That is why I posted the relevent documents. It got spun into "Bashing Bush."

Presenting facts is now to be considered "Bush Bashing."


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The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles.
School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles
provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation
for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in
evacuating.

You relevant documents did not explain why Mayor Ray didn't use the buses that were at his disposal to save lives of NO residents. Gubment once again could not deliver on it's promises and people died.
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SE Louisiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan with Orleans Mayor as Signatory.
SE Lousiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan
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SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA
HURRICANE EVACUATION
AND SHELTERING PLAN
REVISED JANUARY 2000

I was listening to Washington Journal and a man got on, thick southern accent of course, and said Bush was the greatest president we've ever had.
ZooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmm!!!
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I'm not really so sure that much of this is Bush's personal fault, davis--not beyond his general habit of very loose supervision of his subordinates, the same we've seen with Iraq, earlier iterations of HS, and federal budget.  He's never represented himself as a detail guy.

What I really DO want to know is what HS has been doing with all that money, if not the core mission?
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Power point presentations, requests for proposals to divvy up the pork, cementing the foundations of the surveillance state.

Important stuff like that.
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Hell buntzy, in your world hundreds of thousands would be dead.
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Once again for the thick of head. This was all changed when the National Response Plan they created was signed into law in December of 2004.

As I've said again and again and again.... You're grasping at straws is as usual, rather boring and your amused contempt and ignorance is quite nauseating. I understand you're overjoyed at the breakdown of government you and your ilk have worked so hard for, but rational people find it barbaric and self-centered.

It's astounding. You come up with a 5 year old plan (as if there's not a more recent one posted elsewhere by honest posters) as if it was still valid. Either read the current law or STFU.

Thank you.
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Hey y'all give these anarchists a break. Preferably a tax break or maybe exemption. They'll need that money to make the walls around their property taller and invest in rolls of razor wire.
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Power point presentations, requests for proposals to divvy up the pork, cementing the foundations of the surveillance state.

Important stuff like that.
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Wrong again Lil' Beezi. National planning does not negate local planning.
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Ah, but it does when the gubner of the state is forced to give over emergency operations to HS, as all state gubners were forced to do in 2004.

You didn't read the documents.



Wrong as usual.
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Poor Lil' Beezi...
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Tell me lil buntsy. What happens when a "state of emergency is declared?"

You read everything right?

Tell us all what happens. 'splain it.
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Tell me lil buntsy. What happens when a "state of emergency is declared?"

You read everything right?

Tell us all what happens. 'splain it.
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Once again for the thick of head. This was all changed when the National Response Plan they created was signed into law in December of 2004.

As I've said again and again and again.... You're grasping at straws is as usual, rather boring and your amused contempt and ignorance is quite nauseating. I understand you're overjoyed at the breakdown of government you and your ilk have worked so hard for, but rational people find it barbaric and self-centered.

It's astounding. You come up with a 5 year old plan (as if there's not a more recent one posted elsewhere by honest posters) as if it was still valid. Either read the current law or STFU.

Thank you.
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Thanks Russ. From the News Today thread. 9/7/05

Russ Logan 
Today, 10:14 AM
Post #49336

Much has been made of the National Response Plan (NRP), December 2004 in this thread and how it superseded state and local planning (it didn't), and how it as "law" (it isn't) changed the existing framework of governmental responsibility. The following is from the relevant sections of the NRP. From my reading of the NRP itself ( http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/NRPbaseplan.pdf ), this plan tells the Federal Sector how it will operate as Federal Sector, and specifically states in the Concept of Operations section,

"A basic premise of the NRP is that incidents are generally handled at the lowest jurisdictional level possible.

In an Incident of National Significance, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in coordination with other Federal departments and agencies, initiates actions to prevent, prepare for, respond to, and recover from the incident. These actions are taken in conjunction with State, local, tribal, nongovernmental, and private-sector entities."

From the Letter of Instruction" in the National Response Plan, December 2004:
[Note: all bolding is mine in embedded text for added emphasis; the use of BLUE is to mirror the text formatting of the original document]

"...State, Local, and Tribal Governments and Nongovernmental Organizations:
State, local, and tribal governments and NGOs are requested to:

■ Utilize established incident reporting protocols to notify local and regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs) and the HSOC, as appropriate, as outlined in section V (page 46) of this document.
■ Coordinate with the HSOC regarding procedures for establishing connectivity for domestic incident management purposes. Local government procedures should be coordinated with the respective State government and/or emergency management agency.
■ Modify existing incident management and emergency operations plans within 120 days (or no later than the next major plan maintenance cycle) to ensure proper alignment with NRP coordinating structures, processes, and protocols.
■ Notify the Secretary of Homeland Security of any substantial conflicts between this plan and State or tribal government laws or regulations. This plan is not intended to compromise existing State or tribal government laws or corresponding incident management or emergency response plans...."

From the section "Scope and Applicability":

"...This plan is applicable to all Federal departments and agencies that may be requested to provide assistance or conduct operations in the context of actual or potential Incidents of National Significance. This includes the American Red Cross, which functions as an Emergency Support Function (ESF) primary organization in coordinating the use of mass care resources in a Presidentially declared disaster or emergency. The NRP is applicable to incidents that may occur at sites under the control of the Legislative or Judicial Branches of the Federal Government.

Based on the criteria established in HSPD-5, Incidents of National Significance are those high-impact events that require a coordinated and effective response by an appropriate combination of Federal, State, local, tribal, private-sector, and nongovernmental entities in order to save lives, minimize damage, and provide the basis for long-term community recovery and mitigation activities..."

The "Authorities" Section:

"...Authorities
Various Federal statutory authorities and policies provide the basis for Federal actions and activities in the context of domestic incident management. The NRP uses the foundation provided by the Homeland Security Act, HSPD-5, and the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (Stafford Act) to provide a comprehensive, all-hazards approach to domestic incident management. Nothing in the NRP alters the existing authorities of individual Federal departments and agencies. The NRP does not convey new authorities upon the Secretary of Homeland Security or any other Federal official.

Rather, this plan establishes the coordinating structures, processes, and protocols required to integrate the specific statutory and policy authorities of various Federal departments and agencies in a collective framework for action to include prevention, preparedness, response, and recovery activities. Appendix 3 provides a summary of key statutes, Executive orders, and Presidential directives that provide additional authority and policy direction relevant to domestic incident management.

The NRP may be used in conjunction with other Federal incident management and emergency operations plans developed under these and other authorities as well as memorandums of understanding (MOUs) among various Federal agencies...."

From the Role and Responsibilities section; State, Local and Tribal Governments":

"...Police, fire, public health and medical, emergency management, public works, environmental response, and other personnel are often the first to arrive and the last to leave an incident site. In some instances, a Federal agency in the local area may act as a first responder, and the local assets of Federal agencies may be used to advise or assist State or local officials in accordance with agency authorities and procedures. Mutual aid agreements provide mechanisms to mobilize and employ resources from neighboring jurisdictions to support the incident command.

When State resources and capabilities are overwhelmed, Governors may request Federal assistance under a Presidential disaster or emergency declaration. Summarized below are the responsibilities of the Governor, Local Chief Executive Officer, and Tribal Chief Executive Officer.

Governor

As a State’s chief executive, the Governor is responsible for the public safety and welfare of the people of that State or territory. The Governor:

■ Is responsible for coordinating State resources to address the full spectrum of actions to prevent, prepare for, respond to, and recover from incidents in an all-hazards context to include terrorism, natural disasters, accidents, and other contingencies;
■ Under certain emergency conditions, typically has police powers to make, amend, and rescind orders and regulations;
■ Provides leadership and plays a key role in communicating to the public and in helping people, businesses, and organizations cope with the consequences of any type of declared emergency within State jurisdiction;
■ Encourages participation in mutual aid and implements authorities for the State to enter into mutual aid agreements with other States, tribes, and territories to facilitate resource-sharing;
■ Is the Commander-in-Chief of State military forces (National Guard when in State Active Duty or Title 32 Status and the authorized State militias); and
■ Requests Federal assistance when it becomes clear that State or tribal capabilities will be insufficient or have been exceeded or exhausted.

Local Chief Executive Officer

A mayor or city or county manager, as a jurisdiction’s chief executive, is responsible for the public safety and welfare of the people of that jurisdiction. The Local Chief Executive Officer:

■ Is responsible for coordinating local resources to address the full spectrum of actions to prevent, prepare for, respond to, and recover from incidents involving all hazards including terrorism, natural disasters, accidents, and other contingencies;
■ Dependent upon State and local law, has extraordinary powers to suspend local laws and ordinances, such as to establish a curfew, direct evacuations, and, in coordination with the local health authority, to order a quarantine;
■ Provides leadership and plays a key role in communicating to the public, and in helping people, businesses, and organizations cope with the consequences of any type of domestic incident within the jurisdiction;
■ Negotiates and enters into mutual aid agreements with other jurisdictions to facilitate resource-sharing; and
■ Requests State and, if necessary, Federal assistance through the Governor of the State when the jurisdiction’s capabilities have been exceeded or exhausted...."

The above is offered not in reproof of any previous argument or support of same by any poster, but simply to provide a framework for discussion when referring to the NRP and its impact upon existing sate and local plans and authorities and to clear up any confuson as to the role of the DHS in this regard and situation. Posters who follow the link may note that the NRP is currently in Phase 3 of it's implementation life-cycle (Initial Implementation and Testing (120 days to one year)) after which it is subject to its first year review and any needed revisions.

Back to the fray.
This is where you STFU tweeker.
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Clear right there in the State EOP. Governer declares state of emergency and THE PLAN, that would be the State EOP, goes into effect and Mayor Ray supposed to get them buses rollin' He didn't, people died. Lil' Bee Plan to wait for the Feds gets folks killed.
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Actually, "The Plan" refers to the NRP.

I suggest you read it as it effects you and your state, too. Or do what you're so good at, make fun of others misfortunes.

I'll just remind you Hurricaine season isn't over yet, and you and your beach house millionaire buddies might not appreciate the finer points of "The Plan," should the inevitable happen to you.
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The Governor has delegated to the Director of the Louisiana Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness (LOHSEP) the responsibility for implementation of this plan.  The Director will implement this plan and procedures when the situation warrants.  Should the Governor declare a state of emergency, the plan will automatically be activated.

Its your rich country club friends that live on the gubment subsidies for their ocean front 2nd homes there Lil' Beezi.
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you people are so funny. First democrats are looters and then they hang out at the rich country club.
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Speaking of oceanfront homes, did you catch Bush saying how he looks forward to visiting Trent Lott at his?

I sure hope we're not gonna give Trent Lott a loan to rebuild with!
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Yesterday I read a critical article in the Washigton Times that told of shocking revelations that there was an email from Michael Brown that gave FEMA employees 2 days to get to NO. 2 days. It was quite scathing considering it was a conservative newspaper.

Now, one day later,  the story is not even on the site and they've narrowed their focus to attack any critics of the federal response to Katrina. They removed the critical story and replaced it with a multitude of stories that support Michael Brown and condemn the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of NO.
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Fox's Saudi Prince
By Frank J Gaffney Jr.
FrontPageMagazine.com | September 30, 2005

With surprisingly little media attention, Saudi Arabia has bought a stake in the company that owns what has been, until now, arguably its most visible and influential critic: the Fox News Network. Will this be the end of Fox’s “fair and balanced” coverage of the immense Saudi role in promoting Islamofascist terror? Or can American viewers rest assured that the royal Saudi buyer, Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, has nothing more nefarious in mind than increasing his already vast fortune?

The answer to this incalculably important question may lie in understanding who this prince is, and the nature of his deal with Rupert Murdoch, the principal owner of Fox’s parent, the News Corporation.

Al-Waleed is said be the world’s fifth richest man and now NewsCorp’s fourth largest voting shareholder (behind the Murdoch family, Liberty Media and fund giant Fidelity Management & Research Co). Such a role would appear to give the Prince some say over the way the business is run. That could, presumably, extend to the content of Fox programming and that of the company’s other media outlets (which include DirecTV and 20th Century Fox).

Will Al-Waleed be a prince, and leave these American institutions alone? Or will he throw his weight around, perhaps only behind the scenes, to – let’s say – improve the sorry image his country has earned in the United States?

Mind you, public relations is not exactly something at which Al-Waleed has previously excelled. But not for want of trying.

Recall that he was the Saudi prince who made headlines after September 11th when he visited Ground Zero and offered then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani a $10 million check for relief efforts.

A few days later, however, the prince released a statement that blamed the United States and its support for Israel for the devastating 9/11 attacks. To his credit, “America’s Mayor” immediately returned the prince’s check with a statement: “There is no moral equivalent for this attack. The people who did it lost any right to ask for justification when they slaughtered…innocent people….Not only are those statements wrong, they’re part of the problem.”

Then, there was the prince’s bizarre miscalculation over how to rehabilitate his image in this country. Shortly after the check fiasco, he permitted the CBS program “60 Minutes” to profile him and his hyper-rich, internationally jet-setting lifestyle. The ensuing spectacle of an indolent, Westernized Material Boy cannot have done much more for the image of the Kingdom’s royals with his country’s millions of Wahhabi have-nots than it did with the average American viewer.

The segment did, however, suggest that the prince is not above lying when it serves his purpose. For example, he told his incredulous interviewer, Ed Bradley, that that Saudi Arabia is a country with “no problems.” When pressed, he insisted, “What I'm telling you is Saudi Arabia has no civil unrest, no civil disobedience. Sorry. Saudi Arabia is a very stable country. Sure…we had these bombs here and there, but they were all related to a certain subject.”

The certain subject, of course, is the thing that deserves more attention from the American media, not less. Despite Al-Waleed’s efforts to sweep Saudi Arabia’s non-problems under the Persian rug, the Kingdom is beginning to experience what its largesse and Wahhabi ideology have visited upon the rest of the world for decades: Islamofascist terror.

Even more troubling than having a Saudi spinmeister, even a lousy one, at the decision-making table of America’s most successful, and conservative, television network is another aspect of Al-Waleed’s deal with Mr. Murdoch. The Australian entrepreneur has reportedly also given the prince the unfiltered ability to broadcast Saudi-produced materials directly into America on Murdoch’s satellite.

Here’s how that part of the deal will evidently work: Prince Al-Waleed’s Rotana Audio Visual Company, which operates TV channels in the Middle East, has signed a deal with DirecTV, the TV-satellite firm controlled by NewsCorp. As a result, it would seem Rotana will be able to beam its programs into U.S. cable boxes without interference from federal regulators, or anybody else.

Hmmm. What passes for entertainment in Saudi Arabia mostly looks like jihadist agitprop to the rest of us. Rotana has a huge library of movies, music and television programs. Such programming has to also include vicious anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, and anti-American incitement. That is, after all, the only kind of material the Wahhabi religious censors approve for production and broadcast in Saudi Arabia. Could that be what the prince has in mind for DirecTV subscribers

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=19652