http://www.medpagetoday.com/InfectiousDise...URItheFlu/14123

With H1N1, just a shot across the bow.

Worse to come. We better armor up.

So what is the morbidity rate with viral pneumonia for people who have health insurance?

We've moved on to health insurance ameliorating the threat of bio-weapons.

I see.

My bad.

So do you reckon they are going to triage for Ebola based on insurance status?

25% higher death risk (viral pneumonia) among those without insurance

http://www.kosmix.com/topic/Viral_pneumonia/Images

Due to my warning factors, I get an anti-pneumonia shot every other year. Likely wouldn't w/o insurance.

There is a larger issue than H1N1. Tip of the iceberg.

they last 10 years

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=p...mp;oq=&aqi=

Nothing has moved.

Reality is what it is.

Or are bio-weapons just BS?

h1n1 is most likely one

I would bet its man made

Yes, it's called the health insurance oath.

never heard of it

10 to 20 million of whom are here without benefit of proper gubment documentation. Another significant number make over $75K/year and just want to spend money on something else.

Calling Dr Howard, Dr Fine, Dr Inyeriot.

she died because she decided not to seek care.

Several studies estimate the number of uninsured Americans. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, nearly 46 million Americans, or 18 percent of the population under the age of 65, were without health insurance in 2007, their latest data available.

http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml

Census Bureaus does not ask about immigration status, just ask them.

Nice link...

Or she may have died even with early care. Some people do.

References

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do your homework

Census Bureau does not ask immigration status.

The vast majority of the people who die in the US have insurance...

HAVING INSURANCE KILLED THEM!

The Pug ate it.

who cleans up all the crap?

when will it be housebroken?

Probably Medicare.

Death rates highest for those with Medicare...

GMTA

65 & older

HAVING MEDICARE KILLED THEM!

they slipped in pugshit

Bingo. Just like not having Medicare killed the rest.

the great equalizer

Zero sum game.

Absence of life is the leading cause of death.

that's the leading symptom

cause undetermined

better post some more stooges

Obama will fix it. I was watching PBS and everyone on there expects government to wave a wand and all of us will get any procedure or medicine and nobody will ever go bankrupt.

Personally I'd rather go bankrupt and live, but to each their own.

Death declared in absence of life not matter what the cause.

READING ASSIGNMENTS

By Neal Boortz @ September 28, 2009 8:36 AM

Now who didn't see this one coming. Liberal Democrats want you to pay for the health care of people who are in this country illegally. <---Here Those people, by the way, are not "undocumented workers," they are illegal aliens and their presence here is a crime.

Actually, all they are asking for is that illegals be permitted to buy their own insurance from the new "exchanges". They are not proposing that illegals get the federal subsidies that citizens will get, but they are saying that legal immigrants should get the subsidies on the same basis as citizens.

I would go a step further and require illegals to carry health insurance.

That said, most illegals will probably continue to use the emergency rooms. Their priority is often sending money back home, and I doubt they will buy even catastrophic coverage.

I think that the illegals are generally of the philosophy that our civil laws need not be obeyed when inconvenient.

Here without the benefit of proper gubment documentation.

I think that is too polite and kind.

They are tresspassers. They are illegal inhabitants.

They are here because although the Federal gubment spends billions every year the gubments border security programs as executed by gubment bureaucrats has failed for decades and the folks in Congress are just as ineffective at any serious reform of the gubment border security programs.

So the bottom line for me is that are here without the proper gubment paperwork.

I believe Art and I worked this out years ago. A simple, very open, easy to qualify guest worker program gets the majority of these folks the proper gubment paperwork. This would allow this majority to move freely between the US and their home countries to see their families while bringing them into compliance with US laws. A simple, very open, but stringent immigration program that leads to citizenship also will slow down those who want citizenship but see that path as dysfunctional.

This will significantly increase the percentage of illegal border crossings now to criminals, largely drug and other contraband like weapons related, and terrorists which perhaps our border control can focus on and bring under control although I doubt it. Decriminalizing the contraband, specifically drugs, would go a long way to slowing that part of the flow too. Reducing the extent of the welfare services here would also slow the flow of many immigrants.

This does not address the US unemployment and low skill worker wage issues and probably makes it worse.

Indeed, it does not.

And, I don't think it's incompetence (or merely incompetence) by 'bureaucrats' that is making our borders porous.

You know, we outsource many of our the functions of our actual military. Why the heck don't we outsource the entire border guarding function to e.g. KBR. We'll probably end up spending more money, there'll be very little due process etc. but, fark it, let's give it a shot.

I am sure, employees of PRIVATE organizations will always do their job correctly, never accept bribes, never run do anything remotely similar to what the 'bureaucrats' of the Federal agencies do.

Not never for sure but the private organization employees have incentives that due to systemic issues with gubment the gubment bureaucrats do not. Typical gubment reaction to a failed program is to give it more resources usually translating to more employees at higher salaries. Boeing tried to get into marine systems business back in the day. The employees assigned that task failed. Boeing closed the division down.

There's no punishment or incentive. Jail here beats jail there, then a free ride home. We ought to be charging Mexico, or dumping our flotsam and jetsam there.

If the Federal gubment established a significant no go zone along the entire border (hundreds of yards wide) and had as it's policy anybody in the zone would be killed then maybe that part of the border could be secured including the use of private contractors with stiff penalties for failure. The locals would never stand for such a zone. The flow would move from that border to the northern border and sea. I think we need to kill the incentive to come here illegally.