yeah and Tillman was killed by terrorists in an ambush

I greatly appreciate you reposting everything for me

Ditto...

No answers here kids... sorry...

so nice you know the truth from the lies

..to complete the analogy you think it was Dick and Rummy with his duck hunting rifle who shot Tillman...

No answers here kids... sorry...

Thanks... easy to filter out the bs you offer... just look for your name on the post...

No answers here kids... sorry...

for the actually serious, who can think for themselves

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8119854514684528700

caution: facts

Wow. And you worked on really important parts of airliners!

That's a scary thought.

You working with young minds in education is a scary thought as well.

He thinks Inyer is a genius...whaddaya want?

don't confuse KNOWING YOU AREN'T with what you might think that means

is correct

you have zero proof PLUS the story doesn't hold up.

IF you actually do the research, you'll find that the military changed its story about what happened that day and there have never been agreements with norad and the commission that sync up.



the commission FAILED TO INCLUDE building 7??? WTF?

the transportation secretary and the vp stories clash



the head of the commission goes back to poppy bush and wrote a book with condi rice? WTF?

why read when you can copy and paste pathetic drama

they were told what to believe and that's good enough

much like Obama's 2008 Campaign

as opposed to little bigmac's

Do arab terrorists hi-jack planes? Yes absolutely.

had anyone ever conceived that arab terrorists would crash a high-jacked plane into a building or something else? LOL Yes absolutely.


Did pnac say in one of their ideological screeds that a new Pearl Harbor was required to further their aims of world domination? Yes absolutely.


Did republicans send U.S. bioweapons to their political opposition in the mail? Yes absolutely.


Was there a full investigation into US government failures on 9/11? Not even close.


Could a 747 or other large aircraft be made to fly by remote control? Why not? (A lot easier to simply let terrorists do the dirty work)


Were the trade center buildings brought down by demolition charges? Sure looked like it. That was of course after a couple of giant planes full of fuel crashed into two of them. Still doesnt make sense to me that they collapsed clear to the ground. I could see from the impact area up sloughing off to the side or something. And that in no way explains bldg 7.

No answers here kids... sorry...

Is it really? Let's discuss this in a different forum, if you like.

Fly safely...

No answers here kids... sorry...

Thank you. The same to you.

No answers here kids... sorry... (kids, WTF stands for we talkin' foolishness)

No answers here kids... sorry...

Look who's talkin'.

Well why didn't you say that before? If it doesn't make sense to you then that proves it...

Thank you...

Doesn't that mean he's calling all the widows, widowers and orphans from WTC-1 and WTC-2 liars and frauds?

Well, ya can't have a terrorist act/statement or a national tragedy without 'em. Can't get yer omlette without breaking a few eggs.

What was operation northwoods again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Among a lot of others.

So, I see you've joined the arebuntz dubious logic club, yourself.

Funny, another rightwing engineer. It must be the "words" that throw you all off. If it's numbers, your logic is A-OK.

The words are unfounded accusations, based on leaps of logic, not facts.

That would perfectly describe the official story.

Just like that lying Warren commission.

I don't know about the Warren commission... I never read or saw it.

What I have seen has convinced me that they got at least some of it right(single shooter).

I was less than a year old when the Kennedy assassination happened... I don't know enough about it to really say one way or the other.

I saw what happened on 9-11... and I have read the 9-11 commission...

What I have seen has convinced me that they got a whole lot of it wrong.

I think I've shown an ability to distinguish between the two events as two different things... with an open mind in both cases.

Show me some evidence that will convince me that the official story of 9-11 is correct... if it's convincing enough, I'll admit it.

What evidence has soo convinced you that the official story is correct?

Nothing will ever convince you. It's tens of thousands of times more complex than the JFK assassination to analyze and and 45 years later you're just barely coming to believe the "official story".

I believe a small group formulated a fairly simple plan and completed 75% of it. Nothing super complex. Just a coordinated surprise attack unlike any before it. About as simple as that. Late for tennis. Don't be too mad at Arebuntz, he single-handedly got this thread going again. Even the noobs are looking at it.

One of the weird things about a forum situation. The things that anger people are also what keep things going.

And coming back.

Got tennis, gotta run.

Ohh, on the contrary, I could be convinced... but it would take something substantial.

Much more substantial that what you've offered here... or what the government has offered... in fact, the obvious lies and ommissions that the government has put forth only serves to damn their story in my perception.

The truth would convince me.

I don't think any of you who buy the official story have actually given it a critical thought. I can't see how, if you had, that you wouldn't at the least admit that at least some of it is at the very least stange and bizarre... and suspicious.

Let's remember what this thread is about.

Should there be another, more acceptable, 9-11 investigation? One that actually looks at all the possibilities, including complicity by elements of our own government.

I wholehearteldy say YEAS! and if they did it right, they might even convince me... even me... and possibly even you... and possibly even all of US... and we might even be able to someday get past it.

As it is... at least half the population doesn't wholly believe the official story... and we will never get past it.

You should read AV's post again...he said that you would likely require 45 years to "come around" to the official view.

Virtually everyone on the board has indicated that the simplest scenario was the most likely...those of us who have tried to engage you in rational discussion have been met with nothing but more of the same endless questions.

Follow along Pengi... he is not saying the folks who died in WTC Towers on 9/11 did not die in the TWC Towers on 9/11... that the WTC Towers did not even exist... That is what Inyer and CR do with the four commercial aircraft and the folks on board on a regular basis...

Never implemented...

Good thing you don't design airplanes... you don't know your wings...

Nineteen al queda members hijacked four commercial aircraft and crashed them into three buildings and a field...

No answers in the following nonsense kids... sorry...

Nineteen al queda members hijacked four commercial aircraft and crashed them into three buildings and a field...

No answers in the following nonsense kids... sorry...

All I would require is some truthful answers to my questions.

You offer no questions... nor answers.

I know it's hard to accept... but noo, what you're offering here(nothing:~) will never convince me.

Something substantial... what do you have that is substantial... substantial enough that I won't be able to question it.


Don't you have any questions about the official story?... any questions at all?

You've got to do better than this.

What soo convinces you of the official story?

Nineteen al queda members hijacked four commercial aircraft and crashed them into three buildings and a field...

No answers in the following nonsense kids... sorry...

Just the same basic one...how many folks do you REALISTICALLY believe an administration conspiracy would require.?

You offered vague and, for any degree of realism, meager, ill-defined, and simplistic numbers...that tells me you either enjoy prolonging the conspiracy or don't have usefull analytical skills.

And you accuse me of answering you with questions...

Okay, once again... I'll attempt to answer your question... even though you won't answer any of mine.

My answer is that I believe it would require as many or less than what the official conspiracy theory requires... I gave you a number before, do you recall what it was?

Perhaps you, being so reality-based, well-defined and non-simplistic with such useful analytical skills, will inform US how many participants the official conspiracy theory requires.

How many?