Arturo_Vandelay
Jul 23 2008, 04:11 AM
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Jul 22 2008, 08:18 PM)

Figgers.
Not ABC, NBC, CBS or MSNBC crooks and liars, but almost.
Nomarchy
Jul 23 2008, 03:26 PM
QUOTE (Obama_Akhbar @ Jul 22 2008, 08:03 PM)

That's exactly the kind of thinking which got us into this mess in the first place as nation. I have a right to assert my opinion and you have no right to dictate anything to me.
Words against words, dumbass. No one is dictating anything to you, you Canadian prick!
Obama_Akhbar
Jul 23 2008, 03:30 PM
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Jul 23 2008, 07:26 PM)

you Canadian prick!
HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE OF THAT poop?! PRICK I AGREE ON. CANADIAN NEVER
Bart Katz
Jul 23 2008, 04:41 PM
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Jul 23 2008, 10:26 AM)

Words against words, dumbass. No one is dictating anything to you, you Canadian prick!
SpaceCowboy
Jul 23 2008, 07:53 PM
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Jul 23 2008, 10:26 AM)

Words against words, dumbass. No one is dictating anything to you, you Canadian prick!
Rodger that.
Spot
Jul 23 2008, 08:41 PM
QUOTE (Obama_Akhbar @ Jul 23 2008, 08:30 AM)

HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE OF THAT poop?! PRICK I AGREE ON. CANADIAN NEVER

Dittos.
inyerface
Jul 23 2008, 08:41 PM
Faxes Suicide Letter To Mortgage Company, Then Fatally Shoots Herself
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/23/...in4287473.shtml
SpaceCowboy
Jul 23 2008, 08:44 PM
QUOTE (inyerface @ Jul 23 2008, 03:41 PM)

Faxes Suicide Letter To Mortgage Company, Then Fatally Shoots Herself
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/23/...in4287473.shtmlI had a friend who put her daughter through med school by suicide.
inyerface
Jul 23 2008, 08:52 PM
gee thanks mom....
Spot
Jul 23 2008, 08:52 PM
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Jul 23 2008, 01:44 PM)

I had a friend who put her daughter through med school by suicide.
I think that's kind of cruel. Suicide is selfish most of the time. Who needs that kind of guilt heaped on them.
SpaceCowboy
Jul 23 2008, 09:08 PM
QUOTE (Spot @ Jul 23 2008, 03:52 PM)

I think that's kind of cruel. Suicide is selfish most of the time. Who needs that kind of guilt heaped on them.
It was a rotten thing to do, though I'm sure she "meant well".
Spot
Jul 23 2008, 09:29 PM
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Jul 23 2008, 02:08 PM)

It was a rotten thing to do, though I'm sure she "meant well".
A lot of that is guilt and control. Martyr complex perhaps. It's probably easier to weather tough times with family than good times without, and even money or a college education doesn't always forestall tough times.
underhi2p
Aug 17 2008, 01:41 PM
1. Fix the gay and lesbian “problem” with the military
2. Fix the number of chillrin in the adult justice system
3. Fix Afghanistan
4. Fix Iraq
5. Fix the Confederate flag issue
6. Fix the number of peeps without health insurance
7. Fix the income gap
8. Fix the border
9. Fix investment in the National Institute of Health
10. Ensure Pakistan remains a democracy
11. Ensure Venezuela remains a democracy - help Venezuela become a democracy
12. Keep abortion the number one issue in America by invoking the ripping the fetus out of the uterus with a coat hanger story
13. Keep gay marriage the number two issue in America by not doing anything about it
14. "Fix" Bill Clinton.
15. Fix the stem cells.
16. Fix the infrastructure
17. Fix the educational system "to give" everyone high school and college diplomas whether earned or not! It's almost there now, it just needs a little more "fixin"!
18. Fix talk radio.
19. Fix this housing meltdown
20. Fix the economy
21. Enforce all regulations
22. Ban shredders
23. Move Hawaii closer to California
24. Add Africa as a 51st State
25. Add Indonesia as 52nd State
26. Add Iraq as 53rd State
27. Add Lebanon as 54th State
28. Add Kuaite as 55th State
29. Add Pakiistan as 56th State
30. Add Iran as 57th State
(he did mention he'd been to 57 states, didn't he?)
31. Redistribute the wealth
32. Turn empty churches into Mosques
33. Outlaw SUVs and Vans for families
34. Make a 4 day work week
35. Deliver mail 3 times a week
36. Ration gasoline
37. Raise Taxes
38. Raise interest rates
39. Ban Home Schooling
40. Eliminate speculating everywhere
41. Lower energy prices by taxing energy companies
42. Lower energy prices by taxing energy consumers
43. Lower energy prices by taxing taxpayers
44. Tax energy
45. Ban bullets
46. Fix yourself in 2009
47. Make the U.S. more business-friendly.
48. Open all of the U.S. to oil and gas drilling.
49. Allow everyone, in every state, to shoot any suspect of criminal activity on sight.
50. Ban the ACLU.
51. Ban testing - there's no proof that tests measure anything correctly
52.Fix floating chunks of ice in the oceans - they're a huge danger
53. Fix inmates in the U.S. making pennies to minimum wage - it's time for U.S. inmates to be paid a living wage
inyerface
Aug 17 2008, 01:44 PM
John Chrichton
Aug 18 2008, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Dec 12 2007, 06:02 PM)

We just have to get rid of that stupid market thing. Get on the five year plans and let gubmint run things like they do Medicare and the DMV.
Good idea. After a couple of them, we could gradumatate to "5 Year Plans in 4 Years". Worked for the USSR and Nazi Germany, why wouldn't it work for us?
John Chrichton
Aug 18 2008, 03:46 PM
QUOTE
32. Turn empty churches into Mosques
Turn ALL churches into Moscques.
underhi2p
Aug 29 2008, 01:45 AM
1. Fix the gay and lesbian “problem” with the military
2. Fix the number of chillrin in the adult justice system
3. Fix Afghanistan
4. Fix Iraq
5. Fix the Confederate flag issue
6. Fix the number of peeps without health insurance
7. Fix the income gap
8. Fix the border
9. Fix investment in the National Institute of Health
10. Ensure Pakistan remains a democracy
11. Ensure Venezuela remains a democracy - help Venezuela become a democracy
12. Keep abortion the number one issue in America by invoking the ripping the fetus out of the uterus with a coat hanger story
13. Keep gay marriage the number two issue in America by not doing anything about it
14. "Fix" Bill Clinton.
15. Fix the stem cells.
16. Fix the infrastructure
17. Fix the educational system "to give" everyone high school and college diplomas whether earned or not! It's almost there now, it just needs a little more "fixin"!
18. Fix talk radio.
19. Fix this housing meltdown
20. Fix the economy
21. Enforce all regulations
22. Ban shredders
23. Move Hawaii closer to California
24. Add Africa as a 51st State
25. Add Indonesia as 52nd State
26. Add Iraq as 53rd State
27. Add Lebanon as 54th State
28. Add Kuaite as 55th State
29. Add Pakiistan as 56th State
30. Add Iran as 57th State
(he did mention he'd been to 57 states, didn't he?)
31. Redistribute the wealth
32. Turn empty churches into Mosques
33. Outlaw SUVs and Vans for families
34. Make a 4 day work week
35. Deliver mail 3 times a week
36. Ration gasoline
37. Raise Taxes
38. Raise interest rates
39. Ban Home Schooling
40. Eliminate speculating everywhere
41. Lower energy prices by taxing energy companies
42. Lower energy prices by taxing energy consumers
43. Lower energy prices by taxing taxpayers
44. Tax energy
45. Ban bullets
46. Fix yourself in 2009
47. Make the U.S. more business-friendly.
48. Open all of the U.S. to oil and gas drilling.
49. Allow everyone, in every state, to shoot any suspect of criminal activity on sight.
50. Ban the ACLU.
51. Ban testing - there's no proof that tests measure anything correctly
52. Fix floating chunks of ice in the oceans - they're a huge danger
53. Fix inmates in the U.S. making pennies to minimum wage - it's time for U.S. inmates to be paid a living wage
54. Arrange to have hurricances stay offshore
55. Raise New Orleans above sea level and arrange to have the the displaced folks from New Orleans return with new, taxpayer funded homes.
John Chrichton
Aug 29 2008, 03:18 AM
QUOTE (Spot @ Jul 23 2008, 08:52 PM)

I think that's kind of cruel. Suicide is selfish most of the time. Who needs that kind of guilt heaped on them.
Was the woman Asian? Those people are known to pull those sorts of tricks. They are ruthless.
SpaceCowboy
Aug 29 2008, 03:25 AM
QUOTE (John Chrichton @ Aug 28 2008, 10:18 PM)

Was the woman Asian? Those people are known to pull those sorts of tricks. They are ruthless.
She was a very nice "white" American. Husband a hard working VN vet.
John Chrichton
Aug 29 2008, 03:31 AM
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Aug 29 2008, 03:25 AM)

She was a very nice "white" American. Husband a hard working VN vet.
My point is moot.
That's crazy though, how did the daughter respond to something like that? I know I would never be able to even think about medschool if it happened to me.
The most important thing that such a desperate, yet deeply honourable act underscores, is the dispicable shape in which we find our system of higher of education.
45,000 a year for a year in undergrad?
Nowhere else in the world would one find an atrocity like this.
Yes, US higher education, especially in engineering, medicine and business is the best in the world, but the robbery practiced by universities is not only unbelievable, it has reached levels of unprecedented audacity and obscenity.
John Chrichton
Sep 19 2008, 02:49 AM
56. Emerge at a solution, a final solution to the Jewish (banking) problem. They are ruining the country's economy. (Can't take credit for this one, courtesy of SherryB).
underhi2p
Sep 19 2008, 03:08 AM
1. Fix the gay and lesbian “problem” with the military
2. Fix the number of chillrin in the adult justice system
3. Fix Afghanistan
4. Fix Iraq
5. Fix the Confederate flag issue
6. Fix the number of peeps without health insurance
7. Fix the income gap
8. Fix the border
9. Fix investment in the National Institute of Health
10. Ensure Pakistan remains a democracy
11. Ensure Venezuela remains a democracy - help Venezuela become a democracy
12. Keep abortion the number one issue in America by invoking the ripping the fetus out of the uterus with a coat hanger story
13. Keep gay marriage the number two issue in America by not doing anything about it
14. "Fix" Bill Clinton.
15. Fix the stem cells.
16. Fix the infrastructure
17. Fix the educational system "to give" everyone high school and college diplomas whether earned or not! It's almost there now, it just needs a little more "fixin"!
18. Fix talk radio.
19. Fix this housing meltdown
20. Fix the economy
21. Enforce all regulations
22. Ban shredders
23. Move Hawaii closer to California
24. Add Africa as a 51st State
25. Add Indonesia as 52nd State
26. Add Iraq as 53rd State
27. Add Lebanon as 54th State
28. Add Kuaite as 55th State
29. Add Pakiistan as 56th State
30. Add Iran as 57th State
(he did mention he'd been to 57 states, didn't he?)
31. Redistribute the wealth
32. Turn empty churches into Mosques
33. Outlaw SUVs and Vans for families
34. Make a 4 day work week
35. Deliver mail 3 times a week
36. Ration gasoline
37. Raise Taxes
38. Raise interest rates
39. Ban Home Schooling
40. Eliminate speculating everywhere
41. Lower energy prices by taxing energy companies
42. Lower energy prices by taxing energy consumers
43. Lower energy prices by taxing taxpayers
44. Tax energy
45. Ban bullets
46. Fix yourself in 2009
47. Make the U.S. more business-friendly.
48. Open all of the U.S. to oil and gas drilling.
49. Allow everyone, in every state, to shoot any suspect of criminal activity on sight.
50. Ban the ACLU.
51. Ban testing - there's no proof that tests measure anything correctly
52. Fix floating chunks of ice in the oceans - they're a huge danger
53. Fix inmates in the U.S. making pennies to minimum wage - it's time for U.S. inmates to be paid a living wage
54. Arrange to have hurricances stay offshore
55. Raise New Orleans above sea level and arrange to have the the displaced folks from New Orleans return with new, taxpayer funded homes.
56. Emerge at a solution, a final solution to the Jewish (banking) problem. They are ruining the country's economy.
Nomarchy
Sep 19 2008, 05:40 AM
59. Abolish the Federal Reserve. Allow private banks to offer competing currencies, based on 100% reserves.
60. Abolish the LIBERAL mainstream media and LIBERAL gubment schools.
61. Fix it so that nobody can Afro-engineer this country Haiti, Kenya and Zimbabwe style.
62. Ban community organizing/agitating.
Arturo_Vandelay
Sep 19 2008, 06:23 AM
QUOTE
59. Abolish the Federal Reserve. Allow private banks to offer competing currencies, based on 100% reserves.
Reserves of what?
SpaceCowboy
Sep 19 2008, 06:45 AM
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Sep 19 2008, 01:23 AM)

Reserves of what?
Truthiness.
underhi2p
Sep 19 2008, 01:00 PM
. Fix the gay and lesbian “problem” with the military
2. Fix the number of chillrin in the adult justice system
3. Fix Afghanistan
4. Fix Iraq
5. Fix the Confederate flag issue
6. Fix the number of peeps without health insurance
7. Fix the income gap
8. Fix the border
9. Fix investment in the National Institute of Health
10. Ensure Pakistan remains a democracy
11. Ensure Venezuela remains a democracy - help Venezuela become a democracy
12. Keep abortion the number one issue in America by invoking the ripping the fetus out of the uterus with a coat hanger story
13. Keep gay marriage the number two issue in America by not doing anything about it
14. "Fix" Bill Clinton.
15. Fix the stem cells.
16. Fix the infrastructure
17. Fix the educational system "to give" everyone high school and college diplomas whether earned or not! It's almost there now, it just needs a little more "fixin"!
18. Fix talk radio.
19. Fix this housing meltdown
20. Fix the economy
21. Enforce all regulations
22. Ban shredders
23. Move Hawaii closer to California
24. Add Africa as a 51st State
25. Add Indonesia as 52nd State
26. Add Iraq as 53rd State
27. Add Lebanon as 54th State
28. Add Kuaite as 55th State
29. Add Pakiistan as 56th State
30. Add Iran as 57th State
(he did mention he'd been to 57 states, didn't he?)
31. Redistribute the wealth
32. Turn empty churches into Mosques
33. Outlaw SUVs and Vans for families
34. Make a 4 day work week
35. Deliver mail 3 times a week
36. Ration gasoline
37. Raise Taxes
38. Raise interest rates
39. Ban Home Schooling
40. Eliminate speculating everywhere
41. Lower energy prices by taxing energy companies
42. Lower energy prices by taxing energy consumers
43. Lower energy prices by taxing taxpayers
44. Tax energy
45. Ban bullets
46. Fix yourself in 2009
47. Make the U.S. more business-friendly.
48. Open all of the U.S. to oil and gas drilling.
49. Allow everyone, in every state, to shoot any suspect of criminal activity on sight.
50. Ban the ACLU.
51. Ban testing - there's no proof that tests measure anything correctly
52. Fix floating chunks of ice in the oceans - they're a huge danger
53. Fix inmates in the U.S. making pennies to minimum wage - it's time for U.S. inmates to be paid a living wage
54. Arrange to have hurricances stay offshore
55. Raise New Orleans above sea level and arrange to have the the displaced folks from New Orleans return with new, taxpayer funded homes.
56. Emerge at a solution, a final solution to the Jewish (banking) problem. They are ruining the country's economy.
57. Intentionally blank - Nomarchy "out-of-ordered" this important issues list.
58. supra
59. Abolish the Federal Reserve. Allow private banks to offer competing currencies, based on 100% reserves.
60. Abolish the LIBERAL mainstream media and LIBERAL gubment schools.
61. Fix it so that nobody can Afro-engineer this country Haiti, Kenya and Zimbabwe style.
62. Ban community organizing/agitating.
Nomarchy
Sep 19 2008, 03:17 PM
QUOTE
57. Intentionally blank - Nomarchy "out-of-ordered" this important issues list.
58. supra

all-around. That's some good poop!!!!!!
Goldie
Sep 19 2008, 06:08 PM
Raise the voting age
BrooklynBill
Sep 19 2008, 06:19 PM
1. Bring back 8-track
inyerface
Sep 19 2008, 07:34 PM
Nomarchy
Sep 20 2008, 03:07 PM
57. GUARANTEE STRONG, LONG-LASTING (BUT LESS THAN FOUR-HOURS' LONG) ERECTIONS TO ALL MEN AND TOE-CURLING ORGASMS TO ALL WOMEN DURING THE WORK-WEEK
Spot
Sep 20 2008, 03:41 PM
What about weekends?
SpaceCowboy
Sep 20 2008, 03:43 PM
QUOTE (Spot @ Sep 20 2008, 10:41 AM)

What about weekends?
Greedy wench!
Spot
Sep 20 2008, 03:50 PM
If we're going to make a list it might as well be a good one.
Nomarchy
Sep 20 2008, 04:00 PM
QUOTE (Spot @ Sep 20 2008, 08:50 AM)

If we're going to make a list it might as well be a good one.
One has to leave SOME room for 'free-enterprise', don't you think?
During the weekend, the go-get'em, indefatigable American spirit has to prevail. During the week, the Federal government will see to it.
SpaceCowboy
Sep 20 2008, 04:01 PM
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Sep 20 2008, 11:00 AM)

One has to leave SOME room for 'free-enterprise', don't you think?
During the weekend, the go-get'em, indefatigable American spirit has to prevail. During the week, the Federal government will see to it.
Very moderate of you.
underhi2p
Oct 21 2008, 01:28 AM
1. Fix the gay and lesbian “problem” with the military
2. Fix the number of chillrin in the adult justice system
3. Fix Afghanistan
4. Fix Iraq
5. Fix the Confederate flag issue
6. Fix the number of peeps without health insurance
7. Fix the income gap
8. Fix the border
9. Fix investment in the National Institute of Health
10. Ensure Pakistan remains a democracy
11. Ensure Venezuela remains a democracy - help Venezuela become a democracy
12. Keep abortion the number one issue in America by invoking the ripping the fetus out of the uterus with a coat hanger story
13. Keep gay marriage the number two issue in America by not doing anything about it
14. "Fix" Bill Clinton.
15. Fix the stem cells.
16. Fix the infrastructure
17. Fix the educational system "to give" everyone high school and college diplomas whether earned or not! It's almost there now, it just needs a little more "fixin"!
18. Fix talk radio.
19. Fix this housing meltdown
20. Fix the economy
21. Enforce all regulations
22. Ban shredders
23. Move Hawaii closer to California
24. Add Africa as a 51st State
25. Add Indonesia as 52nd State
26. Add Iraq as 53rd State
27. Add Lebanon as 54th State
28. Add Kuaite as 55th State
29. Add Pakiistan as 56th State
30. Add Iran as 57th State
(he did mention he'd been to 57 states, didn't he?)
31. Redistribute the wealth
32. Turn empty churches into Mosques
33. Outlaw SUVs and Vans for families
34. Make a 4 day work week
35. Deliver mail 3 times a week
36. Ration gasoline
37. Raise Taxes
38. Raise interest rates
39. Ban Home Schooling
40. Eliminate speculating everywhere
41. Lower energy prices by taxing energy companies
42. Lower energy prices by taxing energy consumers
43. Lower energy prices by taxing taxpayers
44. Tax energy
45. Ban bullets
46. Fix yourself in 2009
47. Make the U.S. more business-friendly.
48. Open all of the U.S. to oil and gas drilling.
49. Allow everyone, in every state, to shoot any suspect of criminal activity on sight.
50. Ban the ACLU.
51. Ban testing - there's no proof that tests measure anything correctly
52. Fix floating chunks of ice in the oceans - they're a huge danger
53. Fix inmates in the U.S. making pennies to minimum wage - it's time for U.S. inmates to be paid a living wage
54. Arrange to have hurricances stay offshore
55. Raise New Orleans above sea level and arrange to have the the displaced folks from New Orleans return with new, taxpayer funded homes.
56. Emerge at a solution, a final solution to the Jewish (banking) problem. They are ruining the country's economy.
57. Intentionally blank - Nomarchy "out-of-ordered" this important issues list.
58. supra
59. Abolish the Federal Reserve. Allow private banks to offer competing currencies, based on 100% reserves.
60. Abolish the LIBERAL mainstream media and LIBERAL gubment schools.
61. Fix it so that nobody can Afro-engineer this country Haiti, Kenya and Zimbabwe style.
62. Ban community organizing/agitating.
63. Bring back 8-track
64. Fix Michigan - bring this fine state back to its glory days when men made shitty cars in Detroit and women were baking fresh bread at home.
underhi2p
Oct 28 2008, 03:03 AM
1. Fix the gay and lesbian “problem” with the military
2. Fix the number of chillrin in the adult justice system
3. Fix Afghanistan
4. Fix Iraq
5. Fix the Confederate flag issue
6. Fix the number of peeps without health insurance
7. Fix the income gap
8. Fix the border
9. Fix investment in the National Institute of Health
10. Ensure Pakistan remains a democracy
11. Ensure Venezuela remains a democracy - help Venezuela become a democracy
12. Keep abortion the number one issue in America by invoking the ripping the fetus out of the uterus with a coat hanger story
13. Keep gay marriage the number two issue in America by not doing anything about it
14. "Fix" Bill Clinton.
15. Fix the stem cells.
16. Fix the infrastructure
17. Fix the educational system "to give" everyone high school and college diplomas whether earned or not! It's almost there now, it just needs a little more "fixin"!
18. Fix talk radio.
19. Fix this housing meltdown
20. Fix the economy
21. Enforce all regulations
22. Ban shredders
23. Move Hawaii closer to California
24. Add Africa as a 51st State
25. Add Indonesia as 52nd State
26. Add Iraq as 53rd State
27. Add Lebanon as 54th State
28. Add Kuaite as 55th State
29. Add Pakiistan as 56th State
30. Add Iran as 57th State
(he did mention he'd been to 57 states, didn't he?)
31. Redistribute the wealth
32. Turn empty churches into Mosques
33. Outlaw SUVs and Vans for families
34. Make a 4 day work week
35. Deliver mail 3 times a week
36. Ration gasoline
37. Raise Taxes
38. Raise interest rates
39. Ban Home Schooling
40. Eliminate speculating everywhere
41. Lower energy prices by taxing energy companies
42. Lower energy prices by taxing energy consumers
43. Lower energy prices by taxing taxpayers
44. Tax energy
45. Ban bullets
46. Fix yourself in 2009
47. Make the U.S. more business-friendly.
48. Open all of the U.S. to oil and gas drilling.
49. Allow everyone, in every state, to shoot any suspect of criminal activity on sight.
50. Ban the ACLU.
51. Ban testing - there's no proof that tests measure anything correctly
52. Fix floating chunks of ice in the oceans - they're a huge danger
53. Fix inmates in the U.S. making pennies to minimum wage - it's time for U.S. inmates to be paid a living wage
54. Arrange to have hurricances stay offshore
55. Raise New Orleans above sea level and arrange to have the the displaced folks from New Orleans return with new, taxpayer funded homes.
56. Emerge at a solution, a final solution to the Jewish (banking) problem. They are ruining the country's economy.
57. Intentionally blank - Nomarchy "out-of-ordered" this important issues list.
58. supra
59. Abolish the Federal Reserve. Allow private banks to offer competing currencies, based on 100% reserves.
60. Abolish the LIBERAL mainstream media and LIBERAL gubment schools.
61. Fix it so that nobody can Afro-engineer this country Haiti, Kenya and Zimbabwe style.
62. Ban community organizing/agitating.
63. Bring back 8-track
64. Fix Michigan - bring this fine state back to its glory days when men made shitty cars in Detroit and women were baking fresh bread at home.
inyerface
Oct 28 2008, 12:57 PM
Now that fiscal “conservatives” have devastated this country in ways that only the most knuckleheaded can deny (or blame on Barney Frank), it seems that “liberal” just doesn’t pack the epithetic wallop it once did. Just a few years ago, it was enough to tar a Democrat as a liberal to hurt him in the polls, but Barack Obama hasn’t even done much to evade the charge. People may just be thinking that the liberals might not be so bad, considering that they have turned out to be right about seemingly every policy argument of the past decade or so.
So what does a floundering Republican candidate say to damage his opponent’s image? Well he has to kick the red-scare machine up a notch. The next level up from “liberal” is “socialist.”
QUOTE
Sarah Palin runs a state that shares oil profits with its citizenry directly. That actually is socialism.
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/18243
Nomarchy
Oct 28 2008, 05:06 PM
Didn't men make great cars in Detroit as well, at some point?
arebuntz
Oct 28 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Oct 28 2008, 01:06 PM)

Didn't men make great cars in Detroit as well, at some point?
You mean before the union thugs and the incompetent gubment legislatures and bureaucrats regulated them out of business?
inyerface
Oct 28 2008, 07:31 PM
forced to underachieve
arebuntz
Oct 28 2008, 07:59 PM
QUOTE (inyerface @ Oct 28 2008, 03:31 PM)

forced to underachieve
achievement ceased to be the goal...
inyerface
Oct 28 2008, 08:12 PM
the goal became creating millionaires
arebuntz
Oct 28 2008, 08:37 PM
QUOTE (inyerface @ Oct 28 2008, 04:12 PM)

the goal became creating millionaires
Millionaire UAW leaders and Congressional members for sure...
underhi2p
Oct 28 2008, 08:38 PM
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Oct 28 2008, 01:06 PM)

Didn't men make great cars in Detroit as well, at some point?
Yeah, but the glory days of Detroit were "pre-japanese" during the 1970s.
This is when Detroit made the shittiest farking cars ever - in the universe, bar none - and ended up putting all the American car makers at a competetive disadvantage for their rest of their corporate lives.
Bart Katz
Oct 28 2008, 08:41 PM
The best American cars were made before WWII. After that, not so many.
Nomarchy
Oct 28 2008, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (arebuntz @ Oct 28 2008, 12:19 PM)

You mean before the union thugs and the incompetent gubment legislatures and bureaucrats regulated them out of business?
No, I didn't mean that.
So, Detroit made no good cars in the 1950s and 1960s . . .
Nomarchy
Oct 28 2008, 09:06 PM
QUOTE (underhi2p @ Oct 28 2008, 01:38 PM)

Yeah, but the glory days of Detroit were "pre-japanese" during the 1970s.
This is when Detroit made the shittiest farking cars ever - in the universe, bar none - and ended up putting all the American car makers at a competetive disadvantage for their rest of their corporate lives.
It was all the result of shitty workmanship, I am certain of it. Big Three Management, Design, engineering, etc. had nothing to do with the poor, crappy cars Detroit produced in the 1970s.
Arturo_Vandelay
Oct 28 2008, 10:51 PM
Blaming those fine union workers? The planned in planned obsolescence was, well, planned.
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