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11/10/2009 4:30:39 AM


For Gen. Casey, loss of diversity
would be an "even greater tragedy."
AP


War On Terror: The No. 1 lesson of the Fort Hood massacre is that political correctness kills. But instead of learning this lesson, the Pentagon is repeating the mistake, putting more soldiers at risk. Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey warns that making the connection between Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's terrorist act and his Islamic faith could "cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers." Yet ignoring that connection, despite one red flag

Fort Hood suspect: Free Muslims from Army
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33819877/ns/us...ashington_post/

In lecture, Hasan said Islamic troops in U.S. military should be released as conscientious objectors and not have to fight other Muslims.

we reserve the right to kill innocents

So, really, honestly, you all are arguing that it was his Muslim faith that was the 'cause' of his mass murder?

So, really, honestly, you all are arguing that it was his Muslim faith that was the 'cause' of his mass murder?

None us can know, but it would appear, according to some of his work (the powerpoint presentation), that his religious identity was a source of his perceived conflict with the Army.

Plenty of folks who don't want to stay in the Army find a way out. Become a C/O, refuse and take the consequences, declare homosexuality, abscond to Canada, etc.

This dude "went postal".

That's about him, I think, more than the source of his conflict.

I see. So all you have to do is change the definition, it's not even a religion anymore, so it makes it easier to justify expanding the war on terror to all of Islam. Use their deaths to declare war on Islam Pat. You are every bit a threat as any Islamic fundamentalist.




Pat Robertson on Ft. Hood: Islam is 'not a religion' and Muslims should be treated like 'some fascist group.'

This past weekend, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano warned against allowing "anti-Muslim sentiment" to emanate from the shooting at Fort Hood by Major Nidal Malik Hasan. But that is exactly what some conservatives are doing. Dave Gaubatz, the controversial author of the controversial Muslim Mafia, called yesterday for "a professional and legal backlash against the Muslim community and their leaders." On his 700 Club TV show yesterday, Pat Robertson claimed that Islam is "not a religion," but "a violent political system bent on the overthrow of the governments of the world and world domination":

ROBERTSON: That is the ultimate aim. And they talk about infidels and all this, but the truth is that's what the game is. So you are dealing with not a religion. You're dealing with a political system. And I think we should treat it as such and treat its adherences as such as we would members of the Communist Party or members of some fascist group. Well, it's a tragedy. Our hearts go out to the families who suffered. But those in the Army should be held on account for the fact they let this man loose.

Watch it:

Anti-Islam rhetoric is nothing new for Robertson. He has previously called it "a violent religion" and "a political system…bent on world domination."

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/10/robert...muslim-fascist/

Who/what is to 'blame'?

I'd settle for an explanation. Assigning 'blame' is a different 'game'.

So, really, honestly, you all are arguing that it was his Muslim faith that was the 'cause' of his mass murder?

If he were truly psychotic I'd say blame him alone. But he had support and was following a plan set forth by others and likely to be followed by more islamists. It isn't the act of a lone idiot.

Seems to me his powerpoint presentation is Jihad 101...
That would make it a religious conflict ... nothing especially postal or preoccupation with self is involved when you have a chance to kill infidels.

Why our 'services' such farking geniuses only AFTER the fact?

This is 9/11 all-over again. Suddenly, after the fact, they're all farking knowledgeable and full of meaty theories.

What was the rationale of sending this guy off to Afghanistan GIVEN the p.p. presentation, etc?

Not sure what you are saying here... I thought the issue was whether this guy was a terrorist or just a psycho.

I hear a lot of after-the-fact 'insight' that appears to suggest that he may have been a 'terrorist'. The point I am trying to make is that if it's so damn straightforward and obvious now that he was a terrorist, why the fark was he not caught earlier? What about him that we've always known OTHER than that he would commit mass murder did they need to know before they decided at the very least not to send him to Afghanistan?

I think he was a dupe for Dick and Rummy trying to start a second war on Islam. Didn't anyone see the big white plane flying around over Texas the day of the shootings?

Funny, since most of the Muslims killed are killed by other Muslims, and we've saved them from despots all over the world while others just stand around watching.

Pat Robertson on Ft. Hood: Islam is ‘not a religion’ and Muslims should be treated like ‘some fascist group.’

This past weekend, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano warned against allowing “anti-Muslim sentiment” to emanate from the shooting at Fort Hood by Major Nidal Malik Hasan. But that is exactly what some conservatives are doing.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/10/robert...muslim-fascist/

TAMPA — Marine reservist Jasen Bruce was getting clothes out of the trunk of his car Monday evening when a bearded man in a robe approached him.

That man, a Greek Orthodox priest named Father Alexios Marakis, speaks little English and was lost, police said. He wanted directions.

What the priest got instead, police say, was a tire iron to the head. Then he was chased for three blocks and pinned to the ground — as the Marine kept a 911 operator on the phone, saying he had captured a terrorist.

Police say Bruce offered several reasons to explain his actions:

The man tried to rob him.

The man grabbed Bruce's crotch and made an overt sexual advance in perfect English.

The man yelled "Allahu Akbar," Arabic for "God is great," the same words some witnesses said the Fort Hood shooting suspect uttered last week.

"That's what they tell you right before they blow you up," police say Bruce told them.

Bruce ended up in jail, accused of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. He was released Tuesday on $7,500 bail. Marakis ended up at the hospital with stitches. He told the police he didn't want to press charges, espousing biblical forgiveness.

But Tuesday, Bruce wasn't saying sorry.

Father Michael Eaccarino of St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Cathedral in Tarpon Springs says Marakis, 29, entered a Greek monastery as a teenager and became a priest nine years ago. He is studying theology at Holy Cross, a Greek Orthodox school in Massachusetts, and traveled to Tarpon Springs two months ago to work on his master's thesis. He has taken a vow of celibacy.

Eaccarino says the visiting priest got lost Monday after ministering to the elderly in a nursing home.

Jasen Bruce, 28, enlisted as a reserve Marine as a teenager, was discharged honorably when he finished his contract, and enlisted again this March. He has never been deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, a Marine Corps spokesman said. He got married last month in full dress uniform.

Bruce is a sales manager for APS Pharmacy in Palm Harbor. His blog entries tout the benefits of increasing testosterone and human growth hormones. He was charged with misdemeanor battery in 2007 for hopping over the bed of a tow truck and shoving its driver. He pleaded no contest.

An exterior surveillance video of Tuesday's chase captured the two men in motion, said Tampa Police Department spokeswoman Laura McElroy:

"You see a very short, small man running, and an enormous, large muscular man chasing after him."

This is what police say happened at 6:35 p.m. Monday:

The priest's GPS gave him the wrong directions, leading him off Interstate 275 and into downtown Tampa. He followed a line of cars into a garage at the Seaport Channelside condominium to ask for help.

He found Bruce, whose back was turned, bending over the trunk of his car, and he tapped his shoulder before saying, in broken English, "please" and "help."

That's when Bruce reached for the tire iron. Police say that by the end of the chase, he had hit the priest four times.

Hours after his release from Orient Road Jail on Tuesday, Bruce stood silently as his attorney, Jeff Brown, told his version:

The bearded man wearing a robe and sandals was clearly trespassing in the garage. In a sudden move, the stranger made a verbal sexual advance and grabbed Bruce's genitals. The Marine defended himself. And immediately, he called 911 as he chased him.

Brown said the police initially called the Marine a "hero" and said the priest was "mentally ill."

He called the police's account "one-sided" and said the department should investigate a sergeant he said made derogatory comments about the Marine's military background.

Police said that sergeant is, himself, a veteran. They say that the priest was disoriented when they found him at the corner of Madison and Meridian avenues, but a translator at Tampa General Hospital helped him communicate. And that the GPS corroborates the priest's story.

When police arrived at Bruce's apartment at 1:30 a.m., before they had mentioned charges, he had already called an attorney.

This story speaks, rather movingly, for itself. And yes, the "pearly gates" comment is priceless:

Another Muslim-American



Video at link. Muslim woman talks gunman into surrending.

I don't think that's how they see it. You may think "liberating," but they think "occupying."

Wow!!

This is a shocker!

I doubt they all think the same thing. Sunnis that used to oppress everyone don't have the same view of things anymore.

Their perspective seems pretty adament and enduring.

A lot of perspectives are adamant and enduring. When they were an oppressive minority they had no problem with killing Muslims. Bitching that we are at war with Islam is a joke.

Well, if you're expecting gratitude from them based on your perspective,

Hardly. Life's complex.

I hear a lot of after-the-fact 'insight' that appears to suggest that he may have been a 'terrorist'. The point I am trying to make is that if it's so damn straightforward and obvious now that he was a terrorist, why the fark was he not caught earlier? What about him that we've always known OTHER than that he would commit mass murder did they need to know before they decided at the very least not to send him to Afghanistan?

[size=6]WHY WAS HE NOT CAUGHT EARLIER?

Don't give me this nonsense about the U.S. military being too P.C.. That is bullshit.