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Mizilus
So, hows about we post all of those SCROOOOOOOOLLLLLy pictures in one place so's we can view them at our leisure.

Yeah I like SOME of them (the skank series was hilarious) but for the most part they are like dog turds in the yard.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(Mizilus @ Feb 24 2005, 05:11 PM)
So, hows about we post all of those SCROOOOOOOOLLLLLy pictures in one place so's we can view them at our leisure.

Yeah I like SOME of them (the skank series was hilarious) but for the most part they are like dog turds in the yard.
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Send another PM to the boss. We can have another poll. sad.gif
Mizilus
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 24 2005, 03:12 PM)
Send another PM to the boss. We can have another poll.  sad.gif
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I've sent PM's to this boss (never cspan) but I aint never cried I dont think.

I'm sure he'll correct me if I have.
Bart Katz
Perhaps you should just make up an entire set of rules so the board suits you totally and completely and submit the entire list at one time so as to avoid all these useless and senseless threads you keep starting.
Mizilus
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 24 2005, 03:23 PM)
Perhaps you should just make up an entire set of rules so the board suits you totally and completely and submit the entire list at one time so as to avoid all these useless and senseless threads you keep starting.
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Why would I want to set an entire set of rules for a democracy like this board is?

As to useless threads yer right. All of the images that have nothing to do with anything should go in barts spam thread.
Guest
Miz is just MIZurribal!

Blah, blah, blah!!!
Mizilus
yeah? Who the eff are you?
Arturo_Vandelay
I know, and it ain't me.
Mizilus
QUOTE(Art Vandelay @ Feb 26 2005, 05:19 PM)
I know, and it ain't me.
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Yer all the same.

Unless I let you know otherwise.

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Bee
I think that was GoBig, miz

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Bart Katz
Getting ready to go to the trial.

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Arturo_Vandelay
I think it's time to market a new Mr Potato Head game.
lil bart
That potato has only one interchangeable part. user posted image
Arturo_Vandelay
All that stuff is fake, you just can't see the holes.
lil bart
QUOTE(Art Vandelay @ Feb 26 2005, 08:49 PM)
All that stuff is fake, you just can't see the holes.
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Sure. Now you're gonna be tellin' me his boobs are implants, too. dry.gif
Arturo_Vandelay
I'd have to feel 'em to know for sure, but maybe we could ask McCauley Culkin.
Arturo_Vandelay
Casa Vandelay. Before. (after coming fall of 08)



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SpaceCowboy
QUOTE(Art Vandelay @ Feb 27 2005, 12:06 AM)
Casa Vandelay. Before. (after coming fall of 08)
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Congrats!

That looks like a fine piece of land. Perfect view.
Bart Katz
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SpaceCowboy
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 27 2005, 12:22 AM)
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Big sky country.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(SpaceCowboy @ Feb 26 2005, 11:25 PM)
Big sky country.
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From Colorado U, Boulder site.
lil bart
QUOTE(Art Vandelay @ Feb 26 2005, 09:06 PM)
Casa Vandelay. Before. (after coming fall of 08)
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This someplace new you're buying out of town?
Bart Katz
QUOTE(lil bart @ Feb 26 2005, 11:40 PM)
This someplace new you're buying out of town?
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Unibomber's house. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Bart Katz
SNL is a sucky January rerun, BTW.
Arturo_Vandelay
Actually that place is a little shack my friend built to keep his tools out of the rain while they're setting up their property. Three friends split a nice piece of property that's already appreciated by thousands.
Arturo_Vandelay
Of dollars, not local hobos.
lil bart
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 26 2005, 09:41 PM)
Unibomber's house.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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You're twyin' to twick me. Besides, Arizona looks nothing like Montana.

QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 26 2005, 09:42 PM)
SNL is a sucky January rerun, BTW.
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Thanks for the warning. I got through about 3 seconds of last week's. That Jackson/Taylor thing was just way too creepy.

QUOTE(Art Vandelay @ Feb 26 2005, 09:45 PM)
Actually that place is a little shack my friend built to keep his tools out of the rain while they're setting up their property. Three friends split a nice piece of property that's already appreciated by thousands.
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Kewl. There's a downside to property appreciation, though. You make out like a seller once.

There was an interesting letter to the editor here about that the other day. A town some 20 or so miles out is scheduled to have a big new plant built, and a house-building company wants to come in and throw up 150 or so houses at value circa $175K each. This longtime resident is asking: is this what we (he and his) want? Soaring money values to replace community and community values?

He's got the question right. Dunno that it can be stopped.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(lil bart @ Feb 26 2005, 11:59 PM)
You're twyin' to twick me. Besides, Arizona looks nothing like Montana.
Thanks for the warning. I got through about 3 seconds of last week's. That Jackson/Taylor thing was just way too creepy.
Kewl. There's a downside to property appreciation, though. You make out like a seller once.

There was an interesting letter to the editor here about that the other day. A town some 20 or so miles out is scheduled to have a big new plant built, and a house-building company wants to come in and throw up 150 or so houses at value circa $175K each. This longtime resident is asking: is this what we (he and his) want? Soaring money values to replace community and community values?

He's got the question right. Dunno that it can be stopped.
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Want jobs? Gotta take what comes with it.
Bart Katz
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Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(lil bart @ Feb 26 2005, 10:59 PM)


There was an interesting letter to the editor here about that the other day. A town some 20 or so miles out is scheduled to have a big new plant built, and a house-building company wants to come in and throw up 150 or so houses at value circa $175K each. This longtime resident is asking: is this what we (he and his) want? Soaring money values to replace community and community values?

He's got the question right. Dunno that it can be stopped.
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As long as people don't simultaneously complain about growth/environment and unemployment/wages I have no problem with them. But I find a lot of people have unrealistic expectations that they can have it all without sacrifice. And that goes for both sides of the argument.
SpaceCowboy
For those of you from green areas:

That would be what we desert dwellers call foothills property. Building is prohibited in the hills themselves (they are generally kept as natural areas). To understand its desirability think backing up to a national forest.

Having a view of the hills means having a classic Tucson pallet of colors and shadows play across the hills in the background at sunset.
Arturo_Vandelay
I love spending the night. A little fire out front and twinkling lights in the distance. Trains running down in the valley. They got a deal because the well wasn't too good. Had to buy a cistern and pump, plus haul water. Buying on the outskirts of Tucson is a no-lose proposition.
davis¹³
QUOTE(Art Vandelay @ Feb 26 2005, 11:06 PM)
Casa Vandelay. Before. (after coming fall of 08)
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<insert Dueling Banjos here>
Bee
QUOTE(SpaceCowboy @ Feb 27 2005, 01:11 AM)
For those of you from green areas:

That would be what we desert dwellers call foothills property. Building is prohibited in the hills themselves (they are generally kept as natural areas). To understand its desirability think backing up to a national forest.

Having a view of the hills means having a classic Tucson pallet of colors and shadows play across the hills in the background at sunset.
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There are other considerations as well.

Big chunks of open area have their own hazards. Floods, Fires and mudslides come to mind.
lil bart
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 26 2005, 10:03 PM)
Want jobs?  Gotta take what comes with it.
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It is said the jobs will go to imported people, as the houses will be built by same. The Tacoma company pushing for the housing development had the noive to say, at a public meeting, "We care more about your community than you do." Shoulda been a posse and a rail right then and thar.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(lil bart @ Feb 27 2005, 12:52 PM)
It is said the jobs will go to imported people, as the houses will be built by same. The Tacoma company pushing for the housing development had the noive to say, at a public meeting, "We care more about your community than you do." Shoulda been a posse and a rail right then and thar.
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I suppose if the people live somewhere else, then somwhere else will get the benefits. To each his own.
lil bart
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 27 2005, 11:27 AM)
I suppose if the people live somewhere else, then somwhere else will get the benefits. To each his own.
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I have failed to convey that this community of about 7,000 has a median housing value maybe half of what these proposed houses will be "worth" and incomes well below state and national averages. People choose to live in a community like that out of need or desire. Will its absorption into the bot be better for all, and is it what they want? I salute local fights for local communities. Both the political decision to site a controversial industry there and the economic decisions to bring a large quota of unaffordable housing there are from without.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(lil bart @ Feb 27 2005, 01:41 PM)
I have failed to convey that this community of about 7,000 has a median housing value maybe half of what these proposed houses will be "worth" and incomes well below state and national averages. People choose to live in a community like that out of need or desire.  Will its absorption into the bot be better for all, and is it what they want? I salute local fights for local communities. Both the political decision to site a controversial industry there and the economic decisions to bring a large quota of unaffordable housing there are from without.
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What is the controversial industry?
lil bart
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 27 2005, 12:57 PM)
What is the controversial industry?
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A glass-making plant. Apparently resource-intense, and to be sited on filled in floodplains. Which won't displace water runoff "much," they say. I'm not agin' it -- or for it. It is not my community. I am not satisfied that the siting is good. Water displacement around here is everybody's business -- and concern.
Repub_Bub
QUOTE(lil bart @ Feb 28 2005, 12:57 AM)
A glass-making plant. Apparently resource-intense, and to be sited on filled in floodplains. Which won't displace water runoff "much," they say. I'm not agin' it -- or for it. It is not my community. I am not satisfied that the siting is good. Water displacement around here is everybody's business -- and concern.
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Maybe the plant could build the houses.....
lil bart
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Feb 27 2005, 05:04 PM)
Maybe the plant could build the houses.....
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What are you trying to say?
Bart Katz
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Feb 27 2005, 07:04 PM)
Maybe the plant could build the houses.....
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Company town, company store, just like West Virginia. OTOH, Litchfield did it and essentially created a middle class from the blue collars in his town.

As for this little town, I just wonder where those people work and where they get their money.

RCA did a fine job with their glass plant in Chillicothe, but that's in Southern, Ohio. The kids off the farms around there were quite happy to get work without having to move away.
lil bart
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 27 2005, 06:07 PM)
Company town, company store, just like West Virginia. OTOH, Litchfield did it and essentially created a middle class from the blue collars in his town.

As for this little town, I just wonder where those people work and where they get their money. 

RCA did a fine job with their glass plant in Chillicothe, but that's in Southern, Ohio.  The kids off the farms around there were quite happy to get work without having to move away.
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The people in this town are thinkin' the employees are gonna be imported, just like the rest. I guess they'll prob'ly get their chance to see.

As to the housing development -- equivalent to 10 percent of the houses now there, I think, at 160 or 200 percent value, that one reeks ... to me.

Meanwhile, where I am, folks are starting the bigtime trickle-down (is that an oxymoron?) from parts Northern wherein they are richly employed by the gubmint. I could definitely use a few of your muskets to keep them peoples out. cool.gif
Bart Katz
QUOTE(lil bart @ Feb 27 2005, 09:19 PM)
The people in this town are thinkin' the employees are gonna be imported, just like the rest. I guess they'll prob'ly get their chance to see.

As to the housing development -- equivalent to 10 percent of the houses now there, I think, at 160 or 200 percent value, that one reeks ... to me.

Meanwhile, where I am, folks are starting the bigtime trickle-down (is that an oxymoron?) from parts Northern wherein they are richly employed by the gubmint. I could definitely use a few of your muskets to keep them peoples out.  cool.gif
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Maybe something a little more modern?

I could send you a batch of these.

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http://shakti.trincoll.edu/~rlai/tssi/ar7.htm
lil bart
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 27 2005, 08:34 PM)
Maybe something a little more modern?

I could send you a batch of these.

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http://shakti.trincoll.edu/~rlai/tssi/ar7.htm
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In my dreams! user posted imageuser posted image
davis¹³
That's an interesting gun. A collector's piece.


Looks kind of like the one in Joe Kidd (Clint Eastwood.)
Bart Katz
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Feb 28 2005, 07:31 AM)
That's an interesting gun. A collector's piece.
Looks kind of like the one in Joe Kidd  (Clint Eastwood.)
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The company has changed hand several times but they are still being made. I have one from around 1988, got it at Wooworth's. A nice camo color. I keep it in the trunk of the car for just in case. smile.gif
davis¹³
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I keep it in the trunk of the car for just in case.


You get caught doing that in Illinois without the ammo locked in the glove box they will burn your ass.

No loaded firearms.
Grigorii
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Feb 28 2005, 09:03 AM)
The company has changed hand several times but they are still being made.  I have one from around 1988, got it at Wooworth's.  A nice camo color.  I keep it in the trunk of the car for just in case.  smile.gif
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Originally made for an Air Force survival pack weren’t they?
Bart Katz
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Feb 28 2005, 09:06 AM)
You get caught doing that in Illinois without the ammo locked in the glove box they will burn your ass.

No loaded firearms.
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I know how to travel with firearms, sir.
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