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Human Ills
QUOTE(Friend Judy @ Jul 24 2006, 07:47 PM) [snapback]223271[/snapback]

Biden likes the sound of his own voice nearly as much as Byrd. The SOTU would need to be a two-day sleepover event.

....but for some reason, the left doesn't really seem to like him.
Arturo_Vandelay
It's too bad he had that one plagiarism episode. I think that's screwed him from serious presidential consideration. Too bad, he's hardly the doctrinaire type that has painted the Dems into a corner lately.
Human Ills
QUOTE(SpaceCowboy @ Jul 25 2006, 11:38 AM) [snapback]223395[/snapback]

Whatever does the small area of Israel have to do with the argument that Israel is using disproportionate force?

Or anything else for that matter?


Goes to how unreasonable the muslim world is in insisting on reclaiming the real estate. IMO.

QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Jul 26 2006, 11:01 PM) [snapback]223865[/snapback]

It's too bad he had that one plagiarism episode. I think that's screwed him from serious presidential consideration. Too bad, he's hardly the doctrinaire type that has painted the Dems into a corner lately.

That's pretty funny considering no politician writes his/her own stuff.
patheticJT
Any innocents here?

1,402 rockets shot at Israel since onset of fighting



Northern District Police report 19 dead, more than 1,200 injured as a result of rocket attacks. Only Wednesday, 98 rockets launched by afternoon hours, resulting in several casualties
Hagai Einav

Since the onset of the current confrontation on the northern border, 15 days ago, 1,402 rockets have been launched at Israel, the Northern District Police's spokesperson reported. Nineteen civilians have been killed and 1,262 wounded, including 46 who are still hospitalized. Many of the injured suffered from shock.

Israel at War - special coverage

On Wednesday, the barrages on the north continued. As of the afternoon, 98 rockets were fired at northern Israel, leaving one man severely injured . Some 21 others were lightly injured and 14 suffered from shock, as a result of the barrage.


Early in the afternoon, 17 people in a shelter in Kiryat Shmona suffered from smoke inhalation, after a rocket hit an adjacent building. MDA sources reported that crews were summoned to the area to treat the injured.

At approximately 4:30 p.m., warning sirens were activated in the Western Galilee. At the same time, a rocket barrage landed on the northern community of Maalot. A number of residences were damaged as a result. Additionally, over a hundred chickens died in a neighboring community, after a rocket hit two poultry coops.

Place hit by rocket in Krayot area (Photo: Ahiya Raved)

The most severe blow of the day occurred in the Krayot area (northern suburbs of Haifa), where one man was severely injured after a rocket directly hit his vehicle; four additional individuals sustained light injuries from the event. Near Safed, one rocket hit a warehouse, lightly injuring one person.


On Tuesday, rocket attacks on the north took a heavy toll. Daa Abbas, a 15-year-old girl from the Druze town of Mrar, was killed from a direct hit to her home. Daa was watching television at the time, along with her mother and seventeen year old brother.

"The rocket entered the ceiling of the living room, went through the floor, and crashed into the TV room, where it hit her," said the girl's uncle, Ahmed Abbas.

Pre-draft party moved to Ramat Gan

A rocket that landed Wednesday morning in the Yesod Hama'aleh community shattered the plans of some twenty teenagers who were looking forward to their pre-draft party. The idea to move the party to Tiberias was no longer relevant, because several rockets have also landed in that city. In the afternoon, the teenagers and their parents received word that Tzvi Bar, mayor of Ramat Gan and a Yesod Hama'aleh native, would allow them to have the event in the Ramat Gan 'soldier's house'.

"This makes us very glad. A special bus will be chartered to take the teenagers and families to celebrate our children's imminent draft, when they will be joining combat and elite combat units, some of which are currently serving in the north," said one of the mothers.

In Kiryat Shmona, community center employees decided to impose sanctions after not receiving their salaries for the past four months. The sanctions would affect the community operations room, which is responsible for aid provision in the shelters and the emergency hotline.

Municipality sources said that the sum to pay the salaries for employees of the community center, the local authorities, and the area religious authorities is currently being discussed with the Interior Ministry. They further stated that Kiryat Shmona Mayor Haim Barbivai was trying to receive an allowance that would cover these salary payments.


In contrast, in Nahariya, members of the Young Israel organization, along with volunteers from the local national-religious yeshiva, toured shelters in the area with a magician, musicians, and actors. The guests led activities for the children and distributed food, night lights and modest gifts to the city residents, who have been living in shelters and fortified structures for 15 days.











Human Ills
QUOTE(patheticJT @ Jul 26 2006, 09:23 PM) [snapback]223843[/snapback]

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muslims bringing peaceful coexistance to NYC

Thanks for reminding me.
SpaceCowboy
QUOTE(Human Ills @ Jul 27 2006, 01:04 AM) [snapback]223866[/snapback]

That's pretty funny considering no politician writes his/her own stuff.

Yeah, I heard he was caught smoking in the boy’s room too.

But Art may be right.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(Human Ills @ Jul 26 2006, 11:04 PM) [snapback]223866[/snapback]




That's pretty funny considering no politician writes his/her own stuff.



I was born a poor black child.....
Nomarchy
QUOTE(Human Ills @ Jul 26 2006, 11:04 PM) [snapback]223866[/snapback]

Goes to how unreasonable the muslim world is in insisting on reclaiming the real estate. IMO.


What "Muslim world"?

The Greek Cypriots who were expelled and had their properties expropriated by the Turkish invasion and occupation of the Northern 1/3 of the sovereign territory of the Republic of Cyprus beginning in 1974 were/are Christians. The invading/occupying Turkish forces are/were Muslim.

SO THE fark WHAT? There's certainly quite a lot of "christian land" for them to be re-settled in. Heck, there's enough land in Greece for them to be re-settled. Hecker :-D there was land for them to be re-settled in the free part of the Republic of Cyprus. SO WHAT? It was THEIR land, and they were forcibly expelled from it. THEIR land.

I have had it with this farking cowdoody. I am going to go out on a limb: There was absolutely ZERO justification, ZERO, nada for the 'state of Israel' to be created were it was created/carved out of the Palestinian Mandate.

All the Israeli arguments to the contrary, Israel is not entitled to the occupied territories sans at the very least compensation of the displaced then-resident populations or their descendants.

Period. End of rant.
Human Ills
QUOTE(SpaceCowboy @ Jul 26 2006, 11:09 PM) [snapback]223870[/snapback]

Yeah, I heard he was caught smoking in the boy’s room too.

But Art may be right.

Every time I mentioned to barta that Biden looked tough on some or another roundtable, she would bring up that episode.
What I think is interesting is that it clearly illustrates what kind of indescretion the left is willing to accept and not accept.
Maybe to their collective credit, I don't know.

QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Jul 26 2006, 11:11 PM) [snapback]223872[/snapback]

What "Muslim world"?

The Greek Cypriots who were expelled and had their properties expropriated by the Turkish invasion and occupation of the Northern 1/3 of the sovereign territory of the Republic of Cyprus beginning in 1974 were/are Christians. The invading/occupying Turkish forces are/were Muslim.

SO THE fark WHAT? There's certainly quite a lot of "christian land" for them to be re-settled in. Heck, there's enough land in Greece for them to be re-settled. Hecker :-D there was land for them to be re-settled in the free part of the Republic of Cyprus. SO WHAT? It was THEIR land, and they were forcibly expelled from it. THEIR land.

I have had it with this farking cowdoody. I am going to go out on a limb: There was absolutely ZERO justification, ZERO, nada for the 'state of Israel' to be created were it was created/carved out of the Palestinian Mandate.

All the Israeli arguments to the contrary, Israel is not entitled to the occupied territories sans at the very least compensation of the displaced then-resident populations or their descendants.

Period. End of rant.

The muslims would never accept monetary compensation for their holy land, and the Jews would be loathe to pay to reclaim their holy land.
fredzbig
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Jul 26 2006, 10:51 PM) [snapback]223856[/snapback]

Okay LP... try to understand(not misunderstand:~) this... I've USed a bigger font to help you read it...

Consider the terror that we are facing...

What if some nation(s) do jUSt to US what we have done to other nations...

Lobing missles into other nations... invading other nations... couping other nations... imprisoning/torturing/killing their people... manufacturing and distributing WMD to their enemies... USing WMD... bombing civilians... lying, cheating, stealing, torturing, killing... etc... etc...

If that is not understandable, then perhaps a bit of reading would enlighten you...

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...115/ai_21154870

http://www.fff.org/comment/com0501i.asp

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2849.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Un...tes_imperialism

http://www.zmag.org/crisescurevts/interventions.htm

http://www.neravt.com/left/invade.htm

http://www.omnicenter.org/warpeacecollection/victims.htm
Simply LP... the terror that we face is nothing that we have not already done to others... that's why it's so terribly scary to you(US:~)... ya'll are jUSt too USed to US being the "winners"... inflicting all the most terrible things on others much more so than they do to US being your definition of "winner"... but deep down... ya'll know that it will all come back to US(eventually:~)... and that's what really terrifies you so terribly about "terrorism".
Ya'll never even bothered to actually find out who the actual criminals of that damned day actually were... because it was US... and you jUSt can't handle the terrible truth of it.


Sorry Charlie...I am NOT going to take the blame or play apologist for these kind of actions...and I do NOT believe in anyone taking the blame for someone elses actions (or inactions). You go right ahead and "blame America" if you'd like...I will ALWAYS believe that's bullsheit.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(Human Ills @ Jul 26 2006, 11:16 PM) [snapback]223873[/snapback]

Every time I mentioned to barta that Biden looked tough on some or another roundtable, she would bring up that episode.
What I think is interesting is that it clearly illustrates what kind of indescretion the left is willing to accept and not accept.
Maybe to their collective credit, I don't know.



If Biden were further left they'd put up with a lot more indiscretion from him. He's no Teddy.


CharlieRay
QUOTE(fredzbig @ Jul 27 2006, 12:31 AM) [snapback]223876[/snapback]

Sorry Charlie...I am NOT going to take the blame or play apologist for these kind of actions...and I do NOT believe in anyone taking the blame for someone elses actions (or inactions). You go right ahead and "blame America" if you'd like...I will ALWAYS believe that's bullsheit.


You aren't "America"?... you aren't a citizen?... you bear no responsibility for the republic?... or it's actions?(or inactions?:~)...

It mUSt be nice to have most of the benefits and next to nothing of the responsibility of your citizenship...

Pray, do you afford citizens of other nations the same priviledge?... are they as "innocent" as you are?...

To be able to advocate all kinds of war and murder... and yet be able to deny responsibility when it actually happens...

You yourself, here in this very forum, have called for no fair play... no proportional response... all out war... kill them all... in their own nation(defending:~)... fantasizing that they have done any such thing to you... which they haven't...

You miss that when I "blame America"... as an "American", I bear part of that blame... thUS my calls for repentance... but first, mine own...

Repent... even in sack cloth and in ashes...
Repent... even in prayer and in fasting...
Repent... even in heart and soul...
Repent... and change the heart...
Repent... and change the world.
roserose
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Jul 26 2006, 11:19 PM) [snapback]223841[/snapback]

The Citizen is even worse. Supposedly it's more "Republican", but mostly it's just thin. Both pretty much just reprint AP stories. The poor quality of the local papers really added to my infatuation with the net. I guess it's a lucky thing the net wasn't around when I was a kid or I'd have missed out on a lot of fresh air and sports.


Hi Cr. Been a while. How's sis & co?
This has no relation to anything before written so I'll just toss it out.
A woman called in this (7/26/06) morning to c-span to say she'd visited the middle-east. She says she's impressed by the fact that these jews bought the land from the Arabs back in the '40's and now had farms with vegetables and everything. Says she went to Palestine, too. Says she saw a bunch of boys running around trying to herd goats. Cain and Able story was the basis of her comments, as I recall. Just too good to pass up.
My mom visited Cairo a few years back and saw Jerusalem, too. She tells me their tour guide seemed to hate all christians (just judging by the nature of his commentary on "Holy" sites, says she.) I dunno. Please ask your sis write of her experience in the region. I'd be interested to read it. I trust all is well with you. smile.gif
Repub_Bub
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Jul 26 2006, 11:54 PM) [snapback]223880[/snapback]

You aren't "America"?... you aren't a citizen?... you bear no responsibility for the republic?... or it's actions?(or inactions?:~)...

It mUSt be nice to have most of the benefits and next to nothing of the responsibility of your citizenship...

Pray, do you afford citizens of other nations the same priviledge?... are they as "innocent" as you are?...

To be able to advocate all kinds of war and murder... and yet be able to deny responsibility when it actually happens...

You yourself, here in this very forum, have called for no fair play... no proportional response... all out war... kill them all... in their own nation(defending:~)... fantasizing that they have done any such thing to you... which they haven't...

You miss that when I "blame America"... as an "American", I bear part of that blame... thUS my calls for repentance... but first, mine own...

Repent... even in sack cloth and in ashes...
Repent... even in prayer and in fasting...
Repent... even in heart and soul...
Repent... and change the heart...
Repent... and change the world.

Charlie, can you name one thing America has done positively?
roserose
As he appears to be asleep at the wheel, I'm gonna be so rude as to offer my presupposed/prejudiced/biased/justthefactsma'am response...

union.



G'nite, noice.
CharlieRay
They made the front page...

http://www.chieftain.com/

Danny is mine favorite nephew who loves me and my(our:~) chocolate... Mom told me that during the newspaper interview, he kept raising his hand and saying "hello, can I talk now?". laugh.gif
CharlieRay
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Jul 27 2006, 02:01 AM) [snapback]223882[/snapback]

Charlie, can you name one thing America has done positively?


Sure... lots of them... great and wonderful things...

The space program... scientific discoveries and technological advancements... quality of life improvements... education and arts... ecological and biological advancements... medical advances... etc...

But everyone of these great and wonderful things is soiled, soured and ruined by our warmongering ways that only seek to USe these things to gain advantage over our fellow human beings in warfare or otherwise...

A song for your consideration(written while I was in the service as a matter of fact:~)...

Little Man

Ohh little man...
sword in your hand...
gonna slay another man...
and take his land...

Ohh you little man...
Ohh you little man...

live by the sword...
die by the sword...
in the name of the lord...
you kill with the sword...

Ohh little man...
gun in your hand...
gonna slay another man...
and take his land...

Ohh you little man...
Ohh you little man...

live by the sword...
die by the sword...
in the name of the lord...
you kill with the sword...

Ohh little man...
button in your hand...
gonna slay the lot of man...
and kill the land...

Ohh you little man...
Ohh you little man...

live by the sword...
die by the sword...
in the name of the lord...
you kill with the sword...

Ohh little man...
germ in your hand...
gonna slay a race of man...
and take their land...

Ohh you little man...
Ohh you little man...

live by the sword...
die by the sword...
in the name of the lord...
you kill with the sword...

Ohh little man...
guitar in your hand...
gonna slay the lot of man...
and save the land...

Ohh you little man...
Ohh you little man...

live by the sword...
die by the sword...
in the name of the lord...
you kill with the sword.

Charlie Ray Fetty III
Repub_Bub
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Jul 27 2006, 01:57 AM) [snapback]223887[/snapback]

Sure... lots of them... great and wonderful things...

The space program... scientific discoveries and technological advancements... quality of life improvements... education and arts... ecological and biological advancements... medical advances... etc...

But everyone of these great and wonderful things is soiled, soured and ruined by our warmongering ways that only seek to USe these things to gain advantage over our fellow human beings in warfare or otherwise...


Thanks for the song, but you seem to think that America is the only country pursuing its own self-interest...or that, of all the countries of the world, America has the biggest share of guilt.

QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Jul 26 2006, 11:11 PM) [snapback]223872[/snapback]

What "Muslim world"?

I have had it with this farking cowdoody. I am going to go out on a limb: There was absolutely ZERO justification, ZERO, nada for the 'state of Israel' to be created were it was created/carved out of the Palestinian Mandate.

You're probably right...I don't remember Israel having much of an history prior to 1948.
CharlieRay
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Jul 27 2006, 03:17 AM) [snapback]223889[/snapback]

Thanks for the song, but you seem to think that America is the only country pursuing its own self-interest...or that, of all the countries of the world, America has the biggest share of guilt.


I tend to concentrate on mine own nation... my own self interest.
Repub_Bub
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Jul 27 2006, 02:20 AM) [snapback]223890[/snapback]

I tend to concentrate on mine own nation... my own self interest.

Seems to me, you were concentrating on Americans.
CharlieRay
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Jul 27 2006, 03:27 AM) [snapback]223891[/snapback]

Seems to me, you were concentrating on Americans.


Americans are America... are they(we:~) not?
Repub_Bub
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Jul 27 2006, 02:29 AM) [snapback]223892[/snapback]

Americans are America... are they(we:~) not?

Right, but you didn't answer my question.
Lord_Proprietor
Canadian Soldier Says UN Position Used As Cover By Hezbollah


All Headline News , by Ryan R. Jones


7/27/2006 3:36:15 AM

Beirut, Lebanon - A Canadian UN peacekeeper killed in an Israeli air strike Tuesday complained just days before that tragic incident that his position was being used as cover by Hezbollah terrorists attacking Israel. In an interview on CBC Radio in Toronto, Major General Lewis MacKenzie (ret.) said he had been privy to e-mails received from the soldier over the past week.


Surprise Surprise!!!!


Space can you believe this???
davis¹³
QUOTE(fredzbig @ Jul 27 2006, 01:31 AM) [snapback]223876[/snapback]

Sorry Charlie...I am NOT going to take the blame or play apologist for these kind of actions...and I do NOT believe in anyone taking the blame for someone elses actions (or inactions). You go right ahead and "blame America" if you'd like...I will ALWAYS believe that's bullsheit.



But you have no problem assigning blame to me, bee, bix or anyone else who doesn't think like you.


Interesting double standard.
Lord_Proprietor
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Jul 27 2006, 01:51 AM) [snapback]223856[/snapback]

Okay LP... try to understand(not misunderstand:~) this... I've USed a bigger font to help you read it...

What if some nation(s) do jUSt to US what we have done to other nations...

Lobing missles into other nations... invading other nations... couping other nations... imprisoning/torturing/killing their people... manufacturing and distributing WMD to their enemies... USing WMD... bombing civilians... lying, cheating, stealing, torturing, killing... etc... etc...

[size=4]Simply LP... the terror that we face is nothing that we have not already done to others...

(***"Ya'll never even bothered to actually find out who the actual criminals
of that damned day actually were... because it was US...
and you jUSt can't handle the terrible truth of it."***)



[size=3] Thank Yo'all Charlie! Yo''all surely know how to spell it out what yo'all think of the USA and yo'all set me straight that yo'all did get yo'alls' political education at HAU with a degree in BAF. Thank yo'all, Charlie, I know where yo'all stand.

Note: unsure.gif
In the process of my education I was taught the difference between fighting agression for the purposes of advancing Liberty and being agressive for the purpose of subjugating nations; I suppose you missed that lesson!
gtessex
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Jul 27 2006, 01:51 AM) [snapback]223856[/snapback]

What if some nation(s) do jUSt to US what we have done to other nations...

Lobing missles into other nations... invading other nations... couping other nations... imprisoning/torturing/killing their people... manufacturing and distributing WMD to their enemies... USing WMD... bombing civilians... lying, cheating, stealing, torturing, killing... etc... etc...


Would you put Nazi Germany in this catagory of nations that the US has bombed the hell out of?

FYI, my father recently did a presentation at a local library sharing some of his WWII stories. He was
a B-17 bomber pilot who flew many missions dropping bombs on Nazi Germany. One interesting point was that the crews of American planes were warned ....if shot down....to stay away from the German civilians because they would kill Americans on the spot since they blamed the Americans and the ally forces for the destruction of their homes....not the maniac who was the leader of their country.

Using your logic, we should just have let Hilter take over the world. War is hell, but we are not the bad guys. You sound very anti-American in your statements. We made the right decisions in going after Hitler and we better make the right decisions in taking out Islamic fascists....because if we don't they will eventually destroy us. I don't understand why you lefties can't see that?!



QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Jul 27 2006, 02:11 AM) [snapback]223872[/snapback]

I have had it with this farking cowdoody. I am going to go out on a limb: There was absolutely ZERO justification, ZERO, nada for the 'state of Israel' to be created were it was created/carved out of the Palestinian Mandate.


For once....I agree with you! biggrin.gif

They should have just let all the Jews set up 'camp' in southern Florida and all of this 'cowdoody' could have been avoided! wink.gif
davis¹³
QUOTE
In the process of my education I was taught the difference between fighting agression for the purposes of advancing Liberty and being agressive for the purpose of subjugating nations; I suppose you missed that lesson!


You got an "F".
Lord_Proprietor
QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Jul 27 2006, 02:00 AM) [snapback]223863[/snapback]


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(Friend Judy @ Jul 26 2006, 06:22 AM)

One more time, LP. The mission assigned to them was to OBSERVE, and report, which they did. They were specifically instructed not to intervene.

It's unfair of you to blame them for not intervening, which they were specifically forbidden to do.


When has that ever stopped that imbecile from waxing indignant and critical of the U.N.?



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Canadian Soldier Says UN Position Used As Cover By Hezbollah

All Headline News , by Ryan R. Jones

7/27/2006 3:36:15 AM

Beirut, Lebanon - A Canadian UN peacekeeper killed in an Israeli air strike Tuesday complained just days before that tragic incident that his position was being used as cover by Hezbollah terrorists attacking Israel. In an interview on CBC Radio in Toronto, Major General Lewis MacKenzie (ret.) said he had been privy to e-mails received from the soldier over the past week.
Lord_Proprietor
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Jul 27 2006, 02:01 AM) [snapback]223865[/snapback]

It's too bad he had that one plagiarism episode. I think that's screwed him from serious presidential consideration. Too bad, he's hardly the doctrinaire type that has painted the Dems into a corner lately.



I can't see Senator Biden any other way than as a glib, motor-mouth with shallow, bitter, abusive, denunciating diatribes of his opponents (all republicans) just like the glib (slick) motor-mouth Clinton and so many other politicians - no tangible substance, just words of little meaning!
Lord_Proprietor
QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Jul 27 2006, 02:11 AM) [snapback]223872[/snapback]

What "Muslim world"?

The Greek Cypriots who were expelled and had their properties expropriated by the Turkish invasion and occupation of the Northern 1/3 of the sovereign territory of the Republic of Cyprus beginning in 1974 were/are Christians. The invading/occupying Turkish forces are/were Muslim.

SO THE fark WHAT? There's certainly quite a lot of "christian land" for them to be re-settled in. Heck, there's enough land in Greece for them to be re-settled. Hecker :-D there was land for them to be re-settled in the free part of the Republic of Cyprus. SO WHAT? It was THEIR land, and they were forcibly expelled from it. THEIR land.

I have had it with this farking cowdoody. I am going to go out on a limb: There was absolutely ZERO justification, ZERO, nada for the 'state of Israel' to be created were it was created/carved out of the Palestinian Mandate.

All the Israeli arguments to the contrary, Israel is not entitled to the occupied territories sans at the very least compensation of the displaced then-resident populations or their descendants.

Period. End of rant.


'Nomarchy',

Don't forget how many always use The Bible as their history and their law! I don't, but I do think that area was under settlement by so many others that the Jews had as much claim as any other group. But that particular mandate (to support Zionism) by the British certainly was an error and has caused so much trouble, especially for western civilization and the Christian world! The radical Muslems have used it as a tool, much to their advantage, in leading their nescient hoi polloi.
Bee
QUOTE(Lord_Proprietor @ Jul 27 2006, 08:30 AM) [snapback]223914[/snapback]

'Nomarchy',

Don't forget how many always use The Bible as their history and their law! I don't, but I do think that area was under settlement by so many others that the Jews had as much claim as any other group. But that particular mandate (to support Zionism) by the British certainly was an error and has caused so much trouble, especially for western civilization and the Christian world! The radical Muslems have used it as a tool, much to their advantage, in leading their nescient hoi polloi.




You exemplify the nescient hoi polloi.
Lord_Proprietor
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Jul 27 2006, 04:38 AM) [snapback]223886[/snapback]

They made the front page...

http://www.chieftain.com/

Danny is mine favorite nephew who loves me and my(our:~) chocolate... Mom told me that during the newspaper interview, he kept raising his hand and saying "hello, can I talk now?". laugh.gif



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Hezbollah's arsenal of rockets and weapons has been surprising, he said. "Who knew that they had the ability to damage an Israeli warship? No one, not Egypt, not Syria, not Jordan, has ever done that," he said.

It has been reported that Hezbollah has even longer range missiles that can strike Tel Aviv, and Jihad Chokr said he hoped that never happened. "If Hezbollah attacks Tel Aviv, I'm afraid it will escalate into a whole new war and that Israel isn't going to just retaliate against Hezbollah but against Syria or Iran. Who knows how it will end then?"



Where were the UN Observers, yo'all, CharlieR? cool.gif blink.gif cool.gif
judy
QUOTE(Nomarchy @ Jul 27 2006, 02:11 AM) [snapback]223872[/snapback]

What "Muslim world"?

I have had it with this farking cowdoody. I am going to go out on a limb: There was absolutely ZERO justification, ZERO, nada for the 'state of Israel' to be created were it was created/carved out of the Palestinian Mandate.

All the Israeli arguments to the contrary, Israel is not entitled to the occupied territories sans at the very least compensation of the displaced then-resident populations or their descendants. Period. End of rant.

The land belonged to the Israelis before the Arabs invaded. In fact the Jewish King David purchased land. Before the Jews took over again, the land was baren and the inhabitants were nomads.

SPEAKING OF ARABS......
WHAT GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE THEY MADE TO MANKIND LATELY?

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How DOES the Arab world compare? Wealthy Arab leaders spend millions of petro-dollars promoting extremist Islam in the West while many of their people lack basic amenities like food and education. Many of them secretly indulge in the same immoral vices they publicly condemn, bribe Western leaders into turning a blind eye to their despotism and deflect the frustrations of their populations away from themselves by scape-goating those "infidels," the Israelis! Some other Arabs have been either detonating themselves or talking others into it--murdering civilians young and old--and spreading hate-filled lies to incite "Jihad" against Americans, Christians and Jews. Degenerate leaders, Islamicist propaganda, anti-Semitic rantings, and a culture of revenge have truly turned the Arab World upside-down and inside-out! Their people deserve our pity more than our respect.

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Is there something in their drinking water or are they becoming a Society from Hell!
Source

Compare the Jewish Contribution to Israel


With a population of less than 5½ million Jews (less than 1/1000th of the world's population) and confronted with 55 years of unrelenting Arab terrorism, she can still proudly claim the following:
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An aerial arsenal of over 250 F-16s,
the largest fleet of the aircraft outside of the US.


Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin - 109 per 10,000 people -- as well as one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed.

In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of startup companies in the world. In absolute terms, Israel has the largest number of startup companies than any other country in the world, except the US (3,500 companies mostly in hi-tech).

Israel is ranked #2 in the world for venture capital funds right behind the US.

Outside the United States and Canada, Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ listed companies.

Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 was over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK.

Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world.
Israel's $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined.

On a per capita basis, Israel has the largest number of biotech startups.

Israel has the largest raptor migration in the world, with hundreds of thousands of African birds of prey crossing as they fan out into Asia.

Twenty-four percent of Israel's workforce holds university degrees -- ranking third in the industrialized world, after the United States and Holland - and 12 percent hold advanced degrees.

Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.

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In 1984 and 1991, she airlifted to safety into Israel
a total of 22,000 black Ethiopian Jews.


When Golda Meir was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 1969, she became the world's second elected female leader in modern times.

Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity.

Israel was the first nation in the world to adopt the Kimberly process, an international standard that certifies diamonds as "conflict free."

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When the US Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya was bombed by Arabs in 1998,
Israeli rescue teams were on the scene within a day
and saved three victims from the rubble.


Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship -- and the highest rate among women and among people over 55 - in the world.

According to industry officials, Israel designed the airline industry's most impenetrable flight security. US officials now look to Israel for advice on how to handle airborne security threats.

Israel's Maccabi basketball team won the European championships in 1977, 2001, 2004 and 2005. Who said Jews can't jump!

Israeli tennis player Anna Smashnova is the 15th ranked female player in the world.

Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers was produced by Haim Saban, an Israeli whose family fled persecution in Egypt.
Lord_Proprietor
QUOTE(CharlieRay @ Jul 27 2006, 04:57 AM) [snapback]223887[/snapback]

Sure... lots of them... great and wonderful things...

The space program... scientific discoveries and technological advancements... quality of life improvements... education and arts... ecological and biological advancements... medical advances... etc...



I notice, yo'all, Charlie, didn't mention any of the Liberty/Freedom we have initiated around the world where we have tromped out the tyrants like Hitler, Tojo and Mussolini. I suspect you were absent on the days the class studied those chapters, right, yo'all?
judy
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In 1991, during the Gulf War, the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra played a concert
wearing gas masks as scud missiles fired by Saddam Hussein fell on Tel Aviv.


Israel has the world's second highest per capita of new books.

Israel has more museums per capita than any other country.

Israel has two official languages: Hebrew and Arabic.

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Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century
with a net gain in its number of trees. Please plant a tree in Israel


Israeli scientists developed the first fully computerized, no-radiation, diagnostic instrumentation for breast cancer.

An Israeli company developed a computerized system for ensuring proper administration of medications, thus removing human error from medical treatment. Every year in US hospitals 7,000 patients die from treatment mistakes.

Israel's Givun imaging developed the first ingestible video camera, so small it fits inside a pill. Used the view the small intestine from the inside, the camera helps doctors diagnose cancer and digestive disorders.
80% of biotechnology in the ENTIRE world comes from Israel.

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Researchers in Israel developed a new device that directly helps the heart
pump blood, an innovation with the potential to save lives among those
with congestive heart failure. The new device is synchronized with the heart's
mechanical operations through a sophisticated system of sensors.


An Israeli company developed a computerized system for ensuring proper administration of medications, thus removing human error from medical treatment. Every year in US hospitals 7,000 patients die from treatment mistakes.

With more than 3,000 high-tech companies and startups, Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world (apart from the Silicon Valley).

In response to serious water shortages, Israeli engineers and agriculturalists developed a revolutionary drip irrigation system to minimize the amount of water used to grow crops.

Israel has the highest percentage in the world of home computers per capita.

The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel. In addition, "Project Banias," also carried out at the Israeli Intel Israel Design Center, produced the Intel Centrino processor for laptops.

Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the workforce, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the US, over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its work force employed in technical professions. Israel places first in this category as well.

The cell phone was developed in Israel by Motorola, which has its largest development center in Israel.

Most of the Windows NT operating system was developed by Microsoft-Israel.

Voice mail technology was developed in Israel.

Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel.
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The technology for AOL Instant Messenger
was developed in 1996 by four young Israelis.


A new acne treatment developed in Israel, the ClearLight device, produces a high-intensity, ultraviolet-light-free, narrowband blue light that causes acne bacteria to self-destruct -- all without damaging surroundings skin or tissue.

An Israeli company was the first to develop and install a large-scale solar-powered and fully functional electricity generating plant, in southern California's Mojave desert.

The first PC Anti-virus software was developed in Israel in 1979.

AND LOTS, LOTS MORE! Click Here
Maybe THIS is why the Arabs hate the Jews?
Lord_Proprietor
QUOTE(judy @ Jul 27 2006, 08:59 AM) [snapback]223920[/snapback]

The land belonged to the Israelis before the Arabs invaded. In fact the Jewish King David purchased land.

Before the Jews took over again, the land was baren and the inhabitants were nomads.


SPEAKING OF ARABS......
WHAT GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE THEY MADE TO MANKIND LATELY?






I was there in the summer of 1963, and there was certainly a difference between the lands of the Arabs and the Jews. The Jews were truning the desert into gardens and forests! The Arabs were begging and cursing the Jews!
judy
Israel is one of the tiniest nations on the face of the earth... only about 8,000 sq. miles, 2½ times the size of Rhode Island and only slightly larger than the Canary Islands! It is only 260 miles at its longest, has a 112-mile coastline, is 60 miles at its widest, and only between 3 and 9 miles at its narrowest [from the Mediterranean Sea to the edge of the "Green Line"! [see map below] A very high-powered rifle could launch a projectile right across the country!

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a. 3 miles wide here
b. Golan Heights
c. Sea of Galilee
d. Jordan River... Sea of Galilee to Dead Sea
e. 1967 "Green Line"... the 1949 armistice lines separating Israel from its heartland of Judea-Samaria when Jordanian forces illegally annexed it. After the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, Israel regained that land... at which time the world began referring to Judea and Samaria as the "West Bank" in order to try to erase any Jewish connection to this historically Jewish land!
f. 9 miles wide here
g. Tel Aviv
h. Jerusalem
i. Dead Sea
j. Gaza Strip

The surrounding 22 Arab countries are 640 times larger than tiny Israel yet they expect Israel to turn over all the West Bank, Gaza Strip, the Golan Heights and half of Jerusalem... territory they lost after they started the 1967 war! Source
Bee
Beruit was a garden.

So was Baghdad fior that matter.

You folks are twisted beyond any logical sense.

CharlieRay
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Jul 27 2006, 03:30 AM) [snapback]223893[/snapback]

Right, but you didn't answer my question.


Question?
judy
QUOTE(Lord_Proprietor @ Jul 27 2006, 09:19 AM) [snapback]223924[/snapback]

I was there in the summer of 1963, and there was certainly a difference between the lands of the Arabs and the Jews. The Jews were truning the desert into gardens and forests! The Arabs were begging and cursing the Jews!

I was there in the mid 90s and it was amazing to see the contrast! Many Arabs were happy to have work because of the Jews. Those employed by the Jews enjoyed a standard of living higher than Arabs in any other Arab country. They worked in construction and there was an abundance of that in the citys... the modern limestone buildings, hotels, homes etc stood in sharp contrast to their mud huts and tents in the desert.


QUOTE(Bee @ Jul 27 2006, 09:25 AM) [snapback]223926[/snapback]

Beruit was a garden.

So was Baghdad fior that matter.

You folks are twisted beyond any logical sense.


You are displaying your ignorance of the area.
davis¹³
uh huh
Repub_Bub
QUOTE(judy @ Jul 27 2006, 06:34 AM) [snapback]223931[/snapback]


You are displaying your ignorance of the area.

She can do that on any area....



Hope ya had a nice vacation.
Bee
Actually, judy-parrot, you are displaying your total ignorance of history.

Baghdad was indeed a garden until war spoiled it,. War does that.

Here's a little website to start your education.

Start there and maybe in an hour or so you'll catch up.

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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...6lr%3D%26sa%3DN
judy
QUOTE(Repub_Bub @ Jul 27 2006, 09:37 AM) [snapback]223933[/snapback]

She can do that on any area....
Hope ya had a nice vacation.


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..... Har Har.....Purr Purr....
Bee
QUOTE(davis¹³ @ Jul 27 2006, 09:36 AM) [snapback]223932[/snapback]

uh huh


She can't help it. No imagination and she only see's what her masters tell her to see.

Hey judy, google "Garden of Eden"

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What a fool. Swallowed the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

"Oh, the arabs just live in arid desert, I saw it myself."

Moron.
Carol
QUOTE(roserose @ Jul 26 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]223781[/snapback]


I'm just too lazy to transfer all the "favorites". So somebody tell me where IE is better in floating. Fashion?



Can't count?
U R kidding. Right?

Oopps, you said couldn't. Again, I stand corrected.


Mozilla Firefox transfers them for u smile.gif

What I don't like about Mozilla is that when you bookmark a page, such as a page from one of C-Span Sucks' boards, it won't update the previous one, so you end up with numerous bookmarked pages from the same board.
Bix12
QUOTE(Bee @ Jul 27 2006, 09:41 AM) [snapback]223938[/snapback]

She can't help it. No imagination and she only see's what her masters tell her to see.

Hey judy, google "Garden of Eden"

laugh.gif

What a fool. Swallowed the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

"Oh, the arabs just live in arid desert, I saw it myself."

Moron.



You don't honestly expect these bigots to see anything beyond the end of their piggie snouts, do you?

Let'm wallow in their ignorance---I figger the sooner they p*ss off the wrong person, the sooner this world is a better place---
judy
Mark Twain's visit to Lebanon, Syria, and the Holy Land in 1867 was published in "The Innocents Abroad", where he described Palestine as follows:

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"..... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent mournful expanse.... a desolation.... we never saw a human being on the whole route.... hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."
(The Innocents Abroad, p. 361-362)



Innocents Abroad
Chapter LVI


We visited all the holy places about Jerusalem which we had left unvisited when we journeyed to the Jordan and then, about three o'clock one afternoon, we fell into procession and marched out at the stately amascus gate, and the walls of Jerusalem shut us out forever. We paused on the summit of a distant hill and took a final look and made a final farewell to the venerable city which had been such a good home to us.

For about four hours we traveled down hill constantly. We followed a narrow bridle-path which traversed the beds of the mountain gorges, and when we could we got out of the way of the long trains of laden camels
and asses, and when we could not we suffered the misery of being mashed up against perpendicular walls of rock and having our legs bruised by the passing freight. Jack was caught two or three times, and Dan and Moult as often. One horse had a heavy fall on the slippery rocks, and the others had narrow escapes. However, this was as good a road as we had found in Palestine, and possibly even the best, and so there was not much grumbling.

Sometimes, in the glens, we came upon luxuriant orchards of figs, apricots, pomegranates, and such things, but oftener the scenery was rugged, mountainous, verdureless and forbidding. Here and there, towers were perched high up on acclivities which seemed almost inaccessible. This fashion is as old as Palestine itself and was adopted in ancient times for security against enemies.

We crossed the brook which furnished David the stone that killed Goliah, and no doubt we looked upon the very ground whereon that noted battle was fought. We passed by a picturesque old gothic ruin whose stone pavements had rung to the armed heels of many a valorous Crusader, and we rode through a piece of country which we were told once knew Samson as a citizen.

We staid all night with the good monks at the convent of Ramleh, and in the morning got up and galloped the horses a good part of the distance from there to Jaffa, or Joppa, for the plain was as level as a floor and
free from stones, and besides this was our last march in Holy Land. These two or three hours finished, we and the tired horses could have rest and sleep as long as we wanted it. This was the plain of which
Joshua spoke when he said, "Sun, stand thou still on Gibeon, and thou moon in the valley of Ajalon." As we drew near to Jaffa, the boys spurred up the horses and indulged in the excitement of an actual race--
an experience we had hardly had since we raced on donkeys in the Azores islands.

We came finally to the noble grove of orange-trees in which the Oriental city of Jaffa lies buried; we passed through the walls, and rode again down narrow streets and among swarms of animated rags, and saw other
sights and had other experiences we had long been familiar with. We dismounted, for the last time, and out in the offing, riding at anchor, we saw the ship! I put an exclamation point there because we felt one
when we saw the vessel. The long pilgrimage was ended, and somehow we seemed to feel glad of it.

Simon the Tanner formerly lived here. We went to his house. All the pilgrims visit Simon the Tanner's house. Peter saw the vision of the beasts let down in a sheet when he lay upon the roof of Simon the Tanner's house. It was from Jaffa that Jonah sailed when he was told to go and prophesy against Nineveh, and no doubt it was not far from the town that the whale threw him up when he discovered that he had no ticket. Jonah was disobedient, and of a fault-finding, complaining disposition, and deserves to be lightly spoken of, almost. The timbers used in the construction of Solomon's Temple were floated to Jaffa in rafts, and the narrow opening in the reef through which they passed to the shore is not an inch wider or a shade less dangerous to navigate than it was then. Such is the sleepy nature of the population Palestine's only good seaport has now and always had. Jaffa has a history and a stirring one. It will not be discovered any where in this book. If the reader will call at the circulating library and mention my name, he will be furnished with books which will afford him the fullest information concerning Jaffa.

So ends the pilgrimage. We ought to be glad that we did not make it for the purpose of feasting our eyes upon fascinating aspects of nature, for we should have been disappointed--at least at this season of the year. A writer in "Life in the Holy Land" observes:

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"Monotonous and uninviting as much of the Holy Land will appear to persons accustomed to the almost constant verdure of flowers, ample streams and varied surface of our own country, we must remember that its aspect to the Israelites after the weary march of forty years through the desert must have been very different."


Which all of us will freely grant. But it truly is "monotonous and uninviting," and there is no sufficient reason for describing it as being otherwise.

Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince. The hills are barren, they are dull of color, they are unpicturesque in shape. The valleys are unsightly deserts fringed with a feeble vegetation that has an expression about it of being sorrowful and despondent. The Dead Sea and the Sea of Galilee sleep in the midst of a vast stretch of hill and plain wherein the eye rests upon no pleasant tint, no striking object, no soft picture dreaming in a purple haze or mottled with the shadows of the clouds. Every outline is harsh, every feature is distinct, there is no perspective--distance works no enchantment here. It is a hopeless, dreary, heart-broken land.

Small shreds and patches of it must be very beautiful in the full flush of spring, however, and all the more beautiful by contrast with the far- reaching desolation that surrounds them on every side. I would like much
to see the fringes of the Jordan in spring-time, and Shechem, Esdraelon, Ajalon and the borders of Galilee--but even then these spots would seem mere toy gardens set at wide intervals in the waste of a limitless
desolation.

Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies. Where Sodom and Gomorrah reared their domes and towers, that solemn sea now floods the plain, in whose bitter waters no living thing exists--over whose waveless surface the blistering air hangs motionless and dead-- about whose borders nothing grows but weeds, and scattering tufts of cane, and that treacherous fruit that promises refreshment to parching lips, but turns to ashes at the touch. Nazareth is forlorn; about that ford of Jordan where the hosts of Israel entered the Promised Land with songs of rejoicing, one finds only a squalid camp of fantastic Bedouins of the desert; Jericho the accursed, lies a moldering ruin, to-day, even as Joshua's miracle left it more than three thousand years ago; Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and their humiliation, have nothing about
them now to remind one that they once knew the high honor of the Saviour's presence; the hallowed spot where the shepherds watched their flocks by night, and where the angels sang Peace on earth, good will to
men, is untenanted by any living creature, and unblessed by any feature that is pleasant to the eye. Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a
pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone, and the Ottoman crescent is lifted above the spot where, on that most memorable day in the annals of the world, they reared the Holy Cross. The noted Sea of Galilee, where Roman fleets once rode at anchor and the disciples of the Saviour sailed in their ships, was long ago deserted by the devotees of war and commerce, and its borders are a silent wilderness; Capernaum is a shapeless ruin; Magdala is the home of beggared Arabs; Bethsaida and Chorazin have vanished from the earth, and the "desert places" round about them where thousands of men once listened to the Saviour's voice and ate the miraculous bread, sleep in the hush of a solitude that is
inhabited only by birds of prey and skulking foxes.

Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise? Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land?


Palestine is no more of this work-day world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition--it is dream-land.
Carol
Annan's Claims On Casualties May Unravel

By BENNY AVNI - Staff Reporter of the Sun
July 27, 2006





UNITED NATIONS — An apparent discrepancy in the portrayal of events surrounding the deaths of four unarmed U.N. observers in Lebanon threatens to unravel Secretary-General Annan's initial accusation that Israel "deliberately" targeted the U.N. Interim Force in Lebanon.

A Canadian U.N. observer, one of four killed at a UNIFIL position near the southern Lebanese town of Khiyam on Tuesday, sent an e-mail to his former commander, a Canadian retired major-general, Lewis MacKenzie, in which he wrote that Hezbollah fighters were "all over" the U.N. position, Mr. MacKenzie said. Hezbollah troops, not the United Nations, were Israel's target, the deceased observer wrote.

A senior U.N. peacekeeping operation official who briefed the press yesterday, however, said that on the day the deaths occurred, the only "known Hezbollah activity was 5 kilometers away."The official's briefing was conditioned on anonymity, but the undersecretary-general for peacekeeping operations, Jane Holl Lute, supplied the Security Council with similar information at an earlier briefing yesterday.

"To our knowledge, unlike the vicinity of some of our other patrol bases, Hezbollah firing was not taking place within the immediate vicinity" of the base that was hit Tuesday.

Based on reporting by the U.N.'s peacekeeping chief, Jean-Marie Guéhenno, Mr. Annan alleged in Rome Tuesday that the incident was an apparent "deliberate targeting by Israeli Defense Forces of a U.N. Observer post in southern Lebanon." Although Mr. Annan began to backtrack yesterday, his spokeswoman, Marie Okabe, said he stood by the accusation.

Mr. MacKenzie, who after retiring from the Canadian military became a politician, had a very different interpretation. "I happen to know" the now-deceased Canadian U.N. observer, Major Paeta Hess-von Kruedener, Mr. MacKenzie told the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in a radio interview yesterday.

"We've received e-mails from him a few days ago and he was describing the fact that he was taking fire within, in one case, three meters of his position ‘for tactical necessity — not being targeted,'" Mr. MacKenzie said he wrote.

In one such e-mail, obtained by The New York Sun, Hess-von Kruedener wrote about heavy IDF artillery and aerial bombardment "within 2 meters of our position." The Israeli shooting, he added, "has not been deliberate targeting, but has rather been due to tactical necessity."

The correspondence between the trooper and former commander amounted to "veiled speech in the military," Mr. MacKenzie, who once commanded the U.N. troops in Bosnia, told the CBC. "What he was telling us was Hezbollah fighters were all over his position and the IDF were targeting them, and that's a favorite trick by people who don't have representation in the U.N. They use the U.N. as shields knowing that they cannot be punished for it."

A spokesman for the peacekeeping operation department, Nicholas Birnbach, told the Sun yesterday that when the U.N. official told reporters that there was no Hezbollah activity within three miles of the U.N. camp, she was referring only to the Monday incident and not to the time period of several days earlier described in the UNIFIL observer's e-mail.


Mr. Birnbach, however, declined to produce a UNIFIL report that would back up Ms. Lute's assertion that there was no Hezbollah activity in the immediate vicinity of the post, which was manned by three other observers beside Hess-von Kruedener.

Mr. Annan and the peacekeeping official yesterday said they now "accept" Prime Minister Olmert's conveyance of regret over the incident. They also said they accept Mr. Olmert's characterization of it as a "tragic mistake," the official said. Ms. Okabe, however, told the Sun yesterday that Mr. Annan would not retract his assertion that Israel deliberately targeted the post.

Mr. Annan and Ms. Lute yesterday welcomed Mr. Olmert's announcement that Israel would launch an investigation, which "we believe should be done jointly with the United Nations," Ms. Lute said.

France's U.N. ambassador, Jean-Marc de la Sabliere, who holds the Security Council presidency, said yesterday he too would like to see a joint investigation, which he said would be beneficial to Israel, adding credibility to the results.

Israel's deputy U.N. ambassador, Daniel Carmon, told the Sun, however, that while the IDF would welcome "any U.N. input," it did not intend to launch a joint investigation. "We will conduct a thorough investigation and inform the U.N. of the results in detail," he said.

The council yesterday attempted to agree on a statement on the deaths of the U.N. observers, but the American ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton, objected to any condemnation of Israel. Mr. Bolton also warned against using the incident as a "backdoor way of getting a cease-fire or other larger political and military questions," he told reporters.

Mr. Annan has called for "immediate cessation of hostilities." During yesterday's council briefing on the UNIFIL incident, Ms. Lute said, "I reiterate" that call.




http://www.nysun.com/article/36860?page_no=3


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Observe. Obsurd.


The U.N. deliberately puts its people out there in the middle of a war zone, then wonders how they could have been killed. Thousands of people have been scrambling to get out of that area so they won't be in danger; yet, the U.N. just doesn't get it. What do they think they're watching - a baseball game?




Annan is the one who should be doing the apologizing. He should be apologizing for smearing himself, and the U.N. with such ignominy. He barely had any facts as to what actually happened, and accepts no responsibility for the U.N.'s role in placing those people in immenent danger, yet he goes public and dlams Israel. What a disgrace. Annan severely lacks the necessary diplomatic skills for a person in his position and he should step down before he harms the U.N. any further.








judy
QUOTE(Bee @ Jul 27 2006, 09:41 AM) [snapback]223938[/snapback]

She can't help it. No imagination and she only see's what her masters tell her to see.

Hey judy, google "Garden of Eden"

laugh.gif

What a fool. Swallowed the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

"Oh, the arabs just live in arid desert, I saw it myself."

Moron.


GARDEN OF EDEN?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Read the Bible and find out where it was and what happened to it.

If you think Arabs lived in the Garden of Eden Repub Bub is right... you display your ignorance in a number of subjects.
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