Slow day on the boards.
Sooooo. New Topic.
Anyone have an thoughts or suggestions on where in the US is the best place
to retire to?
Haven't spent much time 'looking around', but do subsribe to the magazine 'Where to retire'.
Like to check out areas in the southern states.
Colorado may be a good choice. Sunny & low humidity...lower cost of living.
Wherever I end up.....the follow conditions must exist.
1. Area less costly than the one I live in now.
2. Good medical facilities.
3. Warm and sunny weather with warm winters.
4. Plenty of activities to see and do.
5. Not heavily populated.
6. Tax breaks for people of retirement ages. (believe or not Vermont has none)
7. More conservative politically than where I live now.
Full Version: Places to retire.
Love the topic.
I think, however, that your Nos. 1-3 & 6, at a minimum, will prove counter-exclusive to No. 4.
I want: less costly, less money-driven & more community-driven. This means: somewhere the Californians won't go. I'll take bad weather, poor medical facilities and little (customarily thought of as) to "see or do."
Not heavily populated (presuming I am not wealthy enough to live in Manhattan) is my number one priority.
I think, however, that your Nos. 1-3 & 6, at a minimum, will prove counter-exclusive to No. 4.
I want: less costly, less money-driven & more community-driven. This means: somewhere the Californians won't go. I'll take bad weather, poor medical facilities and little (customarily thought of as) to "see or do."
Not heavily populated (presuming I am not wealthy enough to live in Manhattan) is my number one priority.
Right where I live right now is hard to beat. I'd say it qualifies in all of your criteria.
You can get a real good idea of cost of living differences compared to where you live now buy using the calculator here.
http://www.homefair.com/homefair/calc/salcalc.html
http://www.homefair.com/homefair/calc/salcalc.html
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ May 18 2005, 03:21 PM)
Right where I live right now is hard to beat. I'd say it qualifies in all of your criteria.
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Where's that?
QUOTE(lil bart @ May 18 2005, 01:40 PM)
Love the topic.
I think, however, that your Nos. 1-3 & 6, at a minimum, will prove counter-exclusive to No. 4.
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I think, however, that your Nos. 1-3 & 6, at a minimum, will prove counter-exclusive to No. 4.
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Thanks!
There is going to plus and minuses to anyplace.
I like the south, but not to hype on dealing with the high humidity.
I like Colorado, but it's not near the ocean.
I like California, but couldn't afford it!
Just lotsa research to do.
QUOTE(gtessex @ May 18 2005, 12:59 PM)
Slow day on the boards.
Sooooo. New Topic.
Anyone have an thoughts or suggestions on where in the US is the best place
to retire to?
Haven't spent much time 'looking around', but do subsribe to the magazine 'Where to retire'.
Like to check out areas in the southern states.
Colorado may be a good choice. Sunny & low humidity...lower cost of living.
Wherever I end up.....the follow conditions must exist.
1. Area less costly than the one I live in now.
2. Good medical facilities.
3. Warm and sunny weather with warm winters.
4. Plenty of activities to see and do.
5. Not heavily populated.
6. Tax breaks for people of retirement ages. (believe or not Vermont has none)
7. More conservative politically than where I live now.
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Sooooo. New Topic.
Anyone have an thoughts or suggestions on where in the US is the best place
to retire to?
Haven't spent much time 'looking around', but do subsribe to the magazine 'Where to retire'.
Like to check out areas in the southern states.
Colorado may be a good choice. Sunny & low humidity...lower cost of living.
Wherever I end up.....the follow conditions must exist.
1. Area less costly than the one I live in now.
2. Good medical facilities.
3. Warm and sunny weather with warm winters.
4. Plenty of activities to see and do.
5. Not heavily populated.
6. Tax breaks for people of retirement ages. (believe or not Vermont has none)
7. More conservative politically than where I live now.
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Kentucky, is vera nice state, maybe.
I did a book a year or so back about the best places, I'll take a look see for ya, GT.
QUOTE(gtessex @ May 18 2005, 04:28 PM)
Thanks!
There is going to plus and minuses to anyplace.
I like the south, but not to hype on dealing with the high humidity.
I like Colorado, but it's not near the ocean.
I like California, but couldn't afford it!
Just lotsa research to do.
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There is going to plus and minuses to anyplace.
I like the south, but not to hype on dealing with the high humidity.
I like Colorado, but it's not near the ocean.
I like California, but couldn't afford it!
Just lotsa research to do.
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Well, there is the extreme noth of California, fairly affordable.
Always entertained the notion of going to Mendocino.... Purple starfish!!!! seen them myself.
Mendocino? Ohmygawd, it's flakier than Boulder or Ashland or heaven only knows where. No, I don't think those would be gtessex's cups of brew. Of course, he did put Cali on the list. I'd rather be dead than live in California, even the parts I know that are still just a teeny bit off the borg absorb.
I'd rather be dead than live in California, even the parts I know that are still just a teeny bit off the borg absorb.
Bloomington tops the Charts!
http://www.journalism.indiana.edu/gallery/...final/ababbitt/
Who'da thunk? <thunk>
http://www.journalism.indiana.edu/gallery/...final/ababbitt/
Who'da thunk? <thunk>
How about New Mexico? Not too populous and you could find some higher elevations to stay cool. Low humidity in the southwest. That ranks high with me since I like to do a lot of outdoor activities and HATE bugs.
Bugs -- bad.
Humidity -- bad.
I gotta check out Nova Scotia. Not that I wanna emigrate, but that's a place I need to go to.
Humidity -- bad.
I gotta check out Nova Scotia. Not that I wanna emigrate, but that's a place I need to go to.
QUOTE(gtessex @ May 18 2005, 03:22 PM)
Where's that?
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Huntsville Alabama area.
One could move to Mexico and live pretty well on a small budget. You can buy into the healthcare system cheap as well.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ May 18 2005, 06:50 PM)
One could move to Mexico and live pretty well on a small budget. You can buy into the healthcare system cheap as well.
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Double the "I'd rather be dead" quotient.
QUOTE(lil bart @ May 18 2005, 06:56 PM)
Double the "I'd rather be dead" quotient.
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The places I'm thinking of are mostly foreigners. Cancun anyone?
Here's a long conversation about the same topic from a couple of years back. Fun for a gander.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/ho...8450128380.html
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/ho...8450128380.html
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ May 18 2005, 07:01 PM)
The places I'm thinking of are mostly foreigners. Cancun anyone?
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You should check out what that international-retirement link had to say about Ecuador! Made in the shade, baby.
I have known peeps who split to Costa Rica.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/ho...8450128380.html
Lots of different opinions. I guess a good place to live depends on the person. I've been through most of the US and could probably survive anywhere, but I kind of like it where I am. I think if I were going to move I'd stay in AZ and find a place just a bit higher and cooler.
Lots of different opinions. I guess a good place to live depends on the person. I've been through most of the US and could probably survive anywhere, but I kind of like it where I am. I think if I were going to move I'd stay in AZ and find a place just a bit higher and cooler.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ May 18 2005, 07:06 PM)
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/ho...8450128380.html
Lots of different opinions. I guess a good place to live depends on the person. I've been through most of the US and could probably survive anywhere, but I kind of like it where I am. I think if I were going to move I'd stay in AZ and find a place just a bit higher and cooler.
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Lots of different opinions. I guess a good place to live depends on the person. I've been through most of the US and could probably survive anywhere, but I kind of like it where I am. I think if I were going to move I'd stay in AZ and find a place just a bit higher and cooler.
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AZ got a lot of nods. So did all kinds of places you either wouldn't think of, or would reject.
Had to roar at this exchange:
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* Posted by: MikeR_ z5a CO (My Page) on Fri, Mar 28, 03 at 18:24
Don't know about the best places to live, but I can tell you that Colorado is one of the worst. The weather is terrible, it snows like you wouldn't believe. There are way too many people, everyone is unfriendly and to top it off most of the trees and plants in the state burned up last summer so it is charred and ugly here. Oh, and the bugs are horrible, too.
Please don't move here!
Don't know about the best places to live, but I can tell you that Colorado is one of the worst. The weather is terrible, it snows like you wouldn't believe. There are way too many people, everyone is unfriendly and to top it off most of the trees and plants in the state burned up last summer so it is charred and ugly here. Oh, and the bugs are horrible, too.
Please don't move here!
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* Posted by: Jungle_Jim zone 8 / WA (My Page) on Sun, May 4, 03 at 11:42
Mike, you're funny. You sound like an upset Oregonian who just had a family from So. California move in next door. LOL Jim
Mike, you're funny. You sound like an upset Oregonian who just had a family from So. California move in next door. LOL Jim
Word's out.
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I guess a good place to live depends on the person.
That "Find Your Spot" quiz is useful only in that it delineates a lot of choices, pretty simply, as far as what matters to you.
QUOTE(lil bart @ May 18 2005, 07:17 PM)
That "Find Your Spot" quiz is useful only in that it delineates a lot of choices, pretty simply, as far as what matters to you.
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For example, I would prefer a place with cr@ppy schools. Then people with kids don't move there, and you don't have to listen to a bunch of whining. The more a place spends on schools, the more they whine.
QUOTE(lil bart @ May 18 2005, 07:22 PM)
For example, I would prefer a place with cr@ppy schools. Then people with kids don't move there, and you don't have to listen to a bunch of whining. The more a place spends on schools, the more they whine.
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Maybe somewhere well know for child molesters as well. Possibly with a prison nearby.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ May 18 2005, 07:39 PM)
Maybe somewhere well know for child molesters as well. Possibly with a prison nearby.
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From the "Damn, it's always sumthin'" files.
How about Martinique in the French west indies? Not too expensive to buy into or live. Low utilities, cheap French wine.
Oh yeah, and nude beaches.
Oh yeah, and nude beaches.
Sounds good to me, though the only nude beach I've been to was a bit of a letdown.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ May 19 2005, 12:27 AM)
Sounds good to me, though the only nude beach I've been to was a bit of a letdown.
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It seems to me that those without suits should put them on and those with suits should take them off.
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ May 18 2005, 09:44 PM)
Huntsville Alabama area.
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Thanks,
Huntsville, that's and area highly recommended in some of
my research.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ May 18 2005, 08:49 PM)
How about New Mexico? Not too populous and you could find some higher elevations to stay cool. Low humidity in the southwest. That ranks high with me since I like to do a lot of outdoor activities and HATE bugs.
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Thought of New Mexico. Never been there.
Mentioning.....BUGS....got my attention. Anyplace that has no or few bugs will
get my consideration.
Vermont has a short summer season, and that pretty much is hampered by
bugs that bite. On any given day, you can get chewed into by bugs in the morning,
bugs in the afternoon, and bugs at night.
This is no exaggeration. Towards the end of March, I was doing some lawn work outside on a fairly warm evening. Still some snow on the ground and I get bit
by a mosquito! What's up with that!
QUOTE(lil bart @ May 18 2005, 09:59 PM)
Here he is:
http://www.findyourspot.com/survey/ReportV...7&REID=111&PL=8
Found via:
http://www.findyourspot.com/
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http://www.findyourspot.com/survey/ReportV...7&REID=111&PL=8
Found via:
http://www.findyourspot.com/
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Lil Bart,
Great site!
Took the quiz. First place that popped up....Hickory, North Carolina. Never been there.
Third place was Charleston, SC. Been there....Great area!
QUOTE(gtessex @ May 19 2005, 06:33 AM)
Thanks,
Huntsville, that's and area highly recommended in some of
my research.
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Huntsville, that's and area highly recommended in some of
my research.
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There's still plenty of rural area, green mountains, Tennessee River valley etc, but if you want to go into Huntsville, plenty to do, see, good food, etc. The town is pretty diverse due to people from all over the world coming to work in the aerospace industry. You can, however find relatively low priced propery in the mountains, just a few miles out of town. Low property taxes, and the state income tax isn't too bad. TVA electric power is reasonably priced. Mild winters, long summers.
QUOTE(gtessex @ May 19 2005, 04:54 AM)
This is no exaggeration. Towards the end of March, I was doing some lawn work outside on a fairly warm evening. Still some snow on the ground and I get bit
by a mosquito! What's up with that!
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I've gotten hit by a couple in the driest part of summer when I could swear there's no way they could find water to breed in. They're the perfect irritant. Here we have noceums (sp?). Can't see them except in a swarm but they will chew everything below knee level if you aren't careful.
Overall we don't have a lot of bug though.
I haven't spent a lot of time in New Mexico, but it's pretty to drive through. I sort of like it along the Rockies as you can have mountains and valleys both nearby. When it gets too hot down low you can pack up and cool off in the mountains, or ski when it's still nice down in the valley.
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ May 19 2005, 06:40 AM)
There's still plenty of rural area, green mountains, Tennessee River valley etc, but if you want to go into Huntsville, plenty to do, see, good food, etc. The town is pretty diverse due to people from all over the world coming to work in the aerospace industry. You can, however find relatively low priced propery in the mountains, just a few miles out of town. Low property taxes, and the state income tax isn't too bad. TVA electric power is reasonably priced. Mild winters, long summers.
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When my Dad worked in aerospace defense he was in Huntsville all the time. He liked it, and as a faux country boy engineer he fit right in.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ May 19 2005, 09:30 AM)
noceums (sp?)
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No see 'ums.
But I like your latin effort better.
I understand the idea(why you can't see them unless swarming), but I've actually seen it spelled as one word. Not sure they are one genus species phylum etc or just any damn little onboxious bug laying around in the grass.
http://www.google.com/search?q=noceums&hl=...ficial&filter=0
The Antipodes Expedition: From Ushuaia to Inuvik by Bicycle: Costa ...
... Unfortunately, it also had everything we didn't need: noceums, ants and more
unidentified biting insects. In the middle of the night we were surprised ...
http://www.google.com/search?q=noceums&hl=...ficial&filter=0
The Antipodes Expedition: From Ushuaia to Inuvik by Bicycle: Costa ...
... Unfortunately, it also had everything we didn't need: noceums, ants and more
unidentified biting insects. In the middle of the night we were surprised ...
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ May 19 2005, 09:37 AM)
I understand the idea(why you can't see them unless swarming), but I've actually seen it spelled as one word. Not sure they are one genus species phylum etc or just any damn little onboxious bug laying around in the grass.
http://www.google.com/search?q=noceums&hl=...ficial&filter=0
The Antipodes Expedition: From Ushuaia to Inuvik by Bicycle: Costa ...
... Unfortunately, it also had everything we didn't need: noceums, ants and more
unidentified biting insects. In the middle of the night we were surprised ...
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http://www.google.com/search?q=noceums&hl=...ficial&filter=0
The Antipodes Expedition: From Ushuaia to Inuvik by Bicycle: Costa ...
... Unfortunately, it also had everything we didn't need: noceums, ants and more
unidentified biting insects. In the middle of the night we were surprised ...
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Interesting.
Thanks.
QUOTE(SpaceCowboy @ May 19 2005, 08:41 AM)
Interesting.
Thanks.
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Thanks.
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I got the spelling from a family member who is an absolutely horrible speller. Don't know what came first, the noceum, or the no see em, but I know which way is easier to type.
And that's the way I'll be going.
Let's all go to Huntsville and visit Bart.
QUOTE(lil bart @ May 19 2005, 06:49 PM)
Let's all go to Huntsville and visit Bart.
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still up for a road trip?
Kansas..... inexpensive taxes
they even might pay you to move there if your are what they are looking for.....
QUOTE(csh @ May 19 2005, 02:12 PM)
still up for a road trip?
Kansas..... inexpensive taxes
they even might pay you to move there if your are what they are looking for.....
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Kansas..... inexpensive taxes
they even might pay you to move there if your are what they are looking for.....
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The question is, is Bart ready for company??!!
I'll check out Kansas. Somebody wrote a book called "What's the Matter With Kansas," so there's prob'ly something about it I'd like.
Not in the US....but worth a look into.
Anyone been to Panama?
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Retire...tyle/P81654.asp
http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/41/anual_retirement.html
Anyone been to Panama?
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Panama is one of the best places in the world for retirees today, combining a low cost of living, near-perfect weather and one of the world’s best discount programs for retirees, with up to 50% off everything from public transport to movies, mortgage rates, doctor’s visits, electricity, restaurants and airfares.
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Retire...tyle/P81654.asp
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For the second year running, Panama takes top honors in our Annual Global Retirement Index, which this year features 30 countries.
http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/41/anual_retirement.html
I'm ready. Bring your fishin' pole and golf clubs.
QUOTE(gtessex @ May 20 2005, 01:23 PM)
Not in the US....but worth a look into.
Anyone been to Panama?
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Retire...tyle/P81654.asp
http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/41/anual_retirement.html
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Anyone been to Panama?
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Retire...tyle/P81654.asp
http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/41/anual_retirement.html
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I heard that with the US military there ... it might be a good option.
I'd have to find out about the insects first. I saw a lot of things about disease there when they were building the canal.
I read one time along time ago that the spiders that hang around the banana trees are pretty toxic...I don't remember what the natural preditor is....but if you like lizards around.... Altitude might not be high enough, but they say as one gets older living at sea level is healthier.
I thought Tennese sounded pretty good they could use some 'new' blood there.
Altitude might not be high enough, but they say as one gets older living at sea level is healthier. I thought Tennese sounded pretty good they could use some 'new' blood there.
QUOTE(csh @ May 20 2005, 01:08 PM)
I read one time along time ago that the spiders that hang around the banana trees are pretty toxic...I don't remember what the natural preditor is....but if you like lizards around.... Altitude might not be high enough, but they say as one gets older living at sea level is healthier.
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That's one thing about the tropics..............Most likely they have all kinds of....BUGS! What kind, I don't know at this point.
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ May 20 2005, 02:43 PM)
I'm ready. Bring your fishin' pole and golf clubs.
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know anything about Sidney, NE?
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ May 20 2005, 07:43 AM)
I'm ready. Bring your fishin' pole and golf clubs.
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I'm just gonna borrow a pole from Under, a club from Riley, and a gun from you 'case those first two weapons aren't high-powered enough for my needs.
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