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Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Aug 15 2006, 08:47 AM) [snapback]230747[/snapback]
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This is listed on ebay for $350. The thermos doesn't even have a lid. I have the exact same one on my bookshelf.


My mom scratched my name in the top so it's a tenth the value.


Not that I'd get rid of my Bears lunchbox.


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I own part of a collection, and in general collectibles go up faster than the stock market if you know what to buy. (I don't, but my partner does) I'd sell it in a flash, but it's probably just getting more valuable. Missing an original piece usually hurts, but if it doesn't show it might not be too bad.

Even $50 or $77 wouldn't be bad for what it originally cost.
davis¹³
I carried that one to grade school. It's not going anywhere. However, if I saw one at a garage sale ...
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Aug 15 2006, 09:08 AM) [snapback]230766[/snapback]
I carried that one to grade school. It's not going anywhere. However, if I saw one at a garage sale ...


It's probably hard to find them anywhere cheap around there. But you never know. My friend searches the swap meet and finds things like that for almost nothing now and then.
roserose
QUOTE(judy @ Aug 14 2006, 10:39 PM) [snapback]230651[/snapback]

Anti-Tailgating Plan Snarls Traffic


LACEY, Wash. (AP) -- An anti-tailgating strategy on Interstate 5 backfired in the form of unexpected traffic jams, state transportation officials have discovered.

Officials from the state Transportation Department and Washington State Patrol planned to meet Monday to reassess the $35,000 Two Dots To Safety pilot program on a two-mile stretch of the freeway north of this Thurston County town. Similar programs are in use in Maryland, Minnesota and Pennsylvania.

Road crews painted dots 80 feet apart and posted signs telling drivers to stay at least two dots - 160 feet - from the vehicle ahead, based on the traffic safety principle of being at least two seconds behind another vehicle when going 60 mph.

Long backups developed Saturday, the day after the program began, when drivers slowed down because of heavy traffic and continued to maintain the two-dot separation, although that much distance was not necessary at slower speeds, said Lisa Mordock, a Transportation Department spokeswoman.


Road crews covered the signs later Saturday pending reconsideration of the program, including the wording on the signs, Mordock said.

Unintended consequences...


Predictable rubber-neck slinky effect initially caused by some old fart who had, hours earlier, applied brakes to slow vehicle to read instructional signs thus causing some alarm to following drivers who also applied brakes and the damned reaction just goes exponential over time. I see it ever day. rolleyes.gif
judy
QUOTE(roserose @ Aug 15 2006, 12:27 PM) [snapback]230781[/snapback]

Predictable rubber-neck slinky effect initially caused by some old fart who had, hours earlier, applied brakes to slow vehicle to read instructional signs thus causing some alarm to following drivers who also applied brakes and the damned reaction just goes exponential over time. I see it ever day. rolleyes.gif


Which in turn leads to the "Gaper's Notch" in the opposite lanes.
davis¹³
Glad I don't live near a major metropolitain area.


I think we're down to 100,000 in the area.
judy
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Aug 15 2006, 12:34 PM) [snapback]230786[/snapback]

Glad I don't live near a major metropolitain area.

Sounds like a "Win-win" situation for all concerned.
beasty
The law of unintended consequences strikes again.
Friend Judy
I have a friend who makes a pretty good living handling estates--the sorting and packing and disposing of stuff--for a share of what's found. She specializes in those pack-rat type homes someone's lived in for 50 years or so. (She says it's particularly amazing what old Pez dispensers are worth, and how many of them you find in houses like that.)

Me, I'm not into collectibles, just packratting nails and tools and spare hinges and stuff. And kitchen widgets--garlic presses and lemon graters and stuff. But all that's for using, not just saving.
judy
PONDERISMS

I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die what of natural causes.

Gardening Rule: When weeding, the best way to make sure you are removing a weed and not a valuable plant is to pull on it. If it comes out of the ground easily, it is a valuable plant.

The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement.

Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

There are two kinds of pedestrians: the quick and the dead.

Life is sexually transmitted.

Some people are like Slinkies. Not really good for anything, but you stil can't help but smile when you see 'em tumble down the stairs.

Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing.

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

How is it one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?

Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out?"

Who was the first person to say, "See that chicken there? I'm gonna eat the next thing that comes outta its butt."


If Jimmy cracks corn and no one cares, why is there a song about Him?

Why do people point to their wrist when asking for the time, but don't point to their crotch when they ask where the bathroom is?

Why does your OB-GYN leave the room when you get undressed if They are going
to look up there anyway?

If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests?

If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

Do illiterate people get the full effect of Alphabet Soup?

Did you ever notice that when you blow in a dog's face, he doesn't like it, but when you take him on a car ride, he sticks his head out the window?

Does pushing the elevator button more than once make it arrive faster?

Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of the bottle?

davis¹³
Kansas City at N.Y. Giants 8:00 p.m. (FOX)
judy
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Aug 17 2006, 04:00 PM) [snapback]231531[/snapback]

Kansas City at N.Y. Giants 8:00 p.m. (FOX)

TMI
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE(judy @ Aug 17 2006, 03:05 PM) [snapback]231534[/snapback]

TMI

Depends on your point of view.
judy
QUOTE(SpaceCowboy @ Aug 17 2006, 04:41 PM) [snapback]231548[/snapback]

Depends on your point of view.


Don't have time for it... have to read all my bookmarks... cool.gif
roserose
QUOTE(judy @ Aug 17 2006, 03:05 PM) [snapback]231534[/snapback]

TMI


NEVER TMI. Loud fast rules. And about that glue thingee... Greeks got jars of honey they swear is still fresh.
judy
QUOTE(roserose @ Aug 17 2006, 04:52 PM) [snapback]231553[/snapback]

NEVER TMI. Loud fast rules. And about that glue thingee... Greeks got jars of honey they swear is still fresh.


Honey is the only food that doesn't spoil.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(Friend Judy @ Aug 15 2006, 10:37 AM) [snapback]230823[/snapback]
I have a friend who makes a pretty good living handling estates--the sorting and packing and disposing of stuff--for a share of what's found. She specializes in those pack-rat type homes someone's lived in for 50 years or so. (She says it's particularly amazing what old Pez dispensers are worth, and how many of them you find in houses like that.)

Me, I'm not into collectibles, just packratting nails and tools and spare hinges and stuff. And kitchen widgets--garlic presses and lemon graters and stuff. But all that's for using, not just saving.



Find one good thing and you can retire. I'm not into collecting, but my friend has done ok at it, and gets some pleasure out of it. I don't buy toys I can't play with.
Bart Katz
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Arturo_Vandelay
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SpaceCowboy
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Aug 19 2006, 10:35 AM) [snapback]232084[/snapback]

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I just knew he'd be a kitten eater.

The bastidge.
Arturo_Vandelay
He's just getting ready to carry it home like it's mommy would.
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Aug 19 2006, 01:25 PM) [snapback]232121[/snapback]

He's just getting ready to carry it home like it's mommy would.

Oh.

My bad. laugh.gif
SpaceCowboy
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Possible avatar material.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(SpaceCowboy @ Aug 19 2006, 08:59 PM) [snapback]232223[/snapback]

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Possible avatar material.


She's having a blast. smile.gif
Tom Servo
Straight from General Ripper's toybox!!

Actually has 8 "real turbines" at about $1500 each.

Unbelievable that someone would make this - all real turbines!

That's $12,000 just for the engines!

It took over 2 years to build; it has a wing span of about 22 feet,
and t akes multiple pilots - as there are so many things to control.

Think they were nervous during the maiden flight?

Check out the movie link below to see the first flight. AMAZING!!

http://www.mcgirt.net/RC/VIDEOS/Giant_B52/B52_flight2.wmv
Arturo_Vandelay
Holy Shiite. I wonder why they didn't make a Brit bomber instead?

I bet you could scare people good with that thing.

Nice landing too.
beasty
Wild toy. Wish I could afford one.
Tom Servo
Probably one big fuel tank, like the real thing. Speaking of which, wingtip tanks are conspicuously absent.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(Tom Servo @ Aug 22 2006, 08:49 AM) [snapback]232940[/snapback]
Probably one big fuel tank, like the real thing. Speaking of which, wingtip tanks are conspicuously absent.


And I note some training wheels, but I can't blame them.
beasty
It's time to get to work on a miniature SAM site. I know just the guys to do it too.
Tom Servo
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Aug 22 2006, 10:50 AM) [snapback]232941[/snapback]


And I note some training wheels, but I can't blame them.
All B-52s had those wheels. They held up the wingtips when the plane was full of fuel.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(Tom Servo @ Aug 22 2006, 09:04 AM) [snapback]232947[/snapback]
All B-52s had those wheels. They held up the wingtips when the plane was full of fuel.


Interesting. I've only seen mothballed ones in years. I don't think they have the wheels on, but I may have missed it.
Tom Servo
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Here's an H model where the outrigger wheels are clearly visible.
Arturo_Vandelay
Everything here is stripped down. Maybe without the weight they don't worry about the wheels. Next time I'm near the base I'll try and check it out.
davis¹³
I've never noticed them.
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Friend Judy
I think U-2s had little training wheels on the ends of the wings that dropped off on takeoff. I'll have to ask Bill.
Arturo_Vandelay
If they're important for wings carrying a full fuel load, dropping off would make a go-around dangerous.
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Aug 22 2006, 12:23 PM) [snapback]232976[/snapback]

If they're important for wings carrying a full fuel load, dropping off would make a go-around dangerous.

I think Judy is correct about that. They did drop off as there was no place for them to retract into.
Friend Judy
I'm looking at Bill's fancy photo on the wall. It's in flight, but I see some sort of skid on the wingtips for landing. That matches what Bill said once about them supposed to tip onto their wing at then end of a landing. (And that they land very slow, so that's not as bad as it sounds.)
CharlieRay
QUOTE(Tom Servo @ Aug 22 2006, 09:39 AM) [snapback]232936[/snapback]

Straight from General Ripper's toybox!!

Actually has 8 "real turbines" at about $1500 each.

Unbelievable that someone would make this - all real turbines!

That's $12,000 just for the engines!

It took over 2 years to build; it has a wing span of about 22 feet,
and t akes multiple pilots - as there are so many things to control.

Think they were nervous during the maiden flight?

Check out the movie link below to see the first flight. AMAZING!!

http://www.mcgirt.net/RC/VIDEOS/Giant_B52/B52_flight2.wmv


I posted that video some time ago regarding 9-11 and how I thought it a good idea to recreate the incident(to scale:~) and jUSt see if the towers actually collapse or not... as if knowing the truth would be important to anyone. rolleyes.gif
Repub_Bub
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Aug 22 2006, 03:35 PM) [snapback]233034[/snapback]

I posted that video some time ago regarding 9-11 and how I thought it a good idea to recreate the incident(to scale:~) and jUSt see if the towers actually collapse or not... as if knowing the truth would be important to anyone. rolleyes.gif

So, if they don't collapse then the truth would be that the originals are still there?
CharlieRay
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Aug 22 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]233035[/snapback]

So, if they don't collapse then the truth would be that the originals are still there?


Do you really think that warrants a response?
Repub_Bub
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Aug 22 2006, 03:41 PM) [snapback]233036[/snapback]

Do you really think that warrants a response?

I guess a better approach would be watchin instant replays and see what changes.
judy
Cat-killing raccoons on prowl

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By STEVE POWELL

The Olympian

OLYMPIA - Raccoons are cute, until they kill one of your cats.

That is what a west Olympia neighborhood is learning this summer.

Raccoons have killed about 10 cats in a three-block area near the Garfield Nature Trail at Harrison Avenue West and Foote Street Southwest.

Problem wildlife coordinator Sean Carrell of the state Department of Fish and Wildlife called the situation "bizarre, weird."

"I've never heard a report of 10 cats being killed. It's something we're going to have to monitor," he said. He added that they may have to bring in trappers from the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

The problem got so bad that residents Kari Hall and Tamara Keeton even started a Raccoon Watch after having an emotional neighborhood meeting attended by about 40 people.

"It was a place for people to mourn and cry," Hall said.

At the meeting, they encouraged people to stop feeding the raccoons. They also decided to keep their pets and pet food inside. And they decided to carry pepper spray to drive off raccoons that attack again.

Keeton and Pam Corwin have decided to have "cat coops" built so their pets can go outside and have some room to roam, with protection.

It's not just cats being attacked. Five raccoons actually ganged up on and carried off a little dog, who survived.

One thing that makes these raccoons scary is they have no fear. One neighbor threw firecrackers at them to try to scare them off, and it didn't even bug them, Hall said.

"It's a new breed," Keeton said. "They're urban raccoons, and they're not afraid."

"There's one really big bad dude," she added.

"He was the biggest raccoon I've ever seen. He was a monster," added Tony Benjamins, whose family has had two cats killed.

The raccoons are so bold they bit Lisann Rolle when she tried to fling three of them off of her cat, Lucy.

"I was watching her like a hawk, but she snuck out," Rolle said of Lucy. "Then I heard this hideous sound - a coyote-type high pitch ...

"It was vicious. They were focused on ripping her apart."

Lucy had been a member of the family for seven years. Rolle received rabies shots as a precaution.

Rolle still gets upset talking about it.

"I'm afraid of them," she said of the raccoons. "I carry an iron pipe with me" when I go out at night, she added.


'They were so cute'

Kim and Tony Benjamins are still mourning the killing of their favorite cat, Novalee. She was ripped to pieces, and it was hard to identify her.

"I see Kim sit by Novalee's grave in their front yard every day ... talking or just being with her kitty," Keeton said.

Tony Benjamins said that in previous years, raccoons would come within 5 feet of cats with no problems.

"We used to love the raccoons. They'd have their babies this time of year, and they were so cute. Even though we lived in the city, it was neat to have wildlife around."

But this year, things changed.

"They went nuts," he said of raccoons. "We got a dog" - a German shepherd-Rottweiler mix - to scare them away.

Hall, her husband and a neighbor actually helped save one cat's life.

"We were right there trying to get him off the cat," she said. "The cat was screaming, and the raccoon was ferocious. My husband and a neighbor grabbed a shovel and a bat, and they were waving them until it took off. It was scary."

She said she doesn't know whether neighbor Kathy Wood's cat, Sweetie, will recover.

One thing that also saved Sweetie's life is she's overweight.

"It couldn't pull Sweetie under the deck. But it pulled so hard it hurt her internal organs," Hall said.

The neighbors hired trapper Tom Brown, a nuisance wildlife control operator from Rochester.

Brown said of the raccoons, "They are in command up there."

He said he's seen packs this big, but none so into killing. There was one in Rochester that killed a peacock last winter and another in Grand Mound that killed three chickens. But nothing like this.

Brown said there is an overabundance of food in the area with many fruit trees.

"And the good folks feed them. They're cute as a bug's ear," he said, adding, "I wouldn't mind being a raccoon up there."

Normally, Brown said, he can fix a problem in a few weeks, but he has set traps there for six weeks and caught only one.

"It was with sardines and cat food," he said. "For bait, I use what they've been feeding them."

Brown said he hasn't trapped more because raccoons are intelligent. They teach their young, the same as beavers do. He said one big male boar is the main killer, and he's tasted blood, and he wants more. He's usually helped by one or two others.

"The boar's likely been in a live trap before," Brown said.

Carrell added: "It's highly unlikely you will ever trap him again, and he'll teach the others to stay away."

Brown said he's going to back off for a while until the food supply dries up.

"Then they'll be a little less persnickity," Brown said.

He said his goal is to make them feel uncomfortable. Until that happens, they aren't likely to leave.

"We have our favorite restaurants; they have their favorite routes," he said.


'It's like a freeway'

Keeton said the raccoons travel their route so often they've worn a path.

"It's like a freeway in the back yard," she said. "It's like clockwork. They come between 9 and 9:30 every night."

Corwin said the raccoons are brave.

"They come on my deck and beg for food at my window," Corwin said.

Keeton said she's lived in the area for six years and never seen anything like this. She said Fish and Wildlife, the city of Olympia and animal control ­- nobody has any answers on why this is happening.

But Carrell said: "I talk to people until I'm blue in the face - do not feed cats and dogs outside."

Donny Martorello, also of Fish and Wildlife, said if people don't feed raccoons, or any wildlife, there won't be a problem.

"Raccoons adapt really well living in suburban environments," Martorello said.

Keeton said she knows people have invaded the raccoons' territory, but Hall added they have coexisted peacefully for a long time.

"You've got to watch which ones are bad," Hall said. "It's not all of them. We just have to arm ourselves with pepper spray."

Keeton added: "It may sound silly, but a lot of the people here truly feel scared and terrorized."
http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a.../NEWS/608210327


Tips on keeping raccoons away
    Don't feed them.

    Don't leave any food out that they can get to.

    Clean your grill. The odor can attract them.

    Don't put your trash can out where they can get to it.

    Keep your lights on. Raccoons like to avoid being seen.

    Keep gates closed to make it harder for them to get close to the house.


Source: Donny Martorello, state Department of Fish and Wildlife

Carol
QUOTE(judy @ Aug 22 2006, 08:42 PM) [snapback]233144[/snapback]
Cat-killing raccoons on prowl

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By STEVE POWELL

The Olympian

OLYMPIA - Raccoons are cute, until they kill one of your cats.

That is what a west Olympia neighborhood is learning this summer.

Raccoons have killed about 10 cats in a three-block area near the Garfield Nature Trail at Harrison Avenue West and Foote Street Southwest.

Problem wildlife coordinator Sean Carrell of the state Department of Fish and Wildlife called the situation "bizarre, weird."

"I've never heard a report of 10 cats being killed. It's something we're going to have to monitor," he said. He added that they may have to bring in trappers from the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

The problem got so bad that residents Kari Hall and Tamara Keeton even started a Raccoon Watch after having an emotional neighborhood meeting attended by about 40 people.

"It was a place for people to mourn and cry," Hall said.

At the meeting, they encouraged people to stop feeding the raccoons. They also decided to keep their pets and pet food inside. And they decided to carry pepper spray to drive off raccoons that attack again.

Keeton and Pam Corwin have decided to have "cat coops" built so their pets can go outside and have some room to roam, with protection.

It's not just cats being attacked. Five raccoons actually ganged up on and carried off a little dog, who survived.

One thing that makes these raccoons scary is they have no fear. One neighbor threw firecrackers at them to try to scare them off, and it didn't even bug them, Hall said.

"It's a new breed," Keeton said. "They're urban raccoons, and they're not afraid."

"There's one really big bad dude," she added.

"He was the biggest raccoon I've ever seen. He was a monster," added Tony Benjamins, whose family has had two cats killed.

The raccoons are so bold they bit Lisann Rolle when she tried to fling three of them off of her cat, Lucy.

"I was watching her like a hawk, but she snuck out," Rolle said of Lucy. "Then I heard this hideous sound - a coyote-type high pitch ...

"It was vicious. They were focused on ripping her apart."

Lucy had been a member of the family for seven years. Rolle received rabies shots as a precaution.

Rolle still gets upset talking about it.

"I'm afraid of them," she said of the raccoons. "I carry an iron pipe with me" when I go out at night, she added.


'They were so cute'

Kim and Tony Benjamins are still mourning the killing of their favorite cat, Novalee. She was ripped to pieces, and it was hard to identify her.

"I see Kim sit by Novalee's grave in their front yard every day ... talking or just being with her kitty," Keeton said.

Tony Benjamins said that in previous years, raccoons would come within 5 feet of cats with no problems.

"We used to love the raccoons. They'd have their babies this time of year, and they were so cute. Even though we lived in the city, it was neat to have wildlife around."

But this year, things changed.

"They went nuts," he said of raccoons. "We got a dog" - a German shepherd-Rottweiler mix - to scare them away.

Hall, her husband and a neighbor actually helped save one cat's life.

"We were right there trying to get him off the cat," she said. "The cat was screaming, and the raccoon was ferocious. My husband and a neighbor grabbed a shovel and a bat, and they were waving them until it took off. It was scary."

She said she doesn't know whether neighbor Kathy Wood's cat, Sweetie, will recover.

One thing that also saved Sweetie's life is she's overweight.

"It couldn't pull Sweetie under the deck. But it pulled so hard it hurt her internal organs," Hall said.

The neighbors hired trapper Tom Brown, a nuisance wildlife control operator from Rochester.

Brown said of the raccoons, "They are in command up there."

He said he's seen packs this big, but none so into killing. There was one in Rochester that killed a peacock last winter and another in Grand Mound that killed three chickens. But nothing like this.

Brown said there is an overabundance of food in the area with many fruit trees.

"And the good folks feed them. They're cute as a bug's ear," he said, adding, "I wouldn't mind being a raccoon up there."

Normally, Brown said, he can fix a problem in a few weeks, but he has set traps there for six weeks and caught only one.

"It was with sardines and cat food," he said. "For bait, I use what they've been feeding them."

Brown said he hasn't trapped more because raccoons are intelligent. They teach their young, the same as beavers do. He said one big male boar is the main killer, and he's tasted blood, and he wants more. He's usually helped by one or two others.

"The boar's likely been in a live trap before," Brown said.

Carrell added: "It's highly unlikely you will ever trap him again, and he'll teach the others to stay away."

Brown said he's going to back off for a while until the food supply dries up.

"Then they'll be a little less persnickity," Brown said.

He said his goal is to make them feel uncomfortable. Until that happens, they aren't likely to leave.

"We have our favorite restaurants; they have their favorite routes," he said.


'It's like a freeway'

Keeton said the raccoons travel their route so often they've worn a path.

"It's like a freeway in the back yard," she said. "It's like clockwork. They come between 9 and 9:30 every night."

Corwin said the raccoons are brave.

"They come on my deck and beg for food at my window," Corwin said.

Keeton said she's lived in the area for six years and never seen anything like this. She said Fish and Wildlife, the city of Olympia and animal control ­- nobody has any answers on why this is happening.

But Carrell said: "I talk to people until I'm blue in the face - do not feed cats and dogs outside."

Donny Martorello, also of Fish and Wildlife, said if people don't feed raccoons, or any wildlife, there won't be a problem.

"Raccoons adapt really well living in suburban environments," Martorello said.

Keeton said she knows people have invaded the raccoons' territory, but Hall added they have coexisted peacefully for a long time.

"You've got to watch which ones are bad," Hall said. "It's not all of them. We just have to arm ourselves with pepper spray."

Keeton added: "It may sound silly, but a lot of the people here truly feel scared and terrorized."
http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a.../NEWS/608210327


Tips on keeping raccoons away
    Don't feed them.

    Don't leave any food out that they can get to.

    Clean your grill. The odor can attract them.

    Don't put your trash can out where they can get to it.

    Keep your lights on. Raccoons like to avoid being seen.

    Keep gates closed to make it harder for them to get close to the house.

Source: Donny Martorello, state Department of Fish and Wildlife



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davis¹³
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Carol

WASHINGTON -- Texan Willie Nelson is raising his voice in defense of a symbol of the West — wild horses. Country singer Nelson is the latest to join an effort to ban the slaughter of horses in the U.S. for consumption of their meat abroad. The U.S. House is scheduled to vote Sept. 7 on a bill aimed at ending horse slaughter.

"If you've ever been around horses a lot, especially wild horses, you know they are part of the American heritage. I don't think its right that we kill them and eat them," Nelson said in a telephone interview Tuesday.

In a news release issued this week, Nelson touts a Sept. 5 Washington rally in support of the bill sponsored by Rep. John Sweeney (news, bio, voting record), R-N.Y. Nelson said he won't be at the rally, but his daughter Amy will, along with other celebrities, including former "10" star Bo Derek and Jennifer Pryor, wife of the late comedian Richard Pryor.

Nelson said he learned about the issue through country music producer Eddie Kilroy's show on satellite radio, Hank's Place, which has become Willie's Place.

"When it was Hank's Place, Eddie Kilroy was talking about the issue. He was talking about horse slaughter one day and he called me and talked about what a horrible practice that is. One thing led to another," Nelson said.


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Ohhhhhhhhh, Wilburrrrr. I'm not liking this.

Save the horses Willie.

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All kidding aside, I do think this practice is deplorable. Please encourage your U.S. representatives to stop the slaughter.

Arturo_Vandelay
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I think Judy is correct about that. They did drop off as there was no place for them to retract into.


I drove by the Pima Air Museum, and the B-52s have wheels on them just sitting in the parking lot. I'm not sure they're the same wheels used for flying, but they look permanenet enough.


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Ohhhhhhhhh, Wilburrrrr. I'm not liking this.

Save the horses Willie.

******

All kidding aside, I do think this practice is deplorable. Please encourage your U.S. representatives to stop the slaughter.




They aren't any smarter than cows and pigs, and we eat them. Given my druthers I'd rather see more attention given to humane treatment on farms. Between the choice of living free and being killed for my meat, and living a short horrible life on a factory farm, I'd take the horse's lot in life any time.

Sometimes life is just harsh for everyone.
Repub_Bub
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I drove by the Pima Air Museum, and the B-52s have wheels on them just sitting in the parking lot. I'm not sure they're the same wheels used for flying, but they look permanenet enough.

I can't imagine a much drier topic but...

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The landing gear used double twin-wheeled units mounted side by side underneath the fuselage, one forward and one to the rear. To prevent the wingtips from dragging on the ground during takeoffs or landings, there were small outrigger wheels which retracted into the outer wing.


Outrigger wheels.

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