It sounds like C-SPAN had something to do with the demise of
cspandemocrats & cspanrepublicans.
How
how
how
how!!!!
then does or did
THE CITIZENS FOR C-SPAN from the Seattle area "get to continue"
will the
THE CITIZENS FOR C-SPAN COMPANION NETWORKS follow???
can such an entity exhist??
to promote C-SPAN from a Grassroots effort
who owns PUBLIC AFFAIRS
the events C-SPAN records are copyrighted,
what's copyrighted???
the tape??
the expense of the effort???
the philosophy???
*******
why does the
National Cable Satellite Company seem like a big scarry monster????
Full Version: C-SPAN name in URL
That possibility had occurred to me. If you don't defend your copyrighted name, you lose it. Kleenex almost lost theirs. Corn flakes DID lose theirs.
I bet they just didn't pay the bill.
let me give you my other card
two things
1) who the heck is CM??? (i know if i keep reading i'll probably find out)
2) Independent Weblogs about C-SPAN, and the topics, has got to be better than dealing directly with C-SPAN
1) who the heck is CM??? (i know if i keep reading i'll probably find out)
2) Independent Weblogs about C-SPAN, and the topics, has got to be better than dealing directly with C-SPAN
CM is the C-Span community manager. She posted her picture on one of our C-Span topics(but I can't remember which) a real hottie.
The problem is with no community you don't need a manager, so she is probably long gone from C-Span.
Blogs are OK, but they aren't interactive enough for me. Merely commenting without any feedback leaves me a bit unsatisfied.
The problem is with no community you don't need a manager, so she is probably long gone from C-Span.
Blogs are OK, but they aren't interactive enough for me. Merely commenting without any feedback leaves me a bit unsatisfied.
thanks for the info
I think CM was only a part time CM who had another, real job. Probably, along with the Patriot Act requiring them to track IP numbers (which we know they didn't have because of their inability to successfully ban Bart and Eddie), among the reasons for the permanent shutdown.
I never saw anything in the Patriot act about tracking IP addresses. They've barely even followed up on the library monitoring everyone was so worried about.
Supposedly some parts of the Patriot act are yet to be used even today.
Supposedly some parts of the Patriot act are yet to be used even today.
QUOTE(SpeedRacerXxtreme @ Jul 30 2005, 08:04 PM)
I never saw anything in the Patriot act about tracking IP addresses. They've barely even followed up on the library monitoring everyone was so worried about.
Supposedly some parts of the Patriot act are yet to be used even today.
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Supposedly some parts of the Patriot act are yet to be used even today.
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It's not in the act itself, it's in the administrative rules made by the executive branch (in this case, DOJ) to implement the provisions of the Patriot Act.
We are in this case referring to the cybersecurity/anti-hacker provisions. One of the implementations was a requirement that boards like this one (that is, Invision, not AV) record and retain info on the IP node addresses of the users. Nothing nefarious there, it's been done by board operators for years, and it's how AV keeps Fast Eddie out of here.
The old C-SPAN Community board, however, either lacked the capability, or their staff lacked the knowledge of how to activate and use the feature. That's why CM was never able to effectively ban Eddie and Big Bart, why they could just re-register under new names. CM inexplicably (cause the software should have had the capability) couldn't seem to detect the IP address of the poster, and ban by IP address instead of banning by (fake or temporary) e-mail addys.
Like I said, nothing new or nefarious about it. The only diff is that the implementation of the Patriot Act provisions requires that IPs and outfits like Invision KEEP the records, rather than purging them after 3 or 6 months as used to be customary. But I suspect the concept was new to C-SPAN, and would have either required new software, or tech time to implement IP tracking.
Aren't you familiar with the good old TRACEROUTE command?
QUOTE(Friend Judy @ Jul 31 2005, 07:51 AM)
It's not in the act itself, it's in the administrative rules made by the executive branch (in this case, DOJ) to implement the provisions of the Patriot Act.
We are in this case referring to the cybersecurity/anti-hacker provisions. One of the implementations was a requirement that boards like this one (that is, Invision, not AV) record and retain info on the IP node addresses of the users. Nothing nefarious there, it's been done by board operators for years, and it's how AV keeps Fast Eddie out of here.
The old C-SPAN Community board, however, either lacked the capability, or their staff lacked the knowledge of how to activate and use the feature. That's why CM was never able to effectively ban Eddie and Big Bart, why they could just re-register under new names. CM inexplicably (cause the software should have had the capability) couldn't seem to detect the IP address of the poster, and ban by IP address instead of banning by (fake or temporary) e-mail addys.
Like I said, nothing new or nefarious about it. The only diff is that the implementation of the Patriot Act provisions requires that IPs and outfits like Invision KEEP the records, rather than purging them after 3 or 6 months as used to be customary. But I suspect the concept was new to C-SPAN, and would have either required new software, or tech time to implement IP tracking.
Aren't you familiar with the good old TRACEROUTE command?
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We are in this case referring to the cybersecurity/anti-hacker provisions. One of the implementations was a requirement that boards like this one (that is, Invision, not AV) record and retain info on the IP node addresses of the users. Nothing nefarious there, it's been done by board operators for years, and it's how AV keeps Fast Eddie out of here.
The old C-SPAN Community board, however, either lacked the capability, or their staff lacked the knowledge of how to activate and use the feature. That's why CM was never able to effectively ban Eddie and Big Bart, why they could just re-register under new names. CM inexplicably (cause the software should have had the capability) couldn't seem to detect the IP address of the poster, and ban by IP address instead of banning by (fake or temporary) e-mail addys.
Like I said, nothing new or nefarious about it. The only diff is that the implementation of the Patriot Act provisions requires that IPs and outfits like Invision KEEP the records, rather than purging them after 3 or 6 months as used to be customary. But I suspect the concept was new to C-SPAN, and would have either required new software, or tech time to implement IP tracking.
Aren't you familiar with the good old TRACEROUTE command?
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It sounds like if the DOJ actually had to do anything with all those IP adds it would be overwhelming. A lot of information with little to gain from it. I can see why board opps would want a record of IP addresses, but if every nut who advocated violence on a political forum was being tracked we'd would have to hire half of India to keep track of them.
As for the old board I was only a member for a few days and never really got in deep enough to remember much about it. I do recall it was small and simple, so maybe they just didn't have the technology to do anything that might be required now.
As much work and tech time as keeping track of all the video clips they keep must take you wouldn't think cutting and pasting a few ID adds would be a big problem.
I don't know anything about TRACEROUTE, but my firewall does some sort of trace for me.
TRACEROUTE and PING are DOS commands. They return (traceroute) a report of the exact path your inquiry took through the internet, and how many milliseconds each stage took. "Ping" simply checks to see if the destination address is on-line, and reports is/isn't, and how long the round trip took, sort of like yelling and timing the echo. Both are normally used to diagnose slow internet response, but can also be used to track down and block hackers and trolls like Eddie.
I'd be very surprised if the old c-span board actually lacked the capacity, since it's come as a standard built-in since Win95 came out, but they may not have incorporated it when they set up their boards, and been facing thousands of dollars to revamp to include it.
And it's actually a valuable tool for tracking terrorists, which is why you haven't heard me objecting to this provision of the Patriot Act, nor the administrative rules implementing it. No, of course they don't try to track down Miz for his rants, but TRACEROUTE runs both ways. You can start with a suspect's IP addy, and see where he's going, see if he's spoofing IP addys or accessing a dummy node to cover his trail, which gives you info about who he's talking to and if he's being sneaky about it.
It's how they locate those temporary fly-by-night Al Qeada web sites and stuff, and I really don't object. I was just noting that compliance can get expensive.
I'd be very surprised if the old c-span board actually lacked the capacity, since it's come as a standard built-in since Win95 came out, but they may not have incorporated it when they set up their boards, and been facing thousands of dollars to revamp to include it.
And it's actually a valuable tool for tracking terrorists, which is why you haven't heard me objecting to this provision of the Patriot Act, nor the administrative rules implementing it. No, of course they don't try to track down Miz for his rants, but TRACEROUTE runs both ways. You can start with a suspect's IP addy, and see where he's going, see if he's spoofing IP addys or accessing a dummy node to cover his trail, which gives you info about who he's talking to and if he's being sneaky about it.
It's how they locate those temporary fly-by-night Al Qeada web sites and stuff, and I really don't object. I was just noting that compliance can get expensive.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Jul 30 2005, 04:18 PM)
CM is the C-Span community manager. She posted her picture on one of our C-Span topics(but I can't remember which) a real hottie.
The problem is with no community you don't need a manager, so she is probably long gone from C-Span.
Blogs are OK, but they aren't interactive enough for me. Merely commenting without any feedback leaves me a bit unsatisfied.
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The problem is with no community you don't need a manager, so she is probably long gone from C-Span.
Blogs are OK, but they aren't interactive enough for me. Merely commenting without any feedback leaves me a bit unsatisfied.
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The CM posted her picture? And she is a real hottie?
WHy wasn't I notified?
Can a Greek brova have a lookie-see or what?
Somewhere a couple months back on one of the C-Span related topics. Sorry you missed it, might not be too hard to find. There are only a few directly related topic headers.
QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Jul 31 2005, 12:46 PM)
The CM posted her picture? And she is a real hottie?
WHy wasn't I notified?
Can a Greek brova have a lookie-see or what?
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WHy wasn't I notified?
Can a Greek brova have a lookie-see or what?
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Actually, I think I posted her picture. Somebody figured out her name, and I found her resume on the net as I recall. That's where I got her pic.
QUOTE(SpaceCowboy @ Jul 31 2005, 10:54 AM)
Actually, I think I posted her picture. Somebody figured out her name, and I found her resume on the net as I recall. That's where I got her pic.
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The resume got posted here by a guest. Didn't remember about the picture, but it was easy to find as she's been around the net doing work for women's orgs.
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Jul 31 2005, 01:02 PM)
The resume got posted here by a guest. Didn't remember about the picture, but it was easy to find as she's been around the net doing work for women's orgs.
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Yes, that's right. Her pic was up at one of those sites, I think.
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