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It will all be ok when they make chocolate Mohammeds.
QUOTE (Innocent @ Nov 27 2008, 07:13 PM) 
Yeah they used to sell chocolate dicks and pussies every year around Easter when the candy companies were making bunnies, they'd make those too. Used to usually see them sold in bars.
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 27 2008, 08:55 PM)
Yeah they used to sell chocolate dicks and pussies every year around Easter when the candy companies were making bunnies, they'd make those too. Used to usually see them sold in bars.
Boy, I hope they have good quality control. Having a chocolate pussy show up in your child's Easter basket probably wouldn't go over well. Or maybe too well.
QUOTE (Innocent @ Nov 27 2008, 08:54 PM)
Boy, I hope they have good quality control. Having a chocolate pussy show up in your child's Easter basket probably wouldn't go over well. Or maybe too well.
Hahaha. I dunno. I think they were like small local chocolate molders.
WTF thread am I reading here?
QUOTE (Innocent @ Nov 27 2008, 05:04 PM)
So, other than giving you another opportunity to fantasize in a direction unrelated to the article, what do you think about the issue?
I actually posted it with you in mind - which hardly ever happens. It seems to me that the business owner had intentions similar to your own, but the Protestant and Catholic churches see it differently. I wondered how you'd see it - an inclusion of traditional Christian imagery into the consumer mosh pit that is the secular Christmas, or ruining the symbol of Jesus himself?
I actually posted it with you in mind - which hardly ever happens. It seems to me that the business owner had intentions similar to your own, but the Protestant and Catholic churches see it differently. I wondered how you'd see it - an inclusion of traditional Christian imagery into the consumer mosh pit that is the secular Christmas, or ruining the symbol of Jesus himself?
If I thought you had any possible motivation beyond denouncing religion at every opportunity I could approach your postings differently.
As it stands it is equally easy to mock fagdom ... be it with chocolate dicks or fisting for dollars.
Driver said God ordered 100-mph wreck
What, no exorcism?!?
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The driver of a pickup that struck a woman’s car on the South Side Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take the other car off the road, police said.
The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
“He just said God said she wasn’t driving right, and she needed to be taken off the road,” said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County Sheriff’s Office.
The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended her vehicle. The pickup’s driver told deputies that was driving in excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
The female was transported to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
“He just said God said she wasn’t driving right, and she needed to be taken off the road,” said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County Sheriff’s Office.
The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended her vehicle. The pickup’s driver told deputies that was driving in excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
The female was transported to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
What, no exorcism?!?
QUOTE (Innocent @ Nov 28 2008, 04:58 PM)
The driver or the pickup? Skimming over that I missed the "driver" part of the pickup driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
QUOTE (Repub_Bub @ Nov 28 2008, 09:19 AM)
If I thought you had any possible motivation beyond denouncing religion at every opportunity I could approach your postings differently.
You obviously have the opportunity the read the article with as clear a slate as anyone else and decide whether you agree with the businessman or the Churches. If you lack that capacity, that's your own failing.
I'm agnostic about religion itself, and wouldn't say that I "denounce religion at any opportunity," since I believe religion can serve important psychological functions for some people. Unfortunately, some people, like your self, also use religion as a club to attempt to harm others. Obviously after many years of being on the sharp end of the sticks of those, like yourself, who use religion for less than honorable purposes, I've come to understand the emptiness and danger of religious perspectives such as your own. In other words, it's not religion in general that's the issue, it's your religion.
QUOTE (Repub_Bub @ Nov 28 2008, 09:19 AM)
As it stands it is equally easy to mock fagdom ... be it with chocolate dicks or fisting for dollars.
What you fantasize about in the privacy of your own home, Bub, is your own business. I have no interest in hearing about the graphic details of your homoerotic fantasies. That's not the perspective I come from.
QUOTE (Spot @ Nov 28 2008, 07:09 PM)
The driver or the pickup? Skimming over that I missed the "driver" part of the pickup driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in Catholic schools, say church leaders
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Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in every Roman Catholic school, church leaders have said.
The Catholic bishops of England and Wales also want facilities in schools for Islamic pre-prayer washing rituals.
The demands go way beyond legal requirements on catering for religious minorities.
But the bishops - who acknowledge 30 per cent of pupils at their schools hold a non-Christian faith - want to answer critics who say religious schools sow division.
The recommendations have been approved by Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Birmingham and the favourite to succeed Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor as Catholic primate.
But it would be up to governing bodies of each school to decide whether to act on the guidance.
The Catholic bishops of England and Wales also want facilities in schools for Islamic pre-prayer washing rituals.
The demands go way beyond legal requirements on catering for religious minorities.
But the bishops - who acknowledge 30 per cent of pupils at their schools hold a non-Christian faith - want to answer critics who say religious schools sow division.
The recommendations have been approved by Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Birmingham and the favourite to succeed Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor as Catholic primate.
But it would be up to governing bodies of each school to decide whether to act on the guidance.
With corresponding respect for the Bible and Torah within Islamic countries and their mosques.
QUOTE (Hondo @ Dec 3 2008, 09:58 PM)
With corresponding respect for the Bible and Torah within Islamic countries and their mosques.
Somebody has to play the good guy. I'm glad to see them stepping up to the plate.
QUOTE (Innocent @ Dec 3 2008, 09:18 PM)
Somebody has to play the good guy. I'm glad to see them stepping up to the plate.
If Islam learns some mutual respect from it I'd be surprised. Pleased, but surprised.
QUOTE (Innocent @ Nov 7 2008, 05:43 PM)
Red Sex, Blue Sex
Why do so many evangelical teen-agers become pregnant?
Statistically, being an evangelical teenager is an indication of more premarital sex, more pregnancy, more STD's, and more divorce than the larger population. I wonder why?
Why do so many evangelical teen-agers become pregnant?
Statistically, being an evangelical teenager is an indication of more premarital sex, more pregnancy, more STD's, and more divorce than the larger population. I wonder why?
The conclusiion could also be stated that "statistically, being an evangelical teenager is an indication of less homosexual sex, less abortions, and less 'shacking up' and more marriage.
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Nov 7 2008, 06:33 PM)
Forbidden fruit? Interesting article. Sometimes I think they overlook variables in a hurry to use the stats available to prove their own point. Poor states with a lot of minorities have different problems than richer states with a large white middle class population.
Exactly! Figures Lie and Liars Figure.
A faulty premise always brings faulty results!
American teens lie, steal, cheat at 'alarming' rates: study
The increased cheating in religious schools may stem from the more competitive academic environment.
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American teenagers lie, steal and cheat more at "alarming rates," a study of nearly 30,000 high school students concluded Monday.
Boys were found to lie and steal more than girls.
Overall, 30 percent of students admitted to stealing from a store within the past year, a two percent rise from 2006. More than one third of boys (35 percent) said they had stolen goods, compared to 26 percent of girls.
An overwhelming majority, 83 percent, of public school and private religious school students admitted to lying to their parents about something significant, compared to 78 percent for those attending independent non-religious schools.
"Cheating in school continues to be rampant and it's getting worse," the study found. Amongst those surveyed, 64 percent said they had cheated on a test, compared to 60 percent in 2006. And 38 percent said they had done so two or more times.
Despite no significant gender differences on exam cheating, students from non-religious independent schools had the lowest cheating rate, 47 percent, compared to 63 percent of students attending religious schools.
Boys were found to lie and steal more than girls.
Overall, 30 percent of students admitted to stealing from a store within the past year, a two percent rise from 2006. More than one third of boys (35 percent) said they had stolen goods, compared to 26 percent of girls.
An overwhelming majority, 83 percent, of public school and private religious school students admitted to lying to their parents about something significant, compared to 78 percent for those attending independent non-religious schools.
"Cheating in school continues to be rampant and it's getting worse," the study found. Amongst those surveyed, 64 percent said they had cheated on a test, compared to 60 percent in 2006. And 38 percent said they had done so two or more times.
Despite no significant gender differences on exam cheating, students from non-religious independent schools had the lowest cheating rate, 47 percent, compared to 63 percent of students attending religious schools.
The increased cheating in religious schools may stem from the more competitive academic environment.
QUOTE (Goldie @ Dec 3 2008, 10:41 PM)
The conclusiion could also be stated that "statistically, being an evangelical teenager is an indication of less homosexual sex, less abortions, and less 'shacking up' and more marriage.
A fundamental misreading.
QUOTE (Hondo @ Dec 3 2008, 09:58 PM)
With corresponding respect for the Bible and Torah within Islamic countries and their mosques.
Remember when the muslims desecrated the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem? Muslims have shown contempt for Christian holy sites. Yasser Arafat decided to turn the Greek Orthodox monastery near the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem into his domicile during his visits to the city. On July 5, 1997, the PLO seized Abraham's Oak Russian Holy Trinity Monastery in Hebron, violently evicting monks and nuns.
After the outbreak of Palestinian violence in September 2000, the PA's Tanzim militia chose the Christian town of Beit Jala to shoot at Jerusalem over other locations from which they could have similarly targeted communities built on land captured in 1967. They specifically positioned themselves in or near Christian homes, hotels, churches (e.g., St. Nicholas), and the Greek Orthodox club, knowing that a slight deviation in Israeli return fire would harm Christian institutions or homes.
The majority of Christians in Isreal have fled the country due to being used as human sheilds and abused by muslims but no one seems to care.
QUOTE (Innocent @ Dec 3 2008, 10:44 PM)
American teens lie, steal, cheat at 'alarming' rates: study
The increased cheating in religious schools may stem from the more competitive academic environment.
The increased cheating in religious schools may stem from the more competitive academic environment.
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An overwhelming majority, 83 percent, of public school and private religious school students admitted to lying to their parents about something significant, compared to 78 percent for those attending independent non-religious schools.
Why are public schools lumped with religion schools instead of the non-religious schools? For statistical purposes only?
QUOTE (Innocent @ Dec 3 2008, 08:44 PM)
American teens lie, steal, cheat at 'alarming' rates: study
The increased cheating in religious schools may stem from the more competitive academic environment.
The increased cheating in religious schools may stem from the more competitive academic environment.
Seems that at least results should be better with so much cheating.
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Dec 3 2008, 11:01 PM)
Seems that at least results should be better with so much cheating.
So homeschooling brings better results.....
QUOTE (Goldie @ Dec 3 2008, 08:05 PM)
So homeschooling brings better results.....
What with all those jobs around capable of supporting an entire family on one income, I am sure homeschooling is the way to go for all. Let's take tax-money away from public schools and let's give it to, among others, religious freaks so that they can teach their medieval antiscientific BULLSHIT to more people. National suicide.
QUOTE (Goldie @ Dec 3 2008, 07:50 PM)
Remember when the muslims desecrated the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem? Muslims have shown contempt for Christian holy sites. Yasser Arafat decided to turn the Greek Orthodox monastery near the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem into his domicile during his visits to the city. On July 5, 1997, the PLO seized Abraham's Oak Russian Holy Trinity Monastery in Hebron, violently evicting monks and nuns.
After the outbreak of Palestinian violence in September 2000, the PA's Tanzim militia chose the Christian town of Beit Jala to shoot at Jerusalem over other locations from which they could have similarly targeted communities built on land captured in 1967. They specifically positioned themselves in or near Christian homes, hotels, churches (e.g., St. Nicholas), and the Greek Orthodox club, knowing that a slight deviation in Israeli return fire would harm Christian institutions or homes.
The majority of Christians in Isreal have fled the country due to being used as human sheilds and abused by muslims but no on seems to care.
After the outbreak of Palestinian violence in September 2000, the PA's Tanzim militia chose the Christian town of Beit Jala to shoot at Jerusalem over other locations from which they could have similarly targeted communities built on land captured in 1967. They specifically positioned themselves in or near Christian homes, hotels, churches (e.g., St. Nicholas), and the Greek Orthodox club, knowing that a slight deviation in Israeli return fire would harm Christian institutions or homes.
The majority of Christians in Isreal have fled the country due to being used as human sheilds and abused by muslims but no on seems to care.
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The PA has shown contempt for certain Christian holy sites, and there has been significant desecration as well. For example, without prior consent of the church, Yasser Arafat decided to turn the Greek Orthodox monastery near the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem into his domicile during his visits to the city.28 On July 5, 1997, the PLO seized Abraham's Oak Russian Holy Trinity Monastery in Hebron, violently evicting monks and nuns.29
After the outbreak of Palestinian violence in September 2000, the PA's Tanzim militia chose the Christian town of Beit Jala to shoot at Jerusalem over other locations from which they could have similarly targeted communities built on land captured in 1967. They specifically positioned themselves in or near Christian homes, hotels, churches (e.g., St. Nicholas), and the Greek Orthodox club, knowing that a slight deviation in Israeli return fire would harm Christian institutions or homes.30
After the outbreak of Palestinian violence in September 2000, the PA's Tanzim militia chose the Christian town of Beit Jala to shoot at Jerusalem over other locations from which they could have similarly targeted communities built on land captured in 1967. They specifically positioned themselves in or near Christian homes, hotels, churches (e.g., St. Nicholas), and the Greek Orthodox club, knowing that a slight deviation in Israeli return fire would harm Christian institutions or homes.30
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp490.htm
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Dec 4 2008, 01:18 AM)
What with all those jobs around capable of supporting an entire family on one income, I am sure homeschooling is the way to go for all. Let's take tax-money away from public schools and let's give it to, among others, religious freaks so that they can teach their medieval antiscientific BULLSHIT to more people. National suicide.
BST. Laid off people got plenty time for home schooling.
QUOTE (Nomarchy @ Dec 4 2008, 01:18 AM)
What with all those jobs around capable of supporting an entire family on one income, I am sure homeschooling is the way to go for all. Let's take tax-money away from public schools and let's give it to, among others, religious freaks so that they can teach their medieval antiscientific BULLSHIT to more people. National suicide.
Alright! Now we get to the state of the country. They have run the show for quite a while. We will have to work extra hard to overcome what they have done.
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Dec 4 2008, 02:47 AM)
BST. Laid off people got plenty time for home schooling.
It's possible that they will get a superior eduction without all the political correctness and revisionist history.
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Dec 3 2008, 11:47 PM)
BST. Laid off people got plenty time for home schooling.
Most of the home schooled kids I've met project much more integrity than many of the publicly schooled ones.
QUOTE (Repub_Bub @ Dec 4 2008, 06:40 PM)
Most of the home schooled kids I've met project much more integrity than many of the publicly schooled ones.
Of course they do.
QUOTE (Goldie @ Dec 4 2008, 03:00 PM)
It's possible that they will get a superior eduction without all the political correctness and revisionist history.
<shakes head> What color is the sky in your world?
QUOTE (Davis 2.0 @ Dec 4 2008, 05:25 PM)
<shakes head> What color is the sky in your world?
Yeah...couldn't be a real sky or real world without a little lefty political correctness.
QUOTE (Davis 2.0 @ Dec 4 2008, 08:25 PM)
<shakes head> What color is the sky in your world?
Think of it this way. Unless the parents and children are exceptional, the education will be inferior. Therefore that track takes them out into the wilderness where they aren't any tribble at all (Star Trek referrence).
QUOTE (Innocent @ Dec 4 2008, 11:58 PM)
Think of it this way. Unless the parents and children are exceptional, the education will be inferior. Therefore that track takes them out into the wilderness where they aren't any tribble at all (Star Trek referrence).
That may be your opinion but it is not accurate
Many studies over the last few years have established the academic excellence of homeschooled children.
I. Independent Evaluations of Homeschooling
1. In 1997, a study of 5,402 homeschool students from 1,657 families was released. It was entitled, "Strengths of Their Own: Home Schoolers Across America." The study demonstrated that homeschoolers, on the average, out-performed their counterparts in the public schools by 30 to 37 percentile points in all subjects. A significant finding when analyzing the data for 8th graders was the evidence that homeschoolers who are homeschooled two or more years score substantially higher than students who have been homeschooled one year or less. The new homeschoolers were scoring on the average in the 59th percentile compared to students homeschooled the last two or more years who scored between 86th and 92nd percentile. i
This was confirmed in another study by Dr. Lawrence Rudner of 20,760 homeschooled students which found the homeschoolers who have homeschooled all their school aged years had the highest academic achievement. This was especially apparent in the higher grades. ii This is a good encouragement to families catch the long-range vision and homeschool through high school.
Another important finding of Strengths of Their Own was that the race of the student does not make any difference. There was no significant difference between minority and white homeschooled students. For example, in grades K-12, both white and minority students scored, on the average, in the 87th percentile. In math, whites scored in the 82nd percentile while minorities scored in the 77th percentile. In the public schools, however, there is a sharp contrast. White public school eighth grade students, nationally scored the 58th percentile in math and the 57th percentile in reading. Black eighth grade students, on the other hand, scored on the average at the 24th percentile in math and the 28th percentile in reading. Hispanics scored at the 29th percentile in math and the 28th percentile in reading. iii
These findings show that when parents, regardless of race, commit themselves to make the necessary sacrifices and tutor their children at home, almost all obstacles present in other school systems disappear.
continued.... https://hslda.org/docs/nche/000010/200410250.asp
I wonder how emotionally stunted these homeschool kids are?
QUOTE (Davis 2.0 @ Dec 5 2008, 05:27 AM)
I wonder how emotionally stunted these homeschool kids are?
Quite possibly the purest rendition of pots and kettles ever spoken.
bub told us McCain would win big
QUOTE (Repub_Bub @ Dec 5 2008, 08:00 AM)
Quite possibly the purest rendition of pots and kettles ever spoken.
No doubt about it.
QUOTE (inyerface @ Dec 5 2008, 06:01 AM)
bub told us McCain would win big
Ya know...that's the second time I've seen you post that.
I don't recall posting anything regarding a win other than a hope.
Perhaps you could provide a link, apologize for your inane inaccuracies, or simply shut up.
QUOTE (Repub_Bub @ Dec 5 2008, 09:13 AM)
Ya know...that's the second time I've seen you post that.
I don't recall posting anything regarding a win other than a hope.
Perhaps you could provide a link, apologize for your inane inaccuracies, or simply shut up.
I don't recall posting anything regarding a win other than a hope.
Perhaps you could provide a link, apologize for your inane inaccuracies, or simply shut up.
You are giving him a difficult assignment. There was no link, he doesn't apologize so....
bub said it countless times
I have no need or desire to prove him to you or anyone else
he can't back up his drivel, and neither can you
I have no need or desire to prove him to you or anyone else
he can't back up his drivel, and neither can you
QUOTE (inyerface @ Dec 5 2008, 06:46 AM)
bub said it countless times
I have no need or desire to prove him to you or anyone else
he can't back up his drivel, and neither can you
I have no need or desire to prove him to you or anyone else
he can't back up his drivel, and neither can you
You are one totally empty mother farker.
the better to fill you with
emptiness is your forte'
emptiness is your forte'
Take a hike jerkwad
such eloquence
Just farkoff minawhacker.
curse, drool, repeat
Farkoff
repeat as needed
SUVs at the altar
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A pastor prays for the future of the American auto industry during a special service called 'A Hybrid Hope' at the Greater Grace Temple in Detroit, Michigan, December 7, 2008.(Carlos Barria/Reuters)
SUVs at altar, Detroit church prays for a bailout
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DETROIT (Reuters) – With sport-utility vehicles at the altar and auto workers in the pews, one of Detroit's largest churches on Sunday offered up prayers for Congress to bail out the struggling auto industry.
Local car dealerships donated three hybrid SUVs to be displayed during the service, one from each of the Big Three. A Ford Escape, Chevy Tahoe from GM and a Chrysler Aspen were parked just in front of the choir and behind the pulpit.
Ellis said he and other Detroit ministers would pray and fast until Congress voted on a bailout for Detroit's embattled automakers. He urged his congregation to do the same.
Other Detroit-area religious leaders -- including Christian, Muslim and Jewish leaders convened by Cardinal Adam Maida -- have urged Congress to approve an auto aid package.
Representing the 150,000 unionized workers at GM, Chrysler and Ford Motor Co, UAW Vice President General Holiefield said the industry had made its case for emergency funding as strongly as it could.
"We have done all we can do in this union, so I'm going to turn it over to the Lord," Holiefield told the congregation.
Local car dealerships donated three hybrid SUVs to be displayed during the service, one from each of the Big Three. A Ford Escape, Chevy Tahoe from GM and a Chrysler Aspen were parked just in front of the choir and behind the pulpit.
Ellis said he and other Detroit ministers would pray and fast until Congress voted on a bailout for Detroit's embattled automakers. He urged his congregation to do the same.
Other Detroit-area religious leaders -- including Christian, Muslim and Jewish leaders convened by Cardinal Adam Maida -- have urged Congress to approve an auto aid package.
Representing the 150,000 unionized workers at GM, Chrysler and Ford Motor Co, UAW Vice President General Holiefield said the industry had made its case for emergency funding as strongly as it could.
"We have done all we can do in this union, so I'm going to turn it over to the Lord," Holiefield told the congregation.
Televangelist Kenneth Copeland Denied Tax-Exemption for Use of Private Jet
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Televangelist Kenneth Copeland, under investigation by the Senate Finance Committee for allegedly diverting tax-exempt donations raised by his ministry for his personal gain, was dealt a blow by government officials in Fort Worth, Texas, on Monday. The Tarrant County Appraisal District review board ruled that Copeland's $3 million private jet was not subject to a tax exemption under local law. The board had tried to compel the Copelands to disclose church salaries -- presumably to determine whether funds intended for ministry use were being diverted. But the Copelands, who live in an 18,000 square foot house and own multiple cars and aircraft, refused.
That goes to the heart of the Senate Finance Committee investigation, which is examining whether churches -- which are exempt from filing tax returns, unlike nonreligious nonprofits -- need to have greater transparency with the public. The watchdog Trinity Foundation has turned over information to the committee showing that the Copelands, who say they use their jets strictly for ministry purposes, have used some of their jets for layovers in places like Hawaii and Fiji, when they apparently had no official engagements.
That goes to the heart of the Senate Finance Committee investigation, which is examining whether churches -- which are exempt from filing tax returns, unlike nonreligious nonprofits -- need to have greater transparency with the public. The watchdog Trinity Foundation has turned over information to the committee showing that the Copelands, who say they use their jets strictly for ministry purposes, have used some of their jets for layovers in places like Hawaii and Fiji, when they apparently had no official engagements.
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