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Goldie
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Jun 14 2008, 09:18 AM) *
A strange lefty at a loss for words. laugh.gif laugh.gif



How about Barack Hussein Obama's loss for words without a memorized speach or teleprompter

http://www.fighttheears.com/

inyerface

laugh.gif yeah bush would tear him apart in open debate laugh.gif
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Goldie @ Jun 14 2008, 12:30 PM) *
How about Barack Hussein Obama's loss for words without a memorized speach or teleprompter

http://www.fighttheears.com/


Pretty obvious there. He's not so inspiring without writers.
Goldie
OMAMA CONSIDERING WORLD TOUR


No word on possible stop in Kenya to say "Yo" to his bro.



WASHINGTON — Barack Obama may depart this summer from his road-warrior tour of election-battleground states to take a trip around the world, one intended to shore up his credentials on foreign policy.

With a foreign trip under discussion in the Obama camp, any itinerary almost certainly would include a stop in Iraq. That would be his first trip to the war zone since early 2006. It would be designed to answer Republican presidential candidate John McCain's criticism that antiwar Obama can't talk credibly about withdrawing U.S. forces since he hasn't been on the ground there since the 2007 troop buildup brought some military success.

While he's at it, Obama may extend his journey to other parts of the globe, especially Western Europe, where his racial mix, youth, optimism and themes of anti-Bush, multilateral diplomacy have generated impassioned interest in his candidacy.

Obama advisers are eager to find a way to harness his popularity overseas to boost his appeal to undecided voters back home, and to show that the 46-year-old freshman senator from Illinois can compete with McCain on foreign policy. While the Arizona senator is a veteran of war and Washington — and 25 years Obama's senior — his support for the Iraq war puts him on the losing side of public opinion.

Susan Rice, Obama's senior foreign-policy adviser, said Friday that "no decisions have been made" yet about whether Obama will travel abroad this summer, and if he does, where he'll go. However, she did confirm that the matter is under consideration and "I can't rule anything out."

A Pew Global Attitudes survey released Thursday found that people abroad feel more favorably toward either Obama or McCain than they do toward President Bush. But when they were asked how confident they are that the next president will make good foreign-policy decisions, Obama beat McCain in almost every nation, including 72-19 percent in Spain, 82-33 percent in Germany, 52-17 percent in Indonesia and 31-23 percent in Egypt.

Rice, who was an assistant secretary of state to President Clinton, said that Obama's international appeal stemmed from the fact that he "represents to the rest of the world the best of the American dream at a time when they have become disillusioned and disappointed with America. He's a new generation of leadership that's globally oriented and aware. By virtue of his family background and having lived abroad in his youth, he has a unique appreciation of different cultures, different societies, and represents an American leadership that's committed to more cooperative solutions."

For all that, there are pitfalls that Obama and his advisers must consider in deciding where to go, for how long, whom to see, what to say and how it might play back home.

If he goes to Israel, for example, does that anger Palestinians? If he talks to Palestinians there, does he turn off Jewish voters back home? Is Asia too far away for a quick visit, and if he could stop in only one Asian nation, which should it be? Obama's last trip to Africa generated a photo of him in traditional clothing that detractors spread on the Internet to suggest falsely that he's Muslim, so does he steer clear of there for now? And so on.

Some foreign-policy experts say that preliminary discussions about an Obama visit already are under way in their circles, and they expect that he'll make at least a few foreign stops, probably before the Democratic National Convention in late August.

"I do think he'll probably come," said John Hulsman, a scholar with the German Council on Foreign Relations, based in Berlin. "He's going to show he's a new kind of politician, and to do that you can't just go to London."

Hulsman suggested that in Iraq, Obama might consider staying outside the fortified Green Zone to show that he wants to see real conditions and to contrast his trip with McCain's infamous 2007 tour of an open-air Baghdad market. McCain claimed then, under the protection of helicopter guns and 100 U.S. troops, that people could "walk freely" there.

Hulsman also said that Obama could afford to skip Israel, Asia and Africa on this trip, as the political and economic factors in each venue were myriad and the time constraints real.

In Western Europe, Hulsman said, Obama is "fanatically popular. People here, they're mesmerized by the notion an African-American could be elected president. They see Obama talking and hear Kennedyesque strains in what he says, and think maybe America isn't as bad as they thought."

While Europeans typically prefer American Democratic presidential candidates to Republicans ideologically, Hulsman said, "this is more than the average. It's total disillusionment with the current administration," with which McCain is more closely tied.

Robin Shepherd, a senior research fellow at Chatham House, a London-based research center, said he didn't know anything about Obama's plans but that a limited foreign trip probably would help his candidacy and jump-start his diplomatic relations should he win in November.

"It's a difficult question, in the middle of a political campaign, whether it's sensible to be out of the country," Shepherd said. "There's a limit to how long he can spend away from America. But a week in Europe or Iraq, I don't see a problem with that."

Some Obama campaign backers privately acknowledge concerns about him leaving the country now, the argument being why take the risk when he's leading McCain slightly in national polls.

But Democratic officials said there could be upsides.

"I don't think voters are going to be told what to do by people in other countries," Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said in an interview this week. "But I think American voters would rather have the respect we had eight years ago than what's happened to us under Republicans. Restoring the American moral authority in the world under President Obama will be a big piece of this."

House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., said that on an overseas trip he made months ago to Asia and Australia, "people were telling me they saw in this election and in this candidate (Obama) the opportunity to once again look up to this country."

McCain spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said Friday that McCain had visited Iraq eight times since the 2003 invasion. When she was asked about McCain's summer plans, she said she couldn't disclose any upcoming travel.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/41022.html



patheticJT
QUOTE (Davis 2.0 @ Jun 14 2008, 04:13 PM) *
Whatever happend to your morals and values?



times they are a changin.

Weve got new morals and values coming...............from Father Pflager, Reverend Wright, Weatherman Underground Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko
inyerface
and where did the "old" ones come from?

"go fark yerself" cheney?

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Goldie


Obama Plans a Massive Hike in Social Security Taxes

June 13, 2008 03:09 PM ET
Barack Obama just found an extra $600 billion or so (over 10 years). He said today in Columbus, Ohio, that he wants to lift the income cap on Social Security taxes for folks making $250,000 a year or more. Here is a bit from his prepared speech:



Right now, the Social Security payroll tax is capped. That means most middle-class families pay this tax on every dime they make, while millionaires and billionaires are only paying it on a very small percentage of their income. That's why I think the best way forward is to adjust the cap on the payroll tax so that people like me pay a little bit more and people in need are protected. That way we can extend the promise of Social Security without shifting the burden onto seniors. And we should exempt anyone making under $250,000 from this increase so that the change doesn't burden middle-class Americans. This means that 97 percent of Americans will see absolutely no change in their taxes under my plan—97 percent.


Social Security guru Andrew Biggs over at the American Enterprise Institute has a run on a computer model a plan similar to Obama's. (Biggs extended the "donut hole" only to earners making up to $200,000.) Here is what he found



Given the scale of the tax rate increases—a 12.4 percentage point increase in tax rates for the highest earners—it is striking how little Obama's plan would accomplish. The GEMINI model estimates that Obama's plan eliminates only around 43 percent of Social Security's 75-year shortfall. Even after the plan's implementation, Social Security would face a 75-year shortfall of around 1.12 percent of payroll. . . . [The] Obama plan's modest improvements to Social Security's financing come at a steep cost: top marginal federal tax rates inclusive of federal income, Social Security, and Medicare taxes would increase from 37.9 percent to 50.3 percent... . Put another way, the Obama proposal is equivalent to repealing the Bush administration's reductions in top income tax rates from 39.6 percent to 35 percent almost three times over.




And here are the 10 states that would get hit the hardest by the Obama plan. (Data courtesy of the Tax Foundation and<A href="http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/05/biggest-losers.html" target=_new> TaxProf Blog):



1. New Jersey (10.7 percent of the state's workers would see their payroll taxes increase.)

2. Maryland (9.6 percent)

3. Connecticut (9.5 percent)

4. Virginia (9.0 percent)

5. Massachusetts (8.9 percent)

6. California (8.8 percent)

7. New York (8.0 percent)

8. Illinois (7.02 percent)

9. Colorado (6.96 percent)

10. New Hampshire (6.8 percent)



Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Jun 14 2008, 10:37 AM) *
Pretty obvious there. He's not so inspiring without writers.



How come his writer doesn't run?
Goldie
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Jun 14 2008, 10:58 AM) *
How come his writer doesn't run?



He's got 20 speechwriters!
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Goldie @ Jun 14 2008, 10:56 AM) *
Obama Plans a Massive Hike in Social Security Taxes
June 13, 2008 03:09 PM ET
Barack Obama just found an extra $600 billion or so (over 10 years). He said today in Columbus, Ohio, that he wants to lift the income cap on Social Security taxes for folks making $250,000 a year or more. Here is a bit from his prepared speech:



It deoesn't affect me, why should I care? What if everyone who makes over poverty level just give it all to the government?
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Goldie @ Jun 14 2008, 11:00 AM) *
He's got 20 speechwriters!


One guy is like his main man. I can't remember the name, but he does know at least one word. Change. rolleyes.gif
Goldie



Far too many issues, Obama's poetry doesn't rhyme

Barack Obama is such a stand-up guy that he'll stand up twice — once for each side of an issue. The poetry reading on change and hope...


Barack Obama is such a stand-up guy that he'll stand up twice — once for each side of an issue. The poetry reading on change and hope is over. Now that he has to talk about real policy, there's little rhyme in the rhythm.

Take James Johnson, who was Obama's adviser on picking a vice president until his resignation Wednesday. Nothing wrong with rich businessmen. They can be smart and help solve America's problems. But Johnson's chief specialty has been in helping himself.

He has apparently been a "friend of Angelo" — that is, Angelo Mozilo, the former head of the infamous mortgage monger Countrywide Financial. Like other well-connected "friends," Johnson received mega mortgages from Countrywide at rates considerably below that offered the average toiler.

But that's not the worst part. Johnson was CEO of Fannie Mae, a giant corporation that buys mortgages from private lenders. Fannie mortgages enjoy a taxpayer subsidy in the form of an implied government guarantee. Thus, Fannie Mae was of enormous use to Countrywide. In 1995, Mozilo let Wall Street know that he was "working very closely" with Johnson.

That's still not the worst part. The least appetizing entry on the Johnson résumé reads "Santa Claus of the executive suite." While sitting on the UnitedHealth Group board of directors, Johnson agreed to grant then-CEO William McGuire a legendary $1.4 billion in stock options.

For his services, Johnson was soon made head of the compensation committee at UnitedHealth — and at four other companies, where he made sure that the top men were generously rewarded. And he didn't do badly himself. UnitedHealth, for one, gave him $175 million in stock options on top of his annual director's fee of $400,000.

Bluntly put, Johnson had participated in the looting of the American health-care system. In one ugly example, UnitedHealth tried two years ago to dump St. Joseph Health Services, of Rhode Island, from its network after the Catholic nonprofit objected to the insurer's ludicrously low reimbursement levels. It was noted at the time that McGuire's most recent stock option cash-out ($124 million, modest by the standards of "Dollar Bill") was 150 percent of what St. Joseph's 2,000 employees made put together.

And to think that Obama last year introduced a Senate bill to rein in executive compensation.

On nuclear energy: Last December in Iowa, a young woman asked Obama, "Are you truly comfortable with the safety of nuclear energy?"

He responded, "Let me tell you that I start off with the premise that nuclear energy is not optimal; so I am not a nuclear-energy proponent."

Then last month in Miami, he told a largely Hispanic audience, "We'll assess the opportunities and risks of nuclear power in the hemisphere by sitting down with Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and Chile." He called for a Department of Energy program to "share technology" with the countries.

Barron's energy columnist Jim McTague heard dueling statements and asked Obama's spokesman for a clarification. The response was, "I think you are reading too much into the speech." O-kay.

On Jerusalem: Obama told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee last week that "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and others protested, and the campaign issued a statement the next day that Obama "did not rule out Palestinian sovereignty over parts of Jerusalem."

Whatever. The ultimate disposition of Jerusalem should be up to the Israelis and Palestinians, with the United States serving coffee while they hash it out. But if Obama wants to stake a position, is it too much to ask that he hold it a week?

What does Obama really believe on these issues? Beats me.

Goldie

Obama support's SCOTUS 5/4 decision to give enemy compatants housed on foreign soil American Civil Rights.

McCain blasts Obama's support of detainee ruling

BY LARRY EICHEL | The Philadelphia Inquirer June 14, 2008

PEMBERTON, N.J. - Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain on Friday denounced the U.S. Supreme Court decision granting broader legal rights to the detainees at Guantánamo Bay as "one of the worst ... in history" and blasted Democrat Barack Obama for endorsing it.

Speaking with reporters after a town-hall meeting at Burlington County College here, McCain predicted the court's ruling would damage the nation's ability to wage war on terrorism.

"Sen. Obama applauds this decision, and he supports it," McCain said. "I argue against it and will do what I can to at least narrow down some of the wide-open aspects of the Supreme Court decision."

On Thursday, Obama hailed the high court ruling, which was issued that day and gave the detainees the right to challenge their detention in federal court, regardless of whether they are U.S. citizens. He called it "an important step toward re-establishing our credibility as a nation committed to the rule of law."


During the town hall meeting and a subsequent news conference here, McCain also discussed the impasse that has developed between the two presidential campaigns over his proposal for the candidates to stage 10 joint town hall meetings - one per week until the Democratic convention. McCain appeared at the first of a series in Manhattan on Thursday.

The Obama campaign responded by calling for one town hall meeting on the economy in July and a foreign-policy debate in August, in addition to the three already-scheduled debates in September and October.

McCain called Obama's offer "very disappointing." In turn, David Plouffe, Obama's campaign manager, said he was "disappointed" at the McCain campaign's rejection of the Obama plan, which Plouffe said would provide the most face-to-face contact between major-party candidates in the modern era.

The two candidates also became embroiled Friday in a dispute over their plans for Social Security. Campaigning in Ohio before his arrival in Philadelphia, Obama said he would expand the reach of the payroll tax as a way to put the system on a more sound financial footing.

The tax, 6.2 percent paid both by employee and employer, currently applies to only the first $102,000 of wages an individual earns. Under the Obama plan, it would apply also to all wages above $250,000.

Obama said he would exempt people in between "so that the change doesn't burden middle-class
Americans." In the past, the Democrat has talked about expanding the payroll tax but has been vague

on exactly who would pay it. McCain characterized the position Obama announced Friday as "a complete reversal" of his previous stance.

http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/...0,6040596.story

inyerface
Goldie
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Jun 14 2008, 11:04 AM) *
One guy is like his main man. I can't remember the name, but he does know at least one word. Change. rolleyes.gif


and HOPE!



** Jon Favreau, 26, chief speechwriter to Senator Barack Obama. He was John Kerry's writer.



**Obama'a Secret speech writer Deval Patrick, the governor of Massachusetts

**David Rhodes, Fox News' senior VP of newsgathering, is the older brother of Ben Rhodes, one of the speechwriters responsible for Obama's orotund oratory.

** Obama plagiarizes Mario Cuomo from 1984

How Obama's speechwriters say they work


QUOTE
"What I do is to sit with him for half an hour. He talks and I type everything he says. I reshape it, I write. He writes, he reshapes it. That's how we get a finished product. It's a great way to write speeches. A lot of times, you write something, you hand it in, it gets hacked by advisers, it gets to the candidate and then it gets sent back to you. This is a much more intimate way to work."


laugh.gif laugh.gif
Look at the Puppet struggle with his speechwriter's words

http://obambi.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/loo...hwriters-words/





You know if he really felt so strong about these issues, he would know them by heart.

The teleprompter is to help you, not to carry your entire speech.

All politicians use it at one time or another but with Obama, you can clearly see he is just a puppet, and didnt write any of this and doesnt know anything about the economy.






inyerface
patheticJT
Check this video out of an Obama campaign office opening in Houston.

Notice whats on the wall..........

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Ho...mp;pageId=1.1.1

what do you think AV?

And how about this Ohio judge who supports Obama..............

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=266585
Davis 2.0
QUOTE (Lord_Proprietor @ Jun 14 2008, 11:28 AM) *
He's lucky he's not a white, male Crisitian!



You sure you want to get into the superstitious side of this?

Christian.
Davis 2.0
QUOTE (inyerface @ Jun 14 2008, 12:32 PM) *
laugh.gif yeah bush would tear him apart in open debate laugh.gif


Who? Snagglepuss?
inyerface


Goldie
QUOTE (patheticJT @ Jun 14 2008, 01:10 PM) *
Check this video out of an Obama campaign office opening in Houston.

Notice whats on the wall..........

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Ho...mp;pageId=1.1.1

what do you think AV?




I think it's very revealing. What do you think?
Goldie
QUOTE (patheticJT @ Jun 14 2008, 01:10 PM) *
Check this video out of an Obama campaign office opening in Houston.

Notice whats on the wall..........

And how about this Ohio judge who supports Obama..............

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=266585





There's something funny about this picture of the Ohio judge who on Tuesday threw out Ohio's death penalty procedure. But I can't quite put my finger on it...

Hmmmm...... I give up. What is it?



Goldie
OBAMA JUDGE WORRIES ABOUT CONVICTED KILLERS FEELING PAIN
(My guess would be that he is unconcerned about the pain that aborted babies, without having had either due process or habeus corpus feel.)




ELYRIA, Ohio (AP) — A judge in Ohio says the state's method of putting prisoners to death is unconstitutional because two of three drugs used in the lethal injection process can cause pain.Lorain County Common Pleas Judge James Burge said Tuesday the state's lethal injection procedure doesn't provide the quick and painless death required by Ohio law.

Burge said Ohio must stop allowing a combination of drugs and focus instead on a single, anesthetic drug.

The ruling is likely be appealed to the Ohio Supreme Court.

Ohio has executed 26 inmates since it resumed putting prisoners to death in 1999.


Lorain County common pleas judge James Burge speaks in his office in Lorain, OH
as posters of Barack Obama and Che Guevera hang behind him.

WHAT'S THE DEAL?
Che Guevera and Barack Obama can be on display in a public building but NOT the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
inyerface
do not vote for Che
Bee
It's soooo creepy to see a poster talking to itself.

Whatever legion. You need help. Call Fast Eddie.
Goldie
QUOTE (Bee @ Jun 14 2008, 04:46 PM) *
It's soooo creepy to see a poster talking to itself.

Whatever legion. You need help. Call Fast Eddie.


Barack and Che are communicating?
patheticJT
Must be psueds everywhere............. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Bee
QUOTE (Goldie @ Jun 14 2008, 07:56 PM) *
Barack and Che are communicating?



You're so transparent it isn't even sporting to out you...

I'm sure everyone knows, they're just being kind.
inyerface
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Goldie


Goldie




Davis 2.0
I figured it was JT talking to himself.
Goldie

WARNING:: SHARP LEFT TURN AHEAD



…But having cornered himself among Democratic activists whose attitudes toward Social Security reform range from demagoguery to denial, Mr. Obama has recently veered sharply left. He now proposes to solve the looming Social Security shortfall exclusively with higher taxes.


Not exactly a novel concept nor a CHANGE for the left!
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (patheticJT @ Jun 14 2008, 01:10 PM) *
Check this video out of an Obama campaign office opening in Houston.

Notice whats on the wall..........

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Ho...mp;pageId=1.1.1

what do you think AV?

And how about this Ohio judge who supports Obama..............

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=266585



I heard about it already. Che was a leftist assasin, not a nice caring liberal. What is Obama now and what would he be given great power? We may find out. Sometimes I have to wonder if lefties really believe in the good intentions of guys like Che, or if they just wear the tee-shirts and hang the flags out of some sort of defiance.
inyerface

Arturo_Vandelay
Davis 2.0
dueling dingos
Bart Katz
QUOTE (patheticJT @ Jun 14 2008, 03:10 PM) *
Check this video out of an Obama campaign office opening in Houston.

Notice whats on the wall..........

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Ho...mp;pageId=1.1.1

what do you think AV?

And how about this Ohio judge who supports Obama..............

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=266585


Good grief. Fargin commies.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (patheticJT @ Jun 14 2008, 07:04 PM) *
Must be psueds everywhere............. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You got your pseuds and then you got your paranoids who see pseuds everywhere. rolleyes.gif
Davis 2.0
Then you got yer rightwingers who need to create a strawman to win arguments or even an imaginary friend they can talk to.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Jun 14 2008, 07:30 PM) *
Good grief. Fargin commies.


Well duh. I just wonder about the why. Do they really want equality, albeit sharing less, or is it about control? Where does Obama turn into Chavez or Castro?
Davis 2.0
In the twisted mind of a heroin junkie?
inyerface

In the twisted mind of an erroring honkie
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Jun 14 2008, 09:41 PM) *
Well duh. I just wonder about the why. Do they really want equality, albeit sharing less, or is it about control? Where does Obama turn into Chavez or Castro?


Can they all be that stupid?
Davis 2.0
Apparently the vision happens with moonshine as well.
patheticJT
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Jun 15 2008, 03:32 AM) *
You got your pseuds and then you got your paranoids who see pseuds everywhere. rolleyes.gif


You got it. thes guys are better than the marx brothers. Lefties blow a circuit and everybody is a psued..

Have another drink............. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
patheticJT
QUOTE (Davis 2.0 @ Jun 15 2008, 03:40 AM) *
Then you got yer rightwingers who need to create a strawman to win arguments or even an imaginary friend they can talk to.



then you got yer left wingers that piss and moan, scream and shout profanities wet their pants and have no sense of humor what so over. Anyone they cant convince they have to "out" as pseud.

Great comedy especially when you get accused for being a psued.

Keep it going goldie!
patheticJT
Hey just curious how does it work when Goldie and I are on at the same time?


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Bart Katz
QUOTE (patheticJT @ Jun 15 2008, 12:08 AM) *
Hey just curious how does it work when Goldie and I are on at the same time?


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Pseuds with pseuds in pseuds on pseuds with pseuds.

rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
Lord_Proprietor
QUOTE (Goldie @ Jun 14 2008, 06:43 PM) *
OBAMA JUDGE WORRIES ABOUT CONVICTED KILLERS FEELING PAIN
(My guess would be that he is unconcerned about the pain that aborted babies, without having had either due process or habeus corpus feel.)




ELYRIA, Ohio (AP) — A judge in Ohio says the state's method of putting prisoners to death is unconstitutional because two of three drugs used in the lethal injection process can cause pain.Lorain County Common Pleas Judge James Burge said Tuesday the state's lethal injection procedure doesn't provide the quick and painless death required by Ohio law.

Burge said Ohio must stop allowing a combination of drugs and focus instead on a single, anesthetic drug.

The ruling is likely be appealed to the Ohio Supreme Court.

Ohio has executed 26 inmates since it resumed putting prisoners to death in 1999.


Lorain County common pleas judge James Burge speaks in his office in Lorain, OH
as posters of Barack Obama and Che Guevera hang behind him.

WHAT'S THE DEAL?
Che Guevera and Barack Obama can be on display in a public building but NOT the TEN COMMANDMENTS?


"Che Guevera and Barack Obama can be on display in a public building but NOT the TEN COMMANDMENTS?"

The base, (25%) of the democrat party, is a socialistic oriented group - yes! And the liberal courts seem to protect them in every case.
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