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underhi2p
Palin For President 2012 Website Crashes: McCain Operatives Trashing Palin


The same GOP establishment Bush/McCain political operatives and "so called" strategists who failed in their campaign to elect John McCain president are failing again in their savage attempt to destroy the political career of Sarah Palin. The Sarah Palin For President in 2012 website received more traffic and support since the attacks began following the election than in the entire period leading up to the election. This campaign is similar to their attacks on Congressman Ron Paul and the results are the same.


Ron Holland runs the website www.palin4pres2012.com and Sarah Gilreath the blog at http://palin4pres2012.blogspot.com/ until the official committee is established.


Maybe the GOP establishment and their Neocon and Wall Street special interests should try the politics of inclusion instead of exclusion for a change and welcome real conservative supporters and candidates into the Republican Party. Although the GOP establishment has almost destroyed the Republican Party, real conservatives will come together and restore the GOP to the original Ronald Reagan vision of fiscal and social conservatism.


"At least the website crash will give us the opportunity to maybe catch up and reply to all the people wanting to join the Sarah Palin For President 2012 grassroots campaign," says Ron Holland.


Keep up the good work, McCain operatives as your "keystone cops" approach to the McCain presidential campaign elected Obama president in the 2008 election and your attacks are just what we need to start the Sarah Palin For President in 2012 campaign for the GOP nomination for president.


Maybe these operatives should work for the Democrats in the next election so they will be defeated. Then again, considering their performance to date, maybe they were working for the Democrats during the 2008 election.

www.palin4pres2012.com


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underhi2p
Palin blames Bush for GOP defeat
Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:16:50 GMT


Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin
Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has blamed the Bush administration for Republican's defeat in the 2008 presidential vote.

"I think the Republican ticket represented too much of the status quo, too much of what had gone on in these last eight years," Palin said in an interview with the Anchorage Daily News at Wasilla Sunday afternoon, referring to the Bush presidency from 2000 to 2008.

Alaska Governor Palin made the remarks after former Republican candidate John McCain lost the November 4 election last week to President-elect Barack Obama.

Palin also criticized President George W. Bush's war policies in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"How did we run up a $10 trillion debt in a Republican administration, how have there been blunders with war strategy under a Republican administration," she asked.

When asked about her political future, the Alaska Governor did not rule out a run for president or vice president in 2012.

Earlier, a poll found out that 64% of Republicans would choose Palin as the GOP presidential nominee for the 2012 election.

AGB/DT

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=74910...ctionid=3510203

inyerface

yep

republicans are still idiots
SpaceCowboy
Greta will have her interview with Sarah on tonight's show.
underhi2p
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Nov 10 2008, 08:10 PM) *
Greta will have her interview with Sarah on tonight's show.



Off the charts ratings?

SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (underhi2p @ Nov 10 2008, 07:13 PM) *
Off the charts ratings?

We'll have to see.
Mizilus
isnt that on MSNBiotCh? never watch it.
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (Mizilus @ Nov 10 2008, 07:16 PM) *
isnt that on MSNBiotCh? never watch it.

10 pm EST Fox.
SpaceCowboy
"Sarah Under Siege"
Bart Katz
In the second segment Greta and Sarah do a strip off.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 10 2008, 06:25 PM) *
In the second segment Greta and Sarah do a strip off.



Is Greta a girl? If so I might turn away from the Cardinals game for a minute or two.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Nov 10 2008, 07:27 PM) *
Is Greta a girl? If so I might turn away from the Cardinals game for a minute or two.


Greta Van Susterenenen of OJ trial and CNN fame.
Davis 2.0
OSarah bin Palin.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 10 2008, 06:29 PM) *
Greta Van Susterenenen of OJ trial and CNN fame.


Wanna see it naked? I have my doubts.
inyerface

before & after

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/newlook/greta/face.html
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Nov 10 2008, 07:37 PM) *
Wanna see it naked? I have my doubts.


She's rugged.
Arturo_Vandelay
To sit through the OJ trial you'd have to be. I listened on radio, but I could go home and forget about it at night. The journalists lived and breathed it from start to finish. 24/7
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Nov 10 2008, 07:53 PM) *
To sit through the OJ trial you'd have to be. I listened on radio, but I could go home and forget about it at night. The journalists lived and breathed it from start to finish. 24/7


That's how she got her start on TV.
inyerface



Porn director offers her, husband staring role
$2 million and a snowmobile for Palin-porn
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/11/11/59926.html

Alaska’s Governor Sarah Palin has received a different kind of job offer after she failed to beat Joe Biden in the U.S. vice-presidential race.
underhi2p
QUOTE (inyerface @ Nov 11 2008, 12:00 PM) *
Porn director offers her, husband staring role
$2 million and a snowmobile for Palin-porn
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/11/11/59926.html

Alaska’s Governor Sarah Palin has received a different kind of job offer after she failed to beat Joe Biden in the U.S. vice-presidential race.



My bowling team has offered $5,000,000 to The Baby Jesus and Shelley Obama to do a porn movie in the White House.

We have yet to receive a response.

inyerface

did you show them the money?
SpaceCowboy
Sarah Palin Speaks!
By Peter Suderman

I do not know what this means:

QUOTE
"Sitting here in these chairs that I’m going to be proposing but in working with these governors who again on the front lines are forced to and it’s our privileged obligation to find solutions to the challenges facing our own states every day being held accountable, not being just one of many just casting votes or voting present every once in a while, we don’t get away with that. We have to balance budgets and we’re dealing with multibillion dollar budgets and tens of thousands of employees in our organizations."


http://culture11.com/blogs/theconfabulum/2...h-palin-speaks/
CharlieRay
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Davis 2.0
QUOTE
"Sitting here in these chairs that I’m going to be proposing but in working with these governors who again on the front lines are forced to and it’s our privileged obligation to find solutions to the challenges facing our own states every day being held accountable, not being just one of many just casting votes or voting present every once in a while, we don’t get away with that. We have to balance budgets and we’re dealing with multibillion dollar budgets and tens of thousands of employees in our organizations."


There went my last two brain cells.
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (Davis 2.0 @ Nov 14 2008, 08:12 AM) *
There went my last two brain cells.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
Davis 2.0
blink.gif blink.gif

omg


A Palin clone. Better looking though.
Davis 2.0
QUOTE
i personally believe that u.s americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have maps and i believe that our education like such as south africa and the iraq everywhere like such as and i believe that they should our education over here in the u.s. should help the u.s. or should help south africa and should help the iraq and asian countries so we will be able to build up our future for.
underhi2p
Palin's Coattails
Her popularity saves Don Young

Much has been made of Governor Sarah Palin's wardrobe in recent weeks. But no one is more thankful for her long coattails than fellow Republican politicians in Alaska.

Don Young, the state's lone U.S. Representative, is headed back to the House to serve a 19th term. After barely surviving a primary challenge in August, Mr. Young was declared the victor Wednesday over his Democratic opponent, Ethan Berkowitz. With about 30,000 votes still to be counted, Mr. Young was ahead, 50% to 45%.

Meanwhile, the Senate contest between 40-year incumbent Ted Stevens and his Democratic rival, Mark Begich, remains too tight to call. On Friday, Mr. Stevens was trailing by about 800 votes with 35,000 ballots yet to tally.

Both Messrs. Stevens and Young sought re-election under an ethical cloud that's as thick as the mosquitoes in a Fairbanks summer. The week before Election Day, Senator Stevens was convicted on seven felony counts of failing to disclose gifts and services he had received from Veco Corp., an oil contractor. Congressman Young is also being investigated for his connections to Veco, whose former CEO has pleaded guilty to bribing state officials.

Without Sarah Palin's name next to John McCain's at the top of the ticket on November 4, Mr. Young's victory would have been much less likely, and the Stevens race might not even have been close. Governor Palin's popularity in the state helped to drive up GOP turnout and certainly assisted both tainted incumbents. Mr. McCain and Governor Palin carried the state, 60%-38%, though Democrats talked even after Labor Day about making it competitive.

The irony is that Sarah Palin distinguished herself in Alaskan politics as a reformer, someone who took on corruption and cronyism within a GOP establishment that both Messrs. Stevens and Young represent. They owe her a debt of gratitude, though it's probably too much to hope that either man would change his ways.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122670574255229689.html
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (underhi2p @ Nov 15 2008, 04:54 PM) *
Palin's Coattails
Her popularity saves Don Young

Much has been made of Governor Sarah Palin's wardrobe in recent weeks. But no one is more thankful for her long coattails than fellow Republican politicians in Alaska.

Don Young, the state's lone U.S. Representative, is headed back to the House to serve a 19th term. After barely surviving a primary challenge in August, Mr. Young was declared the victor Wednesday over his Democratic opponent, Ethan Berkowitz. With about 30,000 votes still to be counted, Mr. Young was ahead, 50% to 45%.

Meanwhile, the Senate contest between 40-year incumbent Ted Stevens and his Democratic rival, Mark Begich, remains too tight to call. On Friday, Mr. Stevens was trailing by about 800 votes with 35,000 ballots yet to tally.

Both Messrs. Stevens and Young sought re-election under an ethical cloud that's as thick as the mosquitoes in a Fairbanks summer. The week before Election Day, Senator Stevens was convicted on seven felony counts of failing to disclose gifts and services he had received from Veco Corp., an oil contractor. Congressman Young is also being investigated for his connections to Veco, whose former CEO has pleaded guilty to bribing state officials.

Without Sarah Palin's name next to John McCain's at the top of the ticket on November 4, Mr. Young's victory would have been much less likely, and the Stevens race might not even have been close. Governor Palin's popularity in the state helped to drive up GOP turnout and certainly assisted both tainted incumbents. Mr. McCain and Governor Palin carried the state, 60%-38%, though Democrats talked even after Labor Day about making it competitive.

The irony is that Sarah Palin distinguished herself in Alaskan politics as a reformer, someone who took on corruption and cronyism within a GOP establishment that both Messrs. Stevens and Young represent. They owe her a debt of gratitude, though it's probably too much to hope that either man would change his ways.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122670574255229689.html


Sarah saved their butts.

They should be kissing her Naughty Monkeys up there.
Davis 2.0
I'm sure they'd be willing. More than a few men would.
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE (Davis 2.0 @ Nov 15 2008, 05:09 PM) *
I'm sure they'd be willing. More than a few men would.

Watch the Greta stuff if you would like to get to know Sarah.
Davis 2.0
Greta offsets any of Palin's good looks. Like kryptonite affects Superman.
celtcahill
Another NE elitists opinion:

http://cavett.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/14...ith-of-wasilla/

QUOTE
By Dick Cavett:


November 14, 2008, 10:00 pm
The Wild Wordsmith of Wasilla
Electronic devices dislike me. There is never a day when something isn’t ailing. Three out of these five implements — answering machine, fax machine, printer, phone and electric can-opener — all dropped dead on me in the past few days.

Now something has gone wrong with all three television sets. They will only get Sarah Palin.

I can play a kind of Alaskan roulette. Any random channel clicked on by the remote brings up that eager face, with its continuing assaults on the English Lang.

There she is with Larry and Matt and just about everyone else but Dr. Phil (so far). If she is not yet on “Judge Judy,” I suspect it can’t be for lack of trying.

What have we done to deserve this, this media blitz that the astute Andrea Mitchell has labeled “The Victory Tour”?

I suppose it will be recorded as among political history’s ironies that Palin was brought in to help John McCain. I can’t blame feminists who might draw amusement from the fact that a woman managed to both cripple the male she was supposed to help while gleaning an almost Elvis-sized following for herself. Mac loses, Sarah wins big-time was the gist of headlines.

I feel a little sorry for John. He aimed low and missed.

What will ambitious politicos learn from this? That frayed syntax, bungled grammar and run-on sentences that ramble on long after thought has given out completely are a candidate’s valuable traits?

And how much more of all that lies in our future if God points her to those open-a-crack doors she refers to? The ones she resolves to splinter and bulldoze her way through upon glimpsing the opportunities, revealed from on high.

What on earth are our underpaid teachers, laboring in the vineyards of education, supposed to tell students about the following sentence, committed by the serial syntax-killer from Wasilla High and gleaned by my colleague Maureen Dowd for preservation for those who ask, “How was it she talked?”

My concern has been the atrocities there in Darfur and the relevance to me with that issue as we spoke about Africa and some of the countries there that were kind of the people succumbing to the dictators and the corruption of some collapsed governments on the continent, the relevance was Alaska’s investment in Darfur with some of our permanent fund dollars.

And, she concluded, “never, ever did I talk about, well, gee, is it a country or a continent, I just don’t know about this issue.”

It’s admittedly a rare gift to produce a paragraph in which whole clumps of words could be removed without noticeably affecting the sense, if any.

(A cynic might wonder if Wasilla High School’s English and geography departments are draped in black.)

(How many contradictory and lying answers about The Empress’s New Clothes have you collected? I’ve got, so far, only four. Your additional ones welcome.)

Matt Lauer asked her about her daughter’s pregnancy and what went into the decision about how to handle it. Her “answer” did not contain the words “daughter,” “pregnancy,” “what to do about it” or, in fact, any two consecutive words related to Lauer’s query.

I saw this as a brief clip, so I don’t know whether Lauer recovered sufficiently to follow up, or could only sit there, covered in disbelief. If it happens again, Matt, I bequeath you what I heard myself say once to an elusive guest who stiffed me that way: “Were you able to hear any part of my question?”

At the risk of offending, well, you, for example, I worry about just what it is her hollering fans see in her that makes her the ideal choice to deal with the world’s problems: collapsed economies, global warming, hostile enemies and our current and far-flung twin battlefronts, either of which may prove to be the world’s second “30 Years’ War.”

Has there been a poll to see if the Sarah-ites are numbered among that baffling 26 percent of our population who, despite everything, still maintain that President George has done a heckuva job?

A woman in one of Palin’s crowds praised her for being “a mom like me … who thinks the way I do” and added, for ill measure, “That’s what I want in the White House.” Fine, but in what capacity?

Do this lady’s like-minded folk wonder how, say, Jefferson, Lincoln, the Roosevelts, et al (add your own favorites) managed so well without being soccer moms? Without being whizzes in the kitchen, whipping up moose soufflés? Without executing and wounding wolves from the air and without promoting that sad, threadbare hoax — sexual abstinence — as the answer to the sizzling loins of the young?

(In passing, has anyone observed that hunting animals with high-powered guns could only be defined as sport if both sides were equally armed?)

I’d love to hear what you think has caused such an alarming number of our fellow Americans to fall into the Sarah Swoon.

Could the willingness to crown one who seems to have no first language have anything to do with the oft-lamented fact that we seem to be alone among nations in having made the word “intellectual” an insult? (And yet…and yet…we did elect Obama. Surely not despite his brains.)

Sorry about all of the foregoing, as if you didn’t get enough of the lady every day in every medium but smoke signals.

I do not wish her ill. But I also don’t wish us ill. I hope she continues to find happiness in Alaska.

May I confess that upon first seeing her, I liked her looks? With the sound off, she presents a not uncomely frontal appearance.

But now, as the Brits say, “I’ll be glad to see the back of her.”

**********

PS: Lagniappe for English mavens: A friend of mine has made you laugh greatly over the years. David Lloyd is a comic genius (I can hear you wince, David) who wrote for “The Mary Tyler Moore Show,” “Cheers,” “Taxi,” “Frasier,” Jack Paar, Johnny Carson and me, not necessarily in that order. As a language fan, he has preserved many gems for posterity in his prodigious memory bank. Here comes my favorite:

A Navy lecturer was talking about some directives on the blackboard that he said to do something about, “except for these here ones with the asteroids in back of.”

Even David couldn’t make that up.

Bart Katz
Never weres and washed up has been write blogs.
celtcahill
He certainly was, and the fact is the anti-intellectual nature of mass entertainment and CNNFauxNewsTainment doesn't lend itself to intelligent use of language or anything else.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (celtcahill @ Nov 15 2008, 06:06 PM) *
He certainly was, and the fact is the anti-intellectual nature of mass entertainment and CNNFauxNewsTainment doesn't lend itself to intelligent use of language or anything else.


What's anti-intellectual about talking like you talk and like the common folk where you come from? Most of that stuff that's been quoted don't sound all that bad when you listen to the actual audio/videos. Also the dude is citing sources of some stuff that just ain't true. Not very intellectual in my book.
Davis 2.0
QUOTE
Dick Cavett:


That was priceless and absolutely on target.
Davis 2.0
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 15 2008, 06:08 PM) *
What's anti-intellectual about talking like you talk and like the common folk where you come from? Most of that stuff that's been quoted don't sound all that bad when you listen to the actual audio/videos. Also the dude is citing sources of some stuff that just ain't true. Not very intellectual in my book.



She sounds like a babbling idiot. She makes no sense whatsoever.
Bart Katz
"It is undisputed that Cavett has a lengthy history of mental illness, and has in the past been diagnosed as suffering from manic-depressive illness."

http://bipolar.about.com/cs/celebs/a/dickcavett.htm
Repub_Bub
QUOTE (celtcahill @ Nov 15 2008, 03:40 PM) *

Dick Cavett...I really miss that guy.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Repub_Bub @ Nov 15 2008, 06:29 PM) *
Dick Cavett...I really miss that guy.


He's farking crazy but they think it's that he's an intellectual.
celtcahill
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 15 2008, 06:08 PM) *
What's anti-intellectual about talking like you talk and like the common folk where you come from? Most of that stuff that's been quoted don't sound all that bad when you listen to the actual audio/videos. Also the dude is citing sources of some stuff that just ain't true. Not very intellectual in my book.



Post his falsehoods then.

Half my in-laws are from Alaska and they are all more intelligent, informed and aware of domestic and international affairs than she is and they are all more articulate, even the one that voted for McCain/Palin.

There's nothing common about her, she's a member of that carpet-bag class that moved into the upper middle class of Alaska directly from the lower 48 and think they own it, invented it and have it by right.

My In-laws got there in the mid-fifties, married local and their grandchildren will be the next generation of born and raised in Alaska from Alaskans who will be in charge up there for the first time. I can tell you the first generation of actual Alaskans are quite different from the picture presented by Palin whatever her positives.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 15 2008, 05:29 PM) *
"It is undisputed that Cavett has a lengthy history of mental illness, and has in the past been diagnosed as suffering from manic-depressive illness."

http://bipolar.about.com/cs/celebs/a/dickcavett.htm



Overrated from the start. Seemed like he made a career of name-dropping and using other people's mildly amusing stories.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (celtcahill @ Nov 15 2008, 06:36 PM) *
Post his falsehoods then.

Half my in-laws are from Alaska and they are all more intelligent, informed and aware of domestic and international affairs than she is and they are all more articulate, even the one that voted for McCain/Palin.

There's nothing common about her, she's a member of that carpet-bag class that moved into the upper middle class of Alaska directly from the lower 48 and think they own it, invented it and have it by right.

My In-laws got there in the mid-fifties, married local and their grandchildren will be the next generation of born and raised in Alaska from Alaskans who will be in charge up there for the first time. I can tell you the first generation of actual Alaskans are quite different from the picture presented by Palin whatever her positives.



No need to refute a crazy guy, just because you're totally uninformed.
celtcahill
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 15 2008, 06:29 PM) *
"It is undisputed that Cavett has a lengthy history of mental illness, and has in the past been diagnosed as suffering from manic-depressive illness."

http://bipolar.about.com/cs/celebs/a/dickcavett.htm



QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 15 2008, 06:40 PM) *
No need to refute a crazy guy, just because you're totally uninformed.



So, you were lying about his falsehoods ?

Why ?
Bart Katz
QUOTE (celtcahill @ Nov 15 2008, 06:50 PM) *
So, you were lying about his falsehoods ?

Why ?


No I wasn't. You're too farking stupid to even know so why bother? You may be as nutty as Cavett.
underhi2p
Sarah Palin's magic
by Politico.com Thursday November 13, 2008, 3:36 PM
They would appear as if by magic at the side doors and loading dock entrances of the presidential and vice presidential candidates’ hotels, asking, “Is Sarah staying here?” For security reasons, no one was supposed to confirm or deny that Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska was staying at a given location, but eventually someone always did, and the people would begin to gather.

These unscripted, spontaneous greeters offered a unique insight into Palin’s appeal as a vice presidential candidate and a sad commentary on an opportunity missed by the McCain-Palin campaign. There were rarely any of the hale-fellow-well-met businesspeople and ladies with rhinestone elephant pins that make up the crowd at most Republican events. Instead there were people in well-worn work clothes; the clean Carhart jackets and jeans or logo-embroidered shirts that guys wear when they come to give you an estimate for a new furnace or wait on you at the local computer shop. And they brought their children, especially their daughters and their children with disabilities, to see the candidate they called “Sarah.”

“I want my daughter to have a picture with Sarah,” said one fellow with collar-length salt-and-pepper hair under his faded POW-MIA ball cap. “I want her to see that a small-town girl can do anything she wants.” Why not take your daughter to the rally to hear Palin speak? “I don’t know anything about a rally; we’re not involved in politics in our family,” was the answer.

Family was a word that came up regularly when one spoke with Palin’s fans. “Did Sarah bring the whole family?” was a question often asked by people who had brought theirs; stair step groups of three or more children lined up in hopes of seeing Palin and her family as they rushed through the lobby on the way to their next campaign stop.

Once in New Hampshire, when told that, yes, the entire family was along, including Bristol and Trig, a small group from the local right-to-life organization burst into spontaneous applause. Startled advance people later concluded it was their way of affirming their support for the Palin family’s commitment to the right-to-life, despite the fact that the McCain campaign’s New Hampshire staff had prohibited any communication between Gov. Palin’s advance team and the local right-to-life leadership.

More often than not, to the consternation of the Secret Service and the annoyance of a staff charged with keeping her on schedule, Gov. Palin made a beeline to the stair steps of children, shaking hands, posing for pictures and signing autographs. If the signature appeal of the Obama campaign was to the young, hip urban single, then clearly the signature appeal of Sarah Palin is to voters with a family, especially a family including two or more children.

Yet Palin’s stump speech, so carefully crafted by the campaign, rarely included extensive references to children or family issues. And after a month-and-a-half of campaign stops where families with disabled children turned up in droves the campaign finally started to make accommodating people with special needs a priority at Palin events. A scant two weeks before the election she was finally allowed to deliver a policy speech on disability issues which she did with empathy and honesty.

Do a few loading dock conversations with onlookers and supporters trump a national campaign’s expensive polling and focus groups? Probably not. But it shouldn’t take a poll or a focus group to tell national Republican leaders that now that the campaign is over Sarah Palin is the one authentic voice who can make those voters who “aren’t involved in politics” but who care deeply about issues affecting small business, children and families appear again as if by magic.

A veteran of dozens of political campaigns, George Rasley took two months unpaid leave from his position as director of communications for Congressman Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) to serve as a lead advance representative for Gov. Sarah Palin during the recent presidential campaign. He was previously Special Assistant for Domestic Policy on the staff of Vice President Dan Quayle.

http://www.mlive.com/us-politics/index.ssf...lins_magic.html
Repub_Bub
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 15 2008, 04:31 PM) *
He's farking crazy but they think it's that he's an intellectual.

I havn't seen him for years. He had his own TV show some time ago and I remember him mainly for his dry, tongue-in-cheek wit...know nothing of his politics or recent history.

As far as him being an intellectual it shouldn't be much of a jump for the lefties here...they consider Inyer a genius.
Bart Katz
QUOTE (Repub_Bub @ Nov 15 2008, 07:13 PM) *
I havn't seen him for years. He had his own TV show some time ago and I remember him mainly for his dry, tongue-in-cheek wit...know nothing of his politics or recent history.

As far as him being an intellectual it shouldn't be much of a jump for the lefties here...they consider Inyer a genius.


They say it's a fine line.
celtcahill
QUOTE (Bart Katz @ Nov 15 2008, 07:23 PM) *
They say it's a fine line.



Niether of you have to worry though, so there's some comfort in that.
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