http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO4qGWtP2a0...ted&search=

for those who think its all a big joke

No, this is a totally different mystery than that one I think(it's easy to get all the different mysteries confUSed as far as what all happened on that damned day)... as I remember it, these were "non-English speaking Muslims" in a van with a mural of airplanes crashing into New York and/or the WTC painted on the side of the van...

If this audio is accurate, then evidently the van was full of explosives and indeed exploded... it's a wonder that something like this didn't make it into any media to speak of... don't you think?...

Here's more from a quick google...

http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/fo...ewtopic.php?344

I shouldn't be too hard. After all, according to inyer there were only 19 folks involved in the conspiracy.
If 5 of them were dancing Israelis that only leaves 12 to perpetuate all the other activities.

Assuming that there were some Ten lords a-leaping that leaves 2 to do the heavy lifting.

please don't take my word for it

do your own research

I trust ya inyer...them two guys musta been some talented sonsabitches.

cheney and rummy?

yeseree bub

We finally agree...on their talent...and possibly their parentage.

Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).
Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Now you're starting to turn into an IDIOT!

I watched footage of the damn trucks taking out concrete in......CHUNKS. If you think that every single CUBIC INCH of concrete that made up the WTC was.....PULVERIZED, then you aren't as bright as I thought you were.

I could give a fark what Pataki says...and did he really say.....ALL???

Keep it up and I'll start calling you....Inyer Jr.

ALL???????????????

lets call you names? that'll teach ya! maybe in your childish world you think that works... lmao!

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9/11 Truth Reaches The Tipping Point
Exponential growth secured by Rosie O'Donnell's public stance

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april...ippingpoint.htm

...Celebrities by their very nature are no angels and are open to personal attack by thugs like Bill O'Reilly, but consider some of the following highly respected individuals who have thrown their hat in the ring for 9/11 truth in just the last few weeks.

From the excellent website http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ ;

Lt. Col. Jeff Latas, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former combat fighter pilot (F-15E and F-111). Former President, U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board. Also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review. Awarded Distinguish Flying Cross for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals. 20-year Air Force career. Currently commercial airline pilot;

Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force fighter pilot (F-111, F-15E, F-16, B-1, F-18, Mig-29, and Suu-22). Flew combat missions over Iraq. Former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. 20-year Air Force career.

"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government," Razer tells the website.

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Vietnam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

"In my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot," Davis tells the website, "There is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!"

I could give a poopy what you call me!

WHERE IS THE PROOF?????

Conspiracy advocates vindicated as Rosie points to hole in govt cover up.

9/11 panel: FAA had early al Qaeda warnings

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/11/911.memo/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Dozens of Federal Aviation Administration memos warned of al Qaeda or Osama bin Laden in 2001, but the agency didn't order new security measures before the September 11 attacks, a newly released declassified report by the 9/11 commission says.

The FAA's security branch generated 105 so-called daily summaries between April 1 and September 10, 2001, the report said. Fifty-two of those summaries mentioned bin Laden or al Qaeda, and five discussed hijacking "as a capability al Qaeda was training for or possessed."

Bring it on!

Are you really this clueless?

You're contradicting yerself. (no surprise)

I thought you believed that Bush and the guvmint was behind 9/11???????
What the hell is this Al Qaeda nonsense?

People SAW THE PLANES. Plant a landing wheel assembly? Is somebody going to hide one under their coat and drop it and walk away while nobody is looking. This is the kind of thing that makes the whole conspiracy theory business look stupid.




Yes a slap is a slap, and a planeload of jet fuel at 500 MPH is not a slap.

play dumb

works for bush

works on you

the airline warning article shows that no protection was given to the public

the cheney/rummy team used the alQuaida group as scapegoats, and its worked on you perfectly.

mission accomplished!

Nobody saw the planes. Where is the proof that people saw planes crash into the WTC? The video footage is just Hollywood special effects. The towers were brought down by controlled demolitions ordered by Bush.
Only controlled demolitions can cause skyscrapers to fall straight down. Every Cubic Inch of concrete was turned into 'dust'. The only way that can happen is by controlled demolitions.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU SPOT?
Don't you believe in the Easter Bunny?




I don't think you're 'playing at all'. For you....it comes natural!

you insult yourself

I must be insane or something.......

Imagining planes and some terrorist organization that doesn't exist......




No, but I do believe in the Great Pumpkin and tooth fairy.

Still more believable that inyerface...and nomarchy at least had me to where i might listen.




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Sounds suspicious. How can we PROVE a volcanic reef did it and not the Inyerface cabal?


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070406/D8OB6BL00.html

Divers Search Sunken Ship for 2 Missing
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ATHENS, Greece (AP) - A Greek cruise ship that struck a volcanic reef and forced the evacuation of hundreds of tourists sank on Friday, 15 hours after it began taking on water off the coast of a Mediterranean island. Navy divers searched around the sunken wreckage for a Frenchman and his daughter - the only two passengers still missing.

Passengers on Thursday climbed down rope ladders to coast guard boats below in a three-hour rescue that involved Greece's military, commercial ships and local fishermen from the island of Santorini. Those on board were mostly American, and also included groups from Canada and Spain.

Authorities said two French passengers - Jean-Christophe Allain, 45, and his 16-year-old daughter, Maud - had still not been accounted for. Tourism Minister Fanny Palli Petralia said she had spoken with the missing passenger's wife.

but then again, these people have brains...


Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

You need to learn how to read for compehension.

Have a nice day. Good thing you apparently have other 'assets'.



LOOK, MALAKA extraordinaire!

Spot apparently cannot read for comprehension. Do not compound her error by commenting on it.

You farking fool!





No evidence of a plane IN THE HOLE!!!!!!!!!!! Not 'no evidence of a plane having struck the building'.

I read just fine. You and Inyerface are nasty little peabrains. Why gtessex bothers to comment in a civil matter is a mystery.

more peabrains for ya

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Quibbling over ever little detail. YOU need to read for comprehension.

Why I bother to comment at all is a mystery to me!




In all seriousness, I wouldn't have put Normachy in the same 'boat' as Inyer. There has been this comparison of the 'Loony-left' to the Borg. My fear is that Normachy has been 'assimilation' and has become part of the 'Collective'. As this continues to 'evolve', look for them to start regenerating themselves by hanging upside down from the rafters.

exactly... read what the experts have to say first

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

The 'experts' on this site are 'speculating'. No proof at all.

I enjoyed reading how the Pentagon was not struck by a 757 again! Just 'knee slapping funny'.

Yet no one has given it a thought......WHAT HAPPENED TO FLIGHT 77? It did exist along with the passengers. Then it all just disappeared!

.....and here they are?

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.cen...77.victims.html

Please Inyer link me to a site that PROVES these people are alive?

Come-on buddy I know you can do it!

'Experts' alright. Just like you are an 'expert' of throwing the.....BULL. Wasted time, but high entertaining.

The experts on the official story side are also speculating.

I'm sure you know way more than NORAD experts, defense officers, military intel, etc...

you should write to them and call them names... I bet they'd be impressed.

You are disappointing me!

I wanna know what happened to flight 77 and the passengers and I want to know it NOW????

Somewhere's who must have a site that proves that they are still alive. Come-on Buddy, I know you can do it!

Can you be the first one who doesn't name-call?

Spot... what do you know of Al CIAda?

Nomarchy is insulting in a much more subtle way. For some reason yesterday's liberals have turned into ranting loons. Liberal used to mean open minded and for freedom of thought and speech. Now they've gone to defending murderous religious zealots who murder women for perceived slights while blaming political enemies for everything.




I know al QAEDA does exist and kills people, for sure.

Al CIAda is at least part paranoid delusion.

Nomarchy insults in a subtle way when he recognizes that he's being insulted in a subtle way. And that is what some of you who are not terribly artful in your subtle insults do not like about me insulting you back.

Show me a single instance when I have "defend[ed] murderous religious zealots who murder women for perceived slights while blaming political enemies for everything".

You also don't appear to like it when I pay attention to the details that you needed to have paid attention to in order to make your case. To say that I pick on details and that I am pedantic is no revelation. We all know that I do that and that I am that. I admit it.

Now, if you give me and my arguments wide berth, I'll give your inability to put together arguments that stand up to scrutiny wide berth. If you don't, don't be surprised if I pick them apart.

There are people in this forum who are equally, if not more, capable as I am to pick apart arguments, including mine, at a level of minute detail that many professionals would admire. And they do it, and I take my lumps as I expect them to take theirs when I "do" it to them and their arguments.

Either stay at the level of generalities and be accorded that level of scrutiny or enter the level of specifics and details and expect the appropriate level of scrutiny.

You already said that you go for the obvious as the first explanation. A statement that you proceeded to undermine later, even as you completely missed the point of my analogy, not to mention its logic.

You cannot expect me to be 'kind' to your arguments when you're not kind to mine. If you enter the fray, I treat you as an equal.

Maybe it's a cultural difference or maybe a specific family upbringing difference. Maybe the family I grew up in was particularly weird in being so ridiculously 'not nice' when it came to arguments. Our parents treated us as 'full adults' intellectually WAY too early, it appears, and we treated them as folks making arguments and putting forth justifications for their "imperatives" way too early and way too much. Be that as it may, I've told my mother that the moment I do not treat her arguments or her positions as seriously as I would treat the arguments and positions of people that I consider equally as intelligent and capable as her will be the moment that I have started treating her as an 'inferior'.

Your analogy sucked. A 100lb person can kill a 200lb person by applying the correct force. You decided loaded planes were a "slap", which I refuse to agree to.

You shouldn't have let yourself get sucked into the idiocy.

Look, I have given you every opportunity NOT to demonstrate that you are a moron. And yet, you insist.

Let us say we're watching a video of an event: Here's what we see in the video:

A 100lbs person slaps (one hand, open-handed slap on the face) a 200lbs person.
Alternatively, the 100lbs persons expertly punches the 200lbs person.

The 200lbs person staggers and falls over, collapses.

A few minutes later, paramedics pronounce the 200lbs person dead.

That is what is "obvious" and what we KNOW, we have OBSERVED happened.

A 200lbs person, alive and standing. A 100lb person person, alive and slapping/expertly punching the 200lbs person. After the slap/expert punch, the 200lbs person staggers and falls over, collapses. A few minutes later, the 200lbs person is pronounced dead.

What caused the 200lbs person to stagger, collapse and die?

Sticking with the OBVIOUS, and awaiting for preponderant evidence to the contrary, one would HYPOTHESIZE that the slap/expert punch by the 100lbs person caused the 200lbs person to stagger, collapse and die.

Still, plausible as that hypothesis might be, it is NOT a foregone conclusion. It has to be established as 'good enough' to actually explain the event, causally AND superior to alternative hypotheses. E.g. we must enquire into the condition of the 200lbs at the time of the slap/expert punch and between the time of the slap/expert punch and his/her collapsing and dying.


Planes crashing into WTC-1 and WTC-2. Fireballs. Fires. Collapse of WTC-1 and WTC-2. You say, go with the obvious. Thus, Planes crashing into the buildings. Fires. Collapse of the buildings into rubble.

If you can't understand the analogy then it's your fault.



What is the idiocy?

Do you want to play?

Do you want to take on the analogy with a punch, instead?

A punch CAN kill a person. It HAS killed a person. It is physically possible for a punch to kill a person. A punch killing a person does not violate the laws of physics, or the known characteristics of the desing and structure of a person.

Still, the obvious explanation COULD BE WRONG. Going with the obvious is not science. It's not even disciplined thinking.

It's cowdoody.

You made up a BS analogy and got called on it.

Now you go ahead and demonstrate why it was a BS analogy.

Go ahead.

I dare ya, I double-dare ya, I double-triple dog-dare ya!!!!!!!!!!

It has nothing to do with what actually happened. It's just another one of your many tiring redirections.

Are you a malakas, as well?

Do you understand what analogies are supposed to do?

Are you a scientist, or a scientifically trained person, or do you play one on T.V.?

The Empire State Building was hit by a B52 and DID NOT FALL

so the WTC was DESIGNED to take a hit from a fully loaded passenger jet

HELLO!

anybody out there with a brain?

the designers say it shouldn't have crumbled

ex NORAD officials say there's NO WAY FOUR Hijacked airliners could escape our radar and military

Sounds like he knows exactly what it was meant to do, deter the discussion from what happened to an academic logic discussion.

When you guys lost FJ I knew the jig was up.

FJ was never with this

she was always pro bush conspiracy

always

Nobody loves Bush like FJ. (and I mean GW)

I meant that she favors the "official" conspiracy, just like you

Over the dumbass conspiracy, yes I do.

The Empire State Building was hit by a B-25, a much smaller WWII twin engine bomber.

Darn facts. How many TOTAL fabrications does this make?

I went inside a B-25 as a kid. They're amazingly small inside and out. Anything that can fly off a carrier is not too big, but my childish awe made it into something larger than life in my mind. The P-47 wasn't that much smaller. I got to taxi right by one when I was flying a little Cessna 150.

yes and the designers of the WTC took that into consideration