and deciding there is no such thing as reality and then going to lunch. You should major in philosophy if you plan to take a lot of drugs.
PSYCHOLOGY: This involves talking about rats and dreams. Psychologists are obsessed with rats and dreams. I once spent an entire semester training a rat to punch little buttons in a certain sequence, then training my roommate to do the same thing. The rat learned much faster. My roommate is now a doctor. If you like rats or dreams, and above all if you dream about rats, you should major in psychology.
SOCIOLOGY: For sheer lack of intelligibility, sociology is far and away the number one subject. I sat through hundreds of hours of sociology courses, and read gobs of sociology writing, and I never once heard or read a coherent statement. This is because sociologists want to be considered scientists, so they spend most of their time translating simple, obvious observations into scientific-sounding code. If you plan to major in sociology, you'll have to learn to do the same thing. For example, suppose you have observed that children cry when they fall down. You should write: "Methodological observation of the sociometrical behavior tendencies of prematurated isolates indicates that a casual relationship exists between groundward tropism and lachrimatory, or 'crying,' behavior forms." If you can keep this up for fifty or sixty pages, you will get a large government grant.
Nice to see I'm not the only one that's noticed.
come on bee, that is one gigantic pile of bullsheit.
QUOTE(Davis 2.0 @ Aug 30 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]325171[/snapback]
come on bee, that is one gigantic pile of bullsheit.
What? Dave Barry?
QUOTE(patheticJT @ Aug 29 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]325128[/snapback]
While liberals leap for joy over Larry Craig, they quietly carry out their indoctrination............
Illinois School Pushes Smut on Children
By Matt Barber
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Warning: Adult content.
Gotta have something to replace Huckleberry Finn.
QUOTE(Bee @ Aug 30 2007, 08:07 AM) [snapback]325173[/snapback]
What? Dave Barry?
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This is because sociologists want to be considered scientists, so they spend most of their time translating simple, obvious observations into scientific-sounding code.
It's a crock. So is what you're insinuating about nom. He is one of the most honesty members we have.
QUOTE(Davis 2.0 @ Aug 30 2007, 09:18 AM) [snapback]325177[/snapback]
It's a crock. So is what you're insinuating about nom. He is one of the most honesty members we have.
Dave Barry was a joke, and I'm afraid I disagree with you about Nomarchy. Unless you expect me to agree with the statement that I am a "useless farking ignorant twat."
Real honest.
Classy too.
Men.
Uhhh, exuce me? You expect me to ignore all you've said to him? I read both sides and you both go right for the throat. You are not innocent by any means.
Women.
Women.
Colo. School Bans Tag on Its Playground
Aug 30, 7:44 AM (ET)
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) - An elementary school has banned tag on its playground after some children complained they were harassed or chased against their will.
"It causes a lot of conflict on the playground," said Cindy Fesgen, assistant principal of the Discovery Canyon Campus school.
Running games are still allowed as long as students don't chase each other, she said.
Fesgen said two parents complained to her about the ban but most parents and children didn't object.
In 2005, two elementary schools in the nearby Falcon School District did away with tag and similar games in favor of alternatives with less physical contact. School officials said the move encouraged more students to play games and helped reduce playground squabbles.
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Information from: The Gazette, http://www.gazette.com/
The PCitis, HAU/BAF groups " along with the assistance of NEA, continue their attempt to destroy" our America as we knew it in our days of greatness before their attacks began in the 1960s and 1970s. They want a weak, vulnerable group of "sissy metrosexual men" who have no "will or guts" to fight and then the PCitis, HAU/BAF groups can accomplish their goals to change our nation.
Aug 30, 7:44 AM (ET)
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) - An elementary school has banned tag on its playground after some children complained they were harassed or chased against their will.
"It causes a lot of conflict on the playground," said Cindy Fesgen, assistant principal of the Discovery Canyon Campus school.
Running games are still allowed as long as students don't chase each other, she said.
Fesgen said two parents complained to her about the ban but most parents and children didn't object.
In 2005, two elementary schools in the nearby Falcon School District did away with tag and similar games in favor of alternatives with less physical contact. School officials said the move encouraged more students to play games and helped reduce playground squabbles.
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Information from: The Gazette, http://www.gazette.com/
The PCitis, HAU/BAF groups " along with the assistance of NEA, continue their attempt to destroy" our America as we knew it in our days of greatness before their attacks began in the 1960s and 1970s. They want a weak, vulnerable group of "sissy metrosexual men" who have no "will or guts" to fight and then the PCitis, HAU/BAF groups can accomplish their goals to change our nation.
QUOTE(Davis 2.0 @ Aug 30 2007, 09:31 AM) [snapback]325183[/snapback]
Uhhh, exuce me? You expect me to ignore all you've said to him? I read both sides and you both go right for the throat. You are not innocent by any means.
Women.
No, I don't expect you to forget I've called him an overbearing, over-educated moron. Sorry, but Nomarchy needed a little deflating, especially after he went after Bay and was so damn condescending. Like he's been to me and EVERYONE. He's hardly anything special in the brains department. He just likes to wrap everything in layer upon layer of unintelligble verbiage and in that instance, Barry is right on the money.
Let me know when I call him anything as remotely vile and low as a "useless farking twat." 'K?
You know, all the guys here really DO turn a blind eye on all the sexist CRAP that goes on. I'm sick of the farking double standard here. No wonder there aren't many women. That fact speaks for itself. Now that I've pointed out (again) WHY that is, maybe you can have a nice cup of STFU.
This place will be a "boys club" in no time.
What is rather funny is Katz came around here as Rotcod and actually complained that carol and judy were called "bitches" and "c-u-n-t-s" but does anyone complain when he and Nomarchy do the same to FJ or me?
The hypocrisy here is rather overbearing.
Yes it is.
By the way, I missed the twat comment because for the most part I stopped reading both of your attack posts.
By the way, I missed the twat comment because for the most part I stopped reading both of your attack posts.
Bee wants to be in the boys club. More penile envy on her part. So sad. 
QUOTE(Bee @ Aug 30 2007, 06:41 AM) [snapback]325187[/snapback]
No, I don't expect you to forget I've called him an overbearing, over-educated moron. Sorry, but Nomarchy needed a little deflating, especially after he went after Bay and was so damn condescending. Like he's been to me and EVERYONE. He's hardly anything special in the brains department. He just likes to wrap everything in layer upon layer of unintelligble verbiage and in that instance, Barry is right on the money.
Let me know when I call him anything as remotely vile and low as a "useless farking twat." 'K?
You know, all the guys here really DO turn a blind eye on all the sexist CRAP that goes on. I'm sick of the farking double standard here. No wonder there aren't many women. That fact speaks for itself. Now that I've pointed out (again) WHY that is, maybe you can have a nice cup of STFU.
This place will be a "boys club" in no time.
What is rather funny is Katz came around here as Rotcod and actually complained that carol and judy were called "bitches" and "c-u-n-t-s" but does anyone complain when he and Nomarchy do the same to FJ or me?
The hypocrisy here is rather overbearing.
Just out of curiosity, why do you assume you have deflated nomarchy? Declaration?
QUOTE(beasty @ Aug 29 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]325004[/snapback]
QUOTE(Bee @ Aug 29 2007, 12:13 PM)
It's not all or nothing, however. Most people are willing to help the less fortunate in this country, and majority still carries weight.
Most are, but then what counts as less fortunate matters. Are kids too lazy to even graduate high school and get a job less fortunate, or is it always somebody else's fault. The teachers, the department of education, George Bush. How much help am I supposed to pay for?
I genuinely think Little Bee does not understand that people rise to their [individual] level of competence (specific range of skill, knowledge, or ability and ambition). She desires a system where everyone is "equally distributed/awarded" a "living wage or dole" and we all live happily ever after on the same level and , of course, no rewards for those who are outstanding leaders and producers. She has a very "kind heart" which hinders "her concept" of natural human conduct. I continue to push the theory that so many "good people" like Little Bee, do not, indeed, understand the way the "real world works"; something I've tried to teach my entire life.
what's this "little bee" CRAP?
gigantic lord poopwriter
gigantic lord poopwriter
QUOTE(Davis 2.0 @ Aug 30 2007, 01:31 PM) [snapback]325183[/snapback]
Uhhh, exuce me? You expect me to ignore all you've said to him? I read both sides and you both go right for the throat. You are not innocent by any means.
Women.
Check out mister referee on going for the throat................
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
QUOTE(Davis 2.0 @ Aug 30 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]325183[/snapback]
Uhhh, exuce me? You expect me to ignore all you've said to him? I read both sides and you both go right for the throat. You are not innocent by any means.
I'm sure when election time rolls around again the team will unite for the good of the cause. Dave Barry is just satire. I doubt he said anything that people haven't said before.
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Aug 30 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]325196[/snapback]
Just out of curiosity, why do you assume you have deflated nomarchy? Declaration?
'Twas a mere prick by the stinger.
The world is full of pricks, might as well get used to it.
QUOTE(Bee @ Aug 30 2007, 06:27 AM) [snapback]325181[/snapback]
Dave Barry was a joke, and I'm afraid I disagree with you about Nomarchy. Unless you expect me to agree with the statement that I am a "useless farking ignorant twat."
Real honest.
Classy too.
Men.
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if you reaaaly find it so necessary to gratuitously verbally abuse me just because you don't like me treating you the way you treat everyone else.
Little men.
I could be vulgar like the two of you, or go after your family members,
Little men.
I could be vulgar like the two of you, or go after your family members,
I am sure you can demonstrate that it was "gratuitous".
Never ever ever ever have I attacked you on the basis of your profession, the place of your residence, your heritage, nor have I attacked your family members.
You have always been the one to attack first. And, if anyone should not be talking of others having an 'inflated ego' it should be you.
You have consistently gone the low road in debate. You have earned every single one of my 'verbal' abuses.
QUOTE(patheticJT @ Aug 30 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]325202[/snapback]
Check out mister referee on going for the throat................
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What throat, malaka? How did he take sides? He took bee's side, sorta, a couple of days ago.
Leave davis alone. He's trying to do the right thing.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Aug 30 2007, 08:13 AM) [snapback]325205[/snapback]
I'm sure when election time rolls around again the team will unite for the good of the cause. Dave Barry is just satire. I doubt he said anything that people haven't said before.
On the basis of WHAT can you say that "you're sure"? How exactly did bee and form a 'team' and 'unite for the good of the cause' last time around, or the time before that?
She was attacking Nader like he was the devil. She was being a 'good soldier' for the Democratic Party. When have I ever 'united' with THAT?
QUOTE(Bee @ Aug 30 2007, 06:41 AM) [snapback]325187[/snapback]
No, I don't expect you to forget I've called him an overbearing, over-educated moron. Sorry, but Nomarchy needed a little deflating, especially after he went after Bay and was so damn condescending. Like he's been to me and EVERYONE. He's hardly anything special in the brains department. He just likes to wrap everything in layer upon layer of unintelligble verbiage and in that instance, Barry is right on the money.
Let me know when I call him anything as remotely vile and low as a "useless farking twat." 'K?
You know, all the guys here really DO turn a blind eye on all the sexist CRAP that goes on. I'm sick of the farking double standard here. No wonder there aren't many women. That fact speaks for itself. Now that I've pointed out (again) WHY that is, maybe you can have a nice cup of STFU.
This place will be a "boys club" in no time.
What is rather funny is Katz came around here as Rotcod and actually complained that carol and judy were called "bitches" and "c-u-n-t-s" but does anyone complain when he and Nomarchy do the same to FJ or me?
The hypocrisy here is rather overbearing.
fark you. And you should take that as a 'good wish'.
You are a useless farking twat and a shrill, psychotic bitch. Nothing 'sexist' about all that. I can call you a stupid, farking dick if you feel like it. It's not on account of you being a woman, your profession, your ethnic heritage or your residence that you are the piece of poopy human being that you are. It's all YOU, individually and singly.
You defending bay from me is fresh. bay can eat both of us alive, so to speak.
What the fark are you talking about FJ? I'd like FJ to come out and say that I've gratuitously and excessively 'verbally abused' her in a sexist fashion.
Your problem is that you are incapable of actually debating. You don't know when to declare victory and move on (and actually MOVE ON) and when to figure out that you've lost a particular battle.
You're more like an adolescent boy than I have ever been in terms of impetuousness and sheer obstinance. You have ZERO self-control and are impulsive.
QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Aug 30 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]325219[/snapback]
On the basis of WHAT can you say that "you're sure"? How exactly did bee and form a 'team' and 'unite for the good of the cause' last time around, or the time before that?
She was attacking Nader like he was the devil. She was being a 'good soldier' for the Democratic Party. When have I ever 'united' with THAT?
Because I've seen what happens when lefties get a figure like Bush to unite against. On the plus side if the left doen't unite they'll probably allow another Rep into the White House in the next election.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Aug 30 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]325231[/snapback]
Because I've seen what happens when lefties get a figure like Bush to unite against. On the plus side if the left doen't unite they'll probably allow another Rep into the White House in the next election.
That's not relevant. You claimed that you were sure that come election time Bee and I would unite around the cause. I disputed your claim on the basis of repeated past experience.
Why Republicans, moderates, and other assorted righties feel the need to comment on any kind of conflict, disagreement, flame-war etc. among and between what you all call 'libs' and lefties is not exactly clear.
QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Aug 30 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]325232[/snapback]
That's not relevant. You claimed that you were sure that come election time Bee and I would unite around the cause. I disputed your claim on the basis of repeated past experience.
Why Republicans, moderates, and other assorted righties feel the need to comment on any kind of conflict, disagreement, flame-war etc. among and between what you all call 'libs' and lefties is not exactly clear.
I should have kept to my word not to converse with you at all.....
Carry on.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Aug 30 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]325238[/snapback]
I should have kept to my word not to converse with you at all.....
Carry on.
I should have kept my word to place Bee on ignore and not 'peek'. Now, on top of our usual squabbles, you and I have this lovely little matter to 'fight' over. Splendid.
QUOTE(Lord_Proprietor @ Aug 30 2007, 09:41 AM) [snapback]325186[/snapback]
Colo. School Bans Tag on Its Playground
I saw that too, but really couldn't accept the rational for it. Then again, I loved War Ball. Of course, it's only one school. To each their own.
QUOTE(Innocent @ Aug 30 2007, 08:15 PM) [snapback]325351[/snapback]
I saw that too, but really couldn't accept the rational for it. Then again, I loved War Ball. Of course, it's only one school. To each their own.
I heard tag had been banned for years in Mass. Schools.
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Aug 31 2007, 03:12 AM) [snapback]325381[/snapback]
I heard tag had been banned for years in Mass. Schools.
QUOTE(patheticJT @ Aug 30 2007, 10:26 PM) [snapback]325384[/snapback]
True story.
QUOTE(Innocent @ Aug 30 2007, 06:15 PM) [snapback]325351[/snapback]
I saw that too, but really couldn't accept the rational for it. Then again, I loved War Ball. Of course, it's only one school. To each their own.
My best friend wound up with a pin in his little finger from dodgeball. It was accepted kids would get hurt. Now they just sit around getting fat and end up diabetic at 15. I think the little scrapes were better than kids that are out of shape at 10 because they aren't allowed to do anything physical at recess.
QUOTE(Innocent @ Aug 30 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]325351[/snapback]
I saw that too, but really couldn't accept the rational for it. Then again, I loved War Ball. Of course, it's only one school. To each their own.
I was a dodge ball king.
QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Aug 30 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]325219[/snapback]
I am sure you can demonstrate that it was "gratuitous".
Never ever ever ever have I attacked you on the basis of your profession, the place of your residence, your heritage, nor have I attacked your family members.
You have always been the one to attack first.
No. You did. Katz has attacked my family members several times. You know, your buddy, katz.
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And, if anyone should not be talking of others having an 'inflated ego' it should be you.
You're delusional.
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You have consistently gone the low road in debate. You have earned every single one of my 'verbal' abuses.
I merely throw back your own attitude at you. You don't like it when people tell you you don't know your ass from your elbow. As for the Low road, I'll never go as low as you have.
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fark you. And you should take that as a 'good wish'.
You are a useless farking twat and a shrill, psychotic bitch. Nothing 'sexist' about all that. I can call you a stupid, farking dick if you feel like it. It's not on account of you being a woman, your profession, your ethnic heritage or your residence that you are the piece of poopy human being that you are. It's all YOU, individually and singly.
You are a useless farking twat and a shrill, psychotic bitch. Nothing 'sexist' about all that. I can call you a stupid, farking dick if you feel like it. It's not on account of you being a woman, your profession, your ethnic heritage or your residence that you are the piece of poopy human being that you are. It's all YOU, individually and singly.
Case in point.
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You defending bay from me is fresh. bay can eat both of us alive, so to speak.
That's probably why you are so mean to her.
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What the fark are you talking about FJ? I'd like FJ to come out and say that I've gratuitously and excessively 'verbally abused' her in a sexist fashion.
Give it time, you are more like Katz everyday, and I was refering to both of you. You've certainly told her she doesn't know what she's tlking about in a nasty fashion when you're the one that was clueless.
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Your problem is that you are incapable of actually debating. You don't know when to declare victory and move on (and actually MOVE ON) and when to figure out that you've lost a particular battle.
You're more like an adolescent boy than I have ever been in terms of impetuousness and sheer obstinance. You have ZERO self-control and are impulsive.
You're more like an adolescent boy than I have ever been in terms of impetuousness and sheer obstinance. You have ZERO self-control and are impulsive.
You really shouldn't project so much, it makes you look like an immature, poor sport.
Have a nice day.
farkoff
farkoff.
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Aug 31 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]325424[/snapback]
I was a dodge ball king.
I was only a Prince - usually one of three left at the end.
I was short and hard to hit.
QUOTE(Innocent @ Aug 31 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]325511[/snapback]
I was only a Prince - usually one of three left at the end.
I was last one left several times... moving like poetry through blazing dodgeballs... ahh, those were the days.
QUOTE(Davis 2.0 @ Aug 31 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]325555[/snapback]
I was short and hard to hit.
I was short also.
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Aug 31 2007, 06:29 AM) [snapback]325424[/snapback]
I was a dodge ball king.
Heh, last day of school and the big final dodgeball game. Down to me and the best athlete in school. Teacher called the game a tie. I always had to wonder if I had a chance. Maybe the teacher (my favorite ever) was trying to save me from defeat. Still I was bummed we didn't play it out.
Thursday, August 30, 2007
"Black Flight" and the Plantation Mentality
Posted by: Michael Medved at 3:31 PM
The city of San Francisco has brought together an urgent new task force to devise strategies for combating the problem of “black flight” – the falling number of city residents who identify as African American. Many major cities-- including Houston, Seattle, Los Angeles, and even Washington,.DC—have seen dramatic reductions in the percentage of black residents. While urban leaders told a hand-wringing reporter from USA Today that this “crisis” demands action, there ought to be wide spread celebration of the new mobility among people of color. The national black population continues to grow, but more and more African Americans choose to move out of the inner city and into the suburbs. This is actually an indication of economic progress, and a sign that housing discrimination no longer locks black people into over-crowded urban neighborhoods. In the name of diversity, bureaucrats in San Francisco and elsewhere want to keep citizens trapped in cities they prefer to leave, thereby demonstrating the ultimate plantation mentality.
"Black Flight" and the Plantation Mentality
Posted by: Michael Medved at 3:31 PM
The city of San Francisco has brought together an urgent new task force to devise strategies for combating the problem of “black flight” – the falling number of city residents who identify as African American. Many major cities-- including Houston, Seattle, Los Angeles, and even Washington,.DC—have seen dramatic reductions in the percentage of black residents. While urban leaders told a hand-wringing reporter from USA Today that this “crisis” demands action, there ought to be wide spread celebration of the new mobility among people of color. The national black population continues to grow, but more and more African Americans choose to move out of the inner city and into the suburbs. This is actually an indication of economic progress, and a sign that housing discrimination no longer locks black people into over-crowded urban neighborhoods. In the name of diversity, bureaucrats in San Francisco and elsewhere want to keep citizens trapped in cities they prefer to leave, thereby demonstrating the ultimate plantation mentality.
What utter BS
San Francisco isn't exactly a "cheap" area, and as far as I know has no "slums" or Black neighborhoods. (They're across the Bay in Oakland).
In the name of diversity, bureaucrats in San Francisco and elsewhere want to keep citizens trapped in cities they prefer to leave, thereby demonstrating the ultimate plantation mentality.
They want to develop affordable housing. Michael Medved is a moron.
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Large losses for African American households
Examining income changes for different ethnicities reveal important disparities in economic outcomes. African Americans, whose median household income was unchanged last year (up a statistically insignificant 0.3%), have experienced particularly large losses since 2000 (see Figure 3), posting a loss of 8%, or about $2,800.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/webfeatures..._income20070828
Examining income changes for different ethnicities reveal important disparities in economic outcomes. African Americans, whose median household income was unchanged last year (up a statistically insignificant 0.3%), have experienced particularly large losses since 2000 (see Figure 3), posting a loss of 8%, or about $2,800.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/webfeatures..._income20070828
San Francisco isn't exactly a "cheap" area, and as far as I know has no "slums" or Black neighborhoods. (They're across the Bay in Oakland).
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In the name of diversity, bureaucrats in San Francisco and elsewhere want to keep citizens trapped in cities they prefer to leave, thereby demonstrating the ultimate plantation mentality.
They want to develop affordable housing. Michael Medved is a moron.
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thereby demonstrating the ultimate plantation mentality.
How about that corporate plantation you lowlife mofo?
QUOTE(Bee @ Sep 1 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]325632[/snapback]
What utter BS
San Francisco isn't exactly a "cheap" area, and as far as I know has no "slums" or Black neighborhoods. (They're across the Bay in Oakland).
They want to develop affordable housing. Michael Medved is a moron.
So actually the most progressive city in the land has segregated the blacks to oakland?
An unenlightened truth of the western mecca, still ahving a segregated town, you would think leftys would be providing the moral outcry..........if they had any.
QUOTE(patheticJT @ Sep 1 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]325643[/snapback]
So actually the most progressive city in the land has segregated the blacks to oakland?
An unenlightened truth of the western mecca, still ahving a segregated town, you would think leftys would be providing the moral outcry..........if they had any.
Not exactly, JT. Black familes were as integrated as any group in San Francisco. If they're leaving because of financial concerns, that is a problem.
The only ethnic neighborhoods in San Francisco are Chinatown, and a bit of the Sunset District that has a large Irish population. The closest thing to a slum in that city is the Tenderloin, and that has cleaned up quite a bit, which is WHY the low rents have gone up there.
Besides, bashing San Francisco doesn't take away from the FACT that Medved is full of crap.
QUOTE(Davis 2.0 @ Aug 31 2007, 05:57 PM) [snapback]325555[/snapback]
I was short and hard to hit.
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Aug 31 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]325606[/snapback]
I was short also.
Was short?
I grew almost 5" after highschool. I was at my studio downtown and a guy came in who I went to school with. He exclamed "You grew up!" and we both laughed. But in dogeball being small and quick can be an asset. Poor Rusty must have been 6' 3" and a little heavy. he was easy to hit. <shakes head>
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