"On September 20 2001, the Taliban offered to hand Osama bin Laden to a neutral Islamic country for trial if the US presented them with evidence that he was responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington. The US rejected the offer. On October 1, six days before the bombing began, they repeated it, and their representative in Pakistan told reporters: "We are ready for negotiations. It is up to the other side to agree or not. Only negotiation will solve our problems." Bush was asked about this offer at a press conference the following day. He replied: "There's no negotiations. There's no calendar. We'll act on [sic] our time.""
This is the source of the above quote.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/no...fghanistan.iraq
Below is where The Guardian Reported about it at the time:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/1...tan.terrorism11
Full Version: How Bush Let Bin Laden Go!!!
Let bin Laden go? The Taliban was as opportunistic as you lefties trying to play the PR game.
The Taliban also offered to hand over Osama Bin Laden in regards to the bombing of the USS Cole ON FEBRUARY 21, 2001, but President Bush rejected THAT offer to bring Bin Laden to Justice too!!!
Unocal needed a pipeline.
Unocal needed a pipeline.
QUOTE (CFKane_ @ Apr 23 2009, 05:02 PM) 
The Taliban also offered to hand over Osama Bin Laden in regards to the bombing of the USS Cole ON FEBRUARY 21, 2001, but President Bush rejected THAT offer to bring Bin Laden to Justice too!!!
Unocal needed a pipeline.
Unocal needed a pipeline.
If only holding one person could stop terror we'd be set. As far as I know they weren't going to give him to us anyway. Just possibly turn him over to somebody else.
QUOTE (CFKane_ @ Apr 23 2009, 07:02 PM)
The Taliban also offered to hand over Osama Bin Laden in regards to the bombing of the USS Cole ON FEBRUARY 21, 2001, but President Bush rejected THAT offer to bring Bin Laden to Justice too!!!
Unocal needed a pipeline.
Unocal needed a pipeline.
I can't think of a worse place to operate a pipeline. By local standards, Unocal would forever have to be paying off the local badmashes to "protect" the pipeline.
It makes a nice story, like taking Iraq so we could keep their oil.
QUOTE (CFKane_ @ Apr 23 2009, 06:38 PM)
"On September 20 2001, the Taliban offered to hand Osama bin Laden to a neutral Islamic country for trial if the US presented them with evidence that he was responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington. The US rejected the offer. On October 1, six days before the bombing began, they repeated it, and their representative in Pakistan told reporters: "We are ready for negotiations. It is up to the other side to agree or not. Only negotiation will solve our problems." Bush was asked about this offer at a press conference the following day. He replied: "There's no negotiations. There's no calendar. We'll act on [sic] our time.""
This is the source of the above quote.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/no...fghanistan.iraq
Below is where The Guardian Reported about it at the time:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/1...tan.terrorism11
This is the source of the above quote.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/no...fghanistan.iraq
Below is where The Guardian Reported about it at the time:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/1...tan.terrorism11
Bush is a farking idiot, even after 9/11 Bush didn't know who Bid Laden is.
It was Clinton that let Osama Bid Laden go. Bubba was the brains. After Bubba issued an arrest warrant, he failed to mail it to the folks at the United Nations so Bin Laden left for Afghanistan.
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Apr 23 2009, 07:23 PM)
I can't think of a worse place to operate a pipeline. By local standards, Unocal would forever have to be paying off the local badmashes to "protect" the pipeline.
Buy PipeUSA
QUOTE (CFKane_ @ Apr 23 2009, 06:38 PM)
We'll act on [sic] our time.""
Why the [sic]?
No gerund or conjunctive refluxive adverb?
Never was that good at english but, "We'll act on our time" seems pretty farking legitimate to me.
Help me out here. I could use an improvement to my english skillage.
QUOTE (Arturo_Vandelay @ Apr 23 2009, 05:26 PM)
It makes a nice story, like taking Iraq so we could keep their oil.
how many free tankers?
QUOTE (underhi2p @ Apr 23 2009, 05:58 PM)
Why the [sic]?
No gerund or conjunctive refluxive adverb?
Never was that good at english but, "We'll act on our time" seems pretty farking legitimate to me.
Help me out here. I could use an improvement to my english skillage.
No gerund or conjunctive refluxive adverb?
Never was that good at english but, "We'll act on our time" seems pretty farking legitimate to me.
Help me out here. I could use an improvement to my english skillage.
You be skillin'.
QUOTE (inyerface @ Apr 23 2009, 06:16 PM)
how many free tankers?
None.
because you say so?
Atop Iraq's al Basrah Oil Terminal, heavily armed anti-terrorism forces stand guard — while the theft of the century may be occurring right under their noses. Tankers berthed at the sprawling platform, located off Iraq's southern coast in the Persian Gulf, take on the oil that is the lifeblood of Iraq's war-torn economy.
Millions of dollars' worth of oil is stolen daily in Iraq because of the absence of oil meters...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/08/...in2451828.shtml
QUOTE (inyerface @ Apr 23 2009, 10:51 PM)
because you say so?
Sounds like good reasoning to me, and he writes whole posts of his own.
QUOTE
absence of oil meters
have it your way
The ABOT's oil meters have been inoperable since the U.S. invasion
http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNews.aspx?id=3122
QUOTE
$20 million to $30 million per day
must be nice
QUOTE (inyerface @ Apr 23 2009, 10:05 PM)
have it your way
The ABOT's oil meters have been inoperable since the U.S. invasion
http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNews.aspx?id=3122
must be nice
The ABOT's oil meters have been inoperable since the U.S. invasion
http://www.iraqdirectory.com/DisplayNews.aspx?id=3122
must be nice
If ya can't measure it...how do ya know it's being stolen?
AV says "none"
QUOTE (inyerface @ Apr 24 2009, 07:52 AM)
AV says "none"
Stealing oil is a national pastime in oil producing states in the ME.
Here in America, not so much.
since we attacked, no meters
how convenient
how convenient
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Apr 24 2009, 06:08 AM)
Stealing oil is a national pastime in oil producing states in the ME.
Here in America, not so much.
Here in America, not so much.
How many tankers? None. Lot's of pirates are stealing relief food though.
security in ignorance
we're waaay to honest to ever steal oil or even harm Iraq at all
we're waaay to honest to ever steal oil or even harm Iraq at all
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Apr 24 2009, 01:23 AM)
I can't think of a worse place to operate a pipeline. By local standards, Unocal would forever have to be paying off the local badmashes to "protect" the pipeline.
Afghanistan plans gas pipeline
QUOTE
Afghanistan hopes to strike a deal later this month to build a $2bn pipeline through the country to take gas from energy-rich Turkmenistan to Pakistan and India.
Afghan interim ruler Hamid Karzai is to hold talks with his Pakistani and Turkmenistan counterparts later this month on Afghanistan's biggest foreign investment project, said Mohammad Alim Razim, minister for Mines and Industries told Reuters.
"The work on the project will start after an agreement is expected to be struck at the coming summit," Mr Razim said.
The construction of the 850-kilometre pipeline had been previously discussed between Afghanistan's former Taliban regime, US oil company Unocal and Bridas of Argentina.
The project was abandoned after the US launched missile attacks on Afghanistan in 1999.
US company preferred
Mr Razim said US energy company Unocal was the "lead company" among those that would build the pipeline, which would bring 30bn cubic meters of Turkmen gas to market annually.
Unocal - which led a consortium of companies from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Japan and South Korea - has maintained the project is both economically and technically feasible once Afghan stability was secured.
"Unocal is not involved in any projects (including pipelines) in Afghanistan, nor do we have any plans to become involved, nor are we discussing any such projects," a spokesman told BBC News Online.
The US company formally withdrew from the consortium in 1998.
"The Afghan side assures all sides about the security of the pipeline and will take all responsibilities for it," Mr Razim said.
Reconstructing
Afghanistan plans to build a road linking Turkmenistan with Pakistan parallel to the pipeline, to supply nearby villages with gas, and also to pump Afghan gas for export, Mr Razim said.
The government would also earn transit fees from the export of gas and oil and hoped to take over ownership of the pipeline after 30 years, he said.
The Asian Development Bank (ADB) has been surveying routes for transferring local gas from northern Afghan areas to Kabul, and to iron ore mines at the Haji Gak pass further west.
"ADB will announce its conclusion soon," Mr Razim said.
The pipeline is expected to be built with funds from donor countries for the reconstruction of Afghanistan as well as ADB loans, he said.
Afghan interim ruler Hamid Karzai is to hold talks with his Pakistani and Turkmenistan counterparts later this month on Afghanistan's biggest foreign investment project, said Mohammad Alim Razim, minister for Mines and Industries told Reuters.
"The work on the project will start after an agreement is expected to be struck at the coming summit," Mr Razim said.
The construction of the 850-kilometre pipeline had been previously discussed between Afghanistan's former Taliban regime, US oil company Unocal and Bridas of Argentina.
The project was abandoned after the US launched missile attacks on Afghanistan in 1999.
US company preferred
Mr Razim said US energy company Unocal was the "lead company" among those that would build the pipeline, which would bring 30bn cubic meters of Turkmen gas to market annually.
Unocal - which led a consortium of companies from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Japan and South Korea - has maintained the project is both economically and technically feasible once Afghan stability was secured.
"Unocal is not involved in any projects (including pipelines) in Afghanistan, nor do we have any plans to become involved, nor are we discussing any such projects," a spokesman told BBC News Online.
The US company formally withdrew from the consortium in 1998.
"The Afghan side assures all sides about the security of the pipeline and will take all responsibilities for it," Mr Razim said.
Reconstructing
Afghanistan plans to build a road linking Turkmenistan with Pakistan parallel to the pipeline, to supply nearby villages with gas, and also to pump Afghan gas for export, Mr Razim said.
The government would also earn transit fees from the export of gas and oil and hoped to take over ownership of the pipeline after 30 years, he said.
The Asian Development Bank (ADB) has been surveying routes for transferring local gas from northern Afghan areas to Kabul, and to iron ore mines at the Haji Gak pass further west.
"ADB will announce its conclusion soon," Mr Razim said.
The pipeline is expected to be built with funds from donor countries for the reconstruction of Afghanistan as well as ADB loans, he said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1984459.stm
Space,
On a side note, Zalmay Khalilzad was employed by Unocal, just to point out an interesting tidbit.
QUOTE (BrooklynBill @ Apr 24 2009, 01:10 PM)
Afghanistan plans gas pipeline
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1984459.stm
Space,
On a side note, Zalmay Khalilzad was employed by Unocal, just to point out an interesting tidbit.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1984459.stm
Space,
On a side note, Zalmay Khalilzad was employed by Unocal, just to point out an interesting tidbit.
Ah, the Ambassador from Unocal.
QUOTE (BrooklynBill @ Apr 24 2009, 11:10 AM)
Afghanistan plans gas pipeline
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1984459.stm
Space,
On a side note, Zalmay Khalilzad was employed by Unocal, just to point out an interesting tidbit.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1984459.stm
Space,
On a side note, Zalmay Khalilzad was employed by Unocal, just to point out an interesting tidbit.
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QUOTE (underhi2p @ Apr 24 2009, 12:58 AM)
Why the [sic]?
No gerund or conjunctive refluxive adverb?
Never was that good at english but, "We'll act on our time" seems pretty farking legitimate to me.
Help me out here. I could use an improvement to my english skillage.
No gerund or conjunctive refluxive adverb?
Never was that good at english but, "We'll act on our time" seems pretty farking legitimate to me.
Help me out here. I could use an improvement to my english skillage.
It was in the quoted piece. Thought the same thing myself.
QUOTE (CFKane_ @ Apr 28 2009, 06:14 PM)
It was in the quoted piece. Thought the same thing myself.
I think the author automatically figgered there had to be something wrong with the sentence since the idiot said it.
The author must have been perplexed for hours.
QUOTE (SpaceCowboy @ Apr 24 2009, 11:15 AM)
Ah, the Ambassador from Unocal.
Afghanistan is no better a business destination now than it was bank on 02. It probably won't ever be worthy of any real investment, there's nobody willing and able to protect investments.
QUOTE (Bob_K @ Apr 29 2009, 06:31 PM)
Afghanistan is no better a business destination now than it was bank on 02. It probably won't ever be worthy of any real investment, there's nobody willing and able to protect investments.
A less hospitable businesss evnironment would be hard imagine.
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