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Bart Katz
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During his four years in the White House, he presided over the worst economic downturn since World War II, allowed a bunch of thugs to seize our embassy and our citizens, and supported Philippine dictator Fernando Marcos, Pakistani General Zia al Huq, Saudi King Faud and many other dictators. But Jimmy Carter was a much better president than he is an ex-president.

In fact, Jimmy Carter holds the hands-down record for being the worst ex-president the United States has ever known. His post-presidential meddling in foreign affairs has cost America dearly, both in terms of international credibility and international prestige.

He defied US law by visiting Cuba, even addressing the Cuban public and handing Castro a huge propaganda victory. He oversaw the elections in Haiti, against the expressed wishes of the Clinton administration. A coup followed.

Carter once described Yugoslav strongman Marshal Josef Tito as "a man who believes in human rights." Regarding North Korea's dearly departed Kim Il-Sung, Carter found him "vigorous, intelligent, surprisingly well-informed about the technical issues, and in charge of the decisions about this country," adding "I don't see that [North Koreans] are an outlaw nation."

He was similarly generous regarding Manuel Noriega, Romanian dictator Nicolai Ceaucescu and, of course, Yasser Arafat. He said of Ceausescu and himself, "Our goals are the same: to have a just system of economics and politics . . . We believe in enhancing human rights."

Virtually all of the humanitarian activities of the Carter Foundation abroad have been in direct opposition to US foreign policy. Carter called Bush�s description of Iran, Iraq and North Korea as an "axis of evil" was "overly simplistic and counterproductive.�

Added the man who was once attacked by a rabbit, "I think it will take years before we can repair the damage done by that statement."

His most recent adventure may be partly behind the predicted $3.00 per gallon analysts say we'll be paying for gas by year's end. Jimmy Carter went to Venezuela to 'monitor' that country's effort to recall President Hugo Chavez.

In 1992, a band of army officers led by Lt. Col. Hugo Ch�vez Fr�as attempted to overthrow President Carlos Andr�s P�rez. Although court-martialed and jailed, Ch�vez emerged a hero.

In 1998, he was elected president on promises to clean out corruption and reduce poverty. Once in office, Ch�vez promoted a new consitution to consolidate his powers and began to constrain the business community, civil society, and rival politicians.

As a presidential candidate, Hugo Ch�vez campaigned against the "savage capitalism" of the United States. On August 10, 2000, he became the first foreign leader to visit Saddam Hussein since the Gulf War, and he allegedly aided Afghanistan's Taliban government following the September 11, 2001, attack on the United States.

At the same time, Ch�vez said that Cuba and Venezuela were "called upon to be a spearhead and summon other nations and governments" to fight free market capitalism.

Venezuela is also one of the countries upon which the United States is dependent for oil, and has been since the US first began relying on imported oil supplies back in 1948.

Besides supplying the United States with 1.5 million barrels of oil a day, Venezuela provides most of the petroleum consumed by U.S. allies in the Caribbean and Central America.

Regional leaders know that opposing Ch�vez in any significant fashion could result in less favorable sales terms or cuts in deliveries.

In September 2003, President Ch�vez accused the Dominican Republic of harboring Venezuelans--like former President Carlos Andr�s P�rez--who allegedly might conspire against his government. Chavez then stopped oil deliveries, prompting a temporary energy crisis while Dominican officials scrambled for new suppliers.

From the perspective of American economic interests, not to mention homeland security issues, Hugo Chavez is a very bad man to have in the neighborhood. And, thanks to Jimmy Carter, Chavez isn't going away anytime soon.

Venezuela's opposition party finally forced a recall election, with opinion polls showing that voters favored his recall by a margin of more than 2 to 1.

When there were questions about possible vote tampering by the Chavez side, the opposition called for election monitors. Chavez agreed to let Jimmy Carter oversee the election, and the Carter Center headed for Caracas.

Under Jimmy Carter's watchful eye, Hugo Chavez defeated the recall attempt by a wide margin -- reflecting almost a mirror-image of the opinion polls.

While two out of three Venzuelans polled before the election wanted Chavez out, when the ballots were counted, Chavez was declared the winner by an almost exact opposite margin. "About 58 percent said 'no' to a recall, while 42 percent said 'yes,'" wrote the Washington Post.

Carter ignored a press release from the polling firm Penn, Schoen & Berland Assoc. that reported, "Exit Poll Results Show Major Defeat for Chavez." The release, dated 7:30 p.m. on election day, said, "With Venezuela's voting set to end at 8 p.m. EST according to election officials, final exit poll results from Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates, an independent New York-based polling firm, show a major victory for the 'Yes' movement, defeating Chavez in the Venezuela presidential recall referendum."

One of the most effective ways to monitor the fairness of an election is to employ the use of exit polls. In a nutshell, here's how exit polls work. After somebody has finished voting, a pollster will ask them how they voted. In emerging democracies, about 90% of voters participate.

By contrast, in America, where exit polls are widely used to call elections before the votes are all counted, less than 40% of voters participate.

Statistically, exit polls should mirror the actual vote, within a relatively thin margin of error.

The margin of error between Carter's certified fair-and-square ballots and the independent exit poll results constituted a swing of almost forty points -- a statistical impossibility. Chavez counted on Carter leaning his way -- Carter's history of promoting anti-American dictators is no secret.

As Stephen Hayward noted in a column at Front Page, "among his complex motivations is his determination to override American foreign policy when it suits him."

Indeed, Carter's penchant for interfering in US foreign policy is so well known it won him a Nobel Prize. Jimmy Carter will go down in history as the first US ex-president ever to be awarded a Nobel Prize for the sole purpose of conveying an insult to his country from the Nobel committee.

Gunnar Berge, chairman of the five-member committee, told reporters that giving the Peace Prize to Carter "must also be seen as criticism of the line the current U.S. administration has taken on Iraq ... It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."

("How can we REALLY show how much we hate the Americans? I know! Let's give a Nobel Prize to Jimmy Carter!")

Once Chavez had stolen the election and Jimmy Carter certified the results, certain American critics (pretty much anybody with a brain) started questioning whether or not Jimmy Carter had just sold American interests down the river -- again.

Carter hit back in a Wall Street Journal Opinion piece, writing;

"We are familiar with potential fraudulent techniques and how to obtain a close approximation to the actual results to assure accuracy."

Having established that Jimmy Carter is far too savvy to be conned by a mere thug like Chavez, Carter then dismissed the results of the exit polls, writing;

"During the voting day, opposition leaders claimed to have exit-poll data showing the government losing by 20 percentage points, and this erroneous information was distributed widely."

Well, that's that! The New York pollsters 'widely distributed erroneous information' -- Hugo Chavez won fair and square. Jimmy Carter says so.

Penn Schoen evidently must have cheated, although it is a reputable New York polling firm with a 20 year track record, including working for Bill Clinton in 1996, Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2001, Michael Bloomberg in 2001 and many other national political campaigns.

Why would it risk its hard-won professional reputation over an election in Venezuela? Carter doesn't explain.

Hugo Chavez is bad news from the perspective of US national security. He is bad news from the perspective of homeland security. He is bad news from the perspective of US dependence of foreign oil. And he is bad news for America's economic security.

Which makes Hugo Chavez good news from the perspective of the worst ex-president in US history.

Excerpted from the Omega Letter Daily Intelligence Digest, Volume:35: Issue 26


http://www.vcrisis.com/print.php?content=l...rs/200408310659
judy
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Sometimes when I look at all my children, I say to myself,
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"Lillian, you should have stayed a virgin."

. . . . . . . Lillian Carter
hunin
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Jimmy Carter
Historian Survey Results

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OVERALL RANK 22


http://www.americanpresidents.org/survey/historians/38.asp

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Jimmy Carter
Viewer Survey Results

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OVERALL RANK 27


http://www.americanpresidents.org/survey/viewer/38.asp

Zogby poll ( re prezes since Roosevelt ) from this Jan. puts Carter just below GHWBush and considerably above Bushie. wink.gif

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1057

Only 11% saw Carter as below average. Bushie got 40% as below average. ohmy.gif
Arturo_Vandelay
I do love polls of people who can't remember past Carter. With the way history is dropping out of favor, pretty soon people won't remember the 20th century presidents.

Every time Hannity does his man on the street interview half the people don't know who the VP is TODAY.

I got to hear Zogby on the radio the other day concerning his new poll from Iraq. He stormed off in a huff because he doesn't want anyone to know who paid for it, who conducted it on the ground, or what the methods were.
hunin
Well, I would put the most weight on the historians survey.

CharlieRay
I like Carter. smile.gif
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(hunin @ Mar 5 2006, 05:06 PM) [snapback]189149[/snapback]
Well, I would put the most weight on the historians survey.



I don't put much weight behind academics, less so after seeing guys like Ward Churchill come to prominence.

I'm sticking with George Washington #1, and all the rest well behind.
SherryB
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 5 2006, 07:23 PM) [snapback]189154[/snapback]

I don't put much weight behind academics, less so after seeing guys like Ward Churchill come to prominence.

I'm sticking with George Washington #1, and all the rest well behind.


av & Bart,
You should research the sites you post here. vcrisis is put out by an e-activist from England named Aleksander Boyd. It's associated with the Heritage Foundation. Boyd is a former bell hop who opposes Chavez. It doesn't seem to be a very reliable source of information.
underhi2p
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 5 2006, 07:01 PM) [snapback]189147[/snapback]

I do love polls of people who can't remember past Carter. With the way history is dropping out of favor, pretty soon people won't remember the 20th century presidents.

Every time Hannity does his man on the street interview half the people don't know who the VP is TODAY.

I got to hear Zogby on the radio the other day concerning his new poll from Iraq. He stormed off in a huff because he doesn't want anyone to know who paid for it, who conducted it on the ground, or what the methods were.



Zogby's polls are farking worthless.

He used his reputation as being an efficient an accurate pollster to mislead and attempt to sway voter opinion.

The guy is a farking A Rab so I guess I should have known better than to trust the farking sand nigger.

OH, and since this is a Carter is the worst ex-president, I agree. the guy totally sucked.

forqued up Iran, forqued up the economy, forqued up everything.

He beat Splash Kennedy though. Didn't mean much as Reagan wouldn't have wiped Splash's drunken grin off his face too.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(SherryB @ Mar 5 2006, 05:34 PM) [snapback]189155[/snapback]


av,

You should research the sites you post here. vcrisis is put out by an e-activist from England named Aleksander Boyd. It's associated with the Heritage Foundation. Boyd is a former bell hop who opposes Chavez. It doesn't seem to be a very reliable source of information.


As a former bouncer I'm happy to see a former bellhop become an e-ectivist. I don't find Mickey Kaus or the poofter from antiwar.com any less activist or more believable. The Heritage Foundation has their view, and you have yours.
SherryB
QUOTE(underhi2p @ Mar 5 2006, 07:38 PM) [snapback]189156[/snapback]

Zogby's polls are farking worthless.

He used his reputation as being an efficient an accurate pollster to mislead and attempt to sway voter opinion.

The guy is a farking A Rab so I guess I should have known better than to trust the farking sand nigger.

OH, and since this is a Carter is the worst ex-president, I agree. the guy totally sucked.

forqued up Iran, forqued up the economy, forqued up everything.

He beat Splash Kennedy though. Didn't mean much as Reagan wouldn't have wiped Splash's drunken grin off his face too.


I was going to reply to this, but instead I'll just put you on ignore with the rest of the vile people. Bye.


hunin
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 5 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]189154[/snapback]

I don't put much weight behind academics, less so after seeing guys like Ward Churchill come to prominence.




Oh please, bring dufus Ward in to the appraisal of historians. BTW his degree was in Communications - his job in CO teaching "ethnic studies."

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do love polls of people who can't remember past Carter. With the way history is dropping out of favor, pretty soon people won't remember the 20th century presidents


So you don't like polls of people who can't remember nor those who do? laugh.gif
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(hunin @ Mar 5 2006, 06:00 PM) [snapback]189160[/snapback]



Oh please, bring dufus Ward in to the appraisal of historians. BTW his degree was in Communications - his job in CO teaching "ethnic studies."



So you don't like polls of people who can't remember nor those who do? laugh.gif


Lots of people remember, but don't make a career of it. I hold no special place for historians in general, they have opinions just like everyone else.

"Ethnic studies" just about defines modern liberalism for me.
Bart Katz

QUOTE(SherryB @ Mar 5 2006, 06:34 PM) [snapback]189155[/snapback]

av & Bart,
You should research the sites you post here. vcrisis is put out by an e-activist from England named Aleksander Boyd. It's associated with the Heritage Foundation. Boyd is a former bell hop who opposes Chavez. It doesn't seem to be a very reliable source of information.



What was said that was incorrect?
Bart Katz
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Jimmy Carter: America's best ex-president? Only if you're not bothered by the resurgence of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism (which started on his watch), the shamefaced foreign policy of Bill Clinton and John Kerry (ditto), and think that ex-presidents should travel the world coddling dictators and bad-mouthing America à la Jesse Jackson. Jimmy Carter has been given a free ride from the liberal media, liberal historians, and even the American people, who excuse his political delinquencies and disasters on the grounds that he is a "good" man. But as bank robber Willie Sutton said of Carter: "I've never seen a bigger confidence man in my life, and I've been around some of the best in the business." It's time to set the record straight. Finally, an honest historian-Steven F. Hayward, author of The Age of Reagan-demolishes the myth of "Saint" Jimmy and exposes how he created today's leftist Democratic party of John Kerry and Hillary Clinton. Jimmy Carter's laundry list of failures aren't just accidents of history: They're rooted in Carter's deeply flawed character and ideology-a smugly pious arrogance matched with a profound distrust of America. The Real Jimmy Carter reveals: • Carter as meddling ex-president: Why a Time magazine columnist wrote that some of Carter's "Lone Ranger work has taken him dangerously close to the neighborhood of what we used to call treason" • How Carter befriended North Korea during the Clinton administration, appeasing the communist regime and giving it cover for its nuclear weapons program • How Carter made direct contacts with Soviet officials to try to subvert President Reagan's anti-communist policies • The shocking extent of Carter's clandestine efforts to sabotage the first Gulf War in 1990 and how he used Gulf War II to publicly question the Christian faith of America's commander in chief • How Carter befriended Yasir Arafat-making himself an enemy of Israel • Carter as politician: a vicious campaigner-and even race-baiter • The Carter White House during the disasters of the Sandinista takeover of Nicaragua, the energy crisis and stagflation, the Iranian revolution and hostage crisis, and the invasion of Afghanistan • How Carter, the failed president, remade himself as Carter the humanitarian and freelance foreign policy critic of America • How a Nobel official inadvertently revealed that Carter's Nobel Prize was actually meant as a slap at America The Real Jimmy Carter is a shocker, showing why the peanut president should never have left his farm.


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Carol
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Mar 5 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]189131[/snapback]


Cater was a joke. He just slipped in on a fluke of the times. Total mistake. <shaking head>

You have to wonder "What were we thinking!?
davis¹³
Carter never advocated torture. Bush and Cheney do. What kind of an American advocates torture EVEN WHILE SIGNING AN ANTI-TORTURE BILL?

I have to wonder "what were you thinking"?
Bart Katz
QUOTE(Carol @ Mar 6 2006, 07:06 AM) [snapback]189199[/snapback]

Cater was a joke. He just slipped in on a fluke of the times. Total mistake. <shaking head>

You have to wonder "What were we thinking!?



Flukey and flakey.
CharlieRay
QUOTE(Bart Katz @ Mar 6 2006, 09:45 AM) [snapback]189262[/snapback]

Flukey and flakey.


I liked/like Carter... smile.gif

I liked/like Ford also... smile.gif

You can have your present pResident and the last 3 with him. dry.gif
beasty
The difference is Ford didn't disgrace the role of ex-president as statesman by playing political hack.
hunin
Lessee what a really conservative crew thinks:

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Federalist Society - The Wall Street Journal Survey on Presidents


http://www.opinionjournal.com/hail/rankings.html

Poll from 2000.

Carter rates above Nixon.


Bart Katz
QUOTE(hunin @ Mar 6 2006, 10:59 AM) [snapback]189276[/snapback]

Lessee what a really conservative crew thinks:



http://www.opinionjournal.com/hail/rankings.html

Poll from 2000.

Carter rates above Nixon.


Below average.

But then this thread is about worst ex-president.
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(hunin @ Mar 6 2006, 09:59 AM) [snapback]189276[/snapback]
Lessee what a really conservative crew thinks:



http://www.opinionjournal.com/hail/rankings.html

Poll from 2000.

Carter rates above Nixon.




78 scholars? Like anything else the people and the methodology are open to debate. It's interesting, but the reality is it's just more opinion.
CharlieRay
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 6 2006, 10:13 AM) [snapback]189279[/snapback]

78 scholars? Like anything else the people and the methodology are open to debate. It's interesting, but the reality is it's just more opinion.


We all have opinions... but you Carter hater opinions stink. smile.gif
underhi2p
Jimmy Carter: The Worst Ex-President in History
By Jack Kinsella - Omega Letter Editor
During his four years in the White House, he presided over the worst economic downturn since World War II, allowed a bunch of thugs to seize our embassy and our citizens, and supported Philippine dictator Fernando Marcos, Pakistani General Zia al Huq, Saudi King Faud and many other dictators. But Jimmy Carter was a much better president than he is an ex-president.

In fact, Jimmy Carter holds the hands-down record for being the worst ex-president the United States has ever known. His post-presidential meddling in foreign affairs has cost America dearly, both in terms of international credibility and international prestige.

He defied US law by visiting Cuba, even addressing the Cuban public and handing Castro a huge propaganda victory. He oversaw the elections in Haiti, against the expressed wishes of the Clinton administration. A coup followed.

Carter once described Yugoslav strongman Marshal Josef Tito as "a man who believes in human rights." Regarding North Korea's dearly departed Kim Il-Sung, Carter found him "vigorous, intelligent, surprisingly well-informed about the technical issues, and in charge of the decisions about this country," adding "I don't see that [North Koreans] are an outlaw nation."

He was similarly generous regarding Manuel Noriega, Romanian dictator Nicolai Ceaucescu and, of course, Yasser Arafat. He said of Ceausescu and himself, "Our goals are the same: to have a just system of economics and politics . . . We believe in enhancing human rights."

Virtually all of the humanitarian activities of the Carter Foundation abroad have been in direct opposition to US foreign policy. Carter called Bush’s description of Iran, Iraq and North Korea as an "axis of evil" was "overly simplistic and counterproductive.”

Added the man who was once attacked by a rabbit, "I think it will take years before we can repair the damage done by that statement."

His most recent adventure may be partly behind the predicted $3.00 per gallon analysts say we'll be paying for gas by year's end. Jimmy Carter went to Venezuela to 'monitor' that country's effort to recall President Hugo Chavez.

In 1992, a band of army officers led by Lt. Col. Hugo Chávez Frías attempted to overthrow President Carlos Andrés Pérez. Although court-martialed and jailed, Chávez emerged a hero.

In 1998, he was elected president on promises to clean out corruption and reduce poverty. Once in office, Chávez promoted a new consitution to consolidate his powers and began to constrain the business community, civil society, and rival politicians.

As a presidential candidate, Hugo Chávez campaigned against the "savage capitalism" of the United States. On August 10, 2000, he became the first foreign leader to visit Saddam Hussein since the Gulf War, and he allegedly aided Afghanistan's Taliban government following the September 11, 2001, attack on the United States.

At the same time, Chávez said that Cuba and Venezuela were "called upon to be a spearhead and summon other nations and governments" to fight free market capitalism.

Venezuela is also one of the countries upon which the United States is dependent for oil, and has been since the US first began relying on imported oil supplies back in 1948.

Besides supplying the United States with 1.5 million barrels of oil a day, Venezuela provides most of the petroleum consumed by U.S. allies in the Caribbean and Central America.

Regional leaders know that opposing Chávez in any significant fashion could result in less favorable sales terms or cuts in deliveries.

In September 2003, President Chávez accused the Dominican Republic of harboring Venezuelans--like former President Carlos Andrés Pérez--who allegedly might conspire against his government. Chavez then stopped oil deliveries, prompting a temporary energy crisis while Dominican officials scrambled for new suppliers.

From the perspective of American economic interests, not to mention homeland security issues, Hugo Chavez is a very bad man to have in the neighborhood. And, thanks to Jimmy Carter, Chavez isn't going away anytime soon.

Venezuela's opposition party finally forced a recall election, with opinion polls showing that voters favored his recall by a margin of more than 2 to 1.

When there were questions about possible vote tampering by the Chavez side, the opposition called for election monitors. Chavez agreed to let Jimmy Carter oversee the election, and the Carter Center headed for Caracas.

Under Jimmy Carter's watchful eye, Hugo Chavez defeated the recall attempt by a wide margin -- reflecting almost a mirror-image of the opinion polls.

While two out of three Venzuelans polled before the election wanted Chavez out, when the ballots were counted, Chavez was declared the winner by an almost exact opposite margin. "About 58 percent said 'no' to a recall, while 42 percent said 'yes,'" wrote the Washington Post.

Carter ignored a press release from the polling firm Penn, Schoen & Berland Assoc. that reported, "Exit Poll Results Show Major Defeat for Chavez." The release, dated 7:30 p.m. on election day, said, "With Venezuela's voting set to end at 8 p.m. EST according to election officials, final exit poll results from Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates, an independent New York-based polling firm, show a major victory for the 'Yes' movement, defeating Chavez in the Venezuela presidential recall referendum."

One of the most effective ways to monitor the fairness of an election is to employ the use of exit polls. In a nutshell, here's how exit polls work. After somebody has finished voting, a pollster will ask them how they voted. In emerging democracies, about 90% of voters participate.

By contrast, in America, where exit polls are widely used to call elections before the votes are all counted, less than 40% of voters participate.

Statistically, exit polls should mirror the actual vote, within a relatively thin margin of error.

The margin of error between Carter's certified fair-and-square ballots and the independent exit poll results constituted a swing of almost forty points -- a statistical impossibility. Chavez counted on Carter leaning his way -- Carter's history of promoting anti-American dictators is no secret.

As Stephen Hayward noted in a column at Front Page, "among his complex motivations is his determination to override American foreign policy when it suits him."

Indeed, Carter's penchant for interfering in US foreign policy is so well known it won him a Nobel Prize. Jimmy Carter will go down in history as the first US ex-president ever to be awarded a Nobel Prize for the sole purpose of conveying an insult to his country from the Nobel committee.

Gunnar Berge, chairman of the five-member committee, told reporters that giving the Peace Prize to Carter "must also be seen as criticism of the line the current U.S. administration has taken on Iraq ... It's a kick in the leg to all that follow the same line as the United States."

("How can we REALLY show how much we hate the Americans? I know! Let's give a Nobel Prize to Jimmy Carter!")

Once Chavez had stolen the election and Jimmy Carter certified the results, certain American critics (pretty much anybody with a brain) started questioning whether or not Jimmy Carter had just sold American interests down the river -- again.

Carter hit back in a Wall Street Journal Opinion piece, writing;

"We are familiar with potential fraudulent techniques and how to obtain a close approximation to the actual results to assure accuracy."

Having established that Jimmy Carter is far too savvy to be conned by a mere thug like Chavez, Carter then dismissed the results of the exit polls, writing;

"During the voting day, opposition leaders claimed to have exit-poll data showing the government losing by 20 percentage points, and this erroneous information was distributed widely."

Well, that's that! The New York pollsters 'widely distributed erroneous information' -- Hugo Chavez won fair and square. Jimmy Carter says so.

Penn Schoen evidently must have cheated, although it is a reputable New York polling firm with a 20 year track record, including working for Bill Clinton in 1996, Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2001, Michael Bloomberg in 2001 and many other national political campaigns.

Why would it risk its hard-won professional reputation over an election in Venezuela? Carter doesn't explain.

Hugo Chavez is bad news from the perspective of US national security. He is bad news from the perspective of homeland security. He is bad news from the perspective of US dependence of foreign oil. And he is bad news for America's economic security.

Which makes Hugo Chavez good news from the perspective of the worst ex-president in US history.

Excerpted from the Omega Letter Daily Intelligence Digest, Volume:35: Issue 26


http://www.vcrisis.com/index.php?content=l...rs/200408310659
SherryB


They hate him because he's a real Christian. Not the false prophet type of Christian. Like Bush. I always think WWJD when deciding if someone is REALLY Christian or just using Christianity to cover evil ambitions.
Bart Katz
QUOTE(SherryB @ Mar 6 2006, 11:46 AM) [snapback]189290[/snapback]

They hate him because he's a real Christian. Not the false prophet type of Christian. Like Bush. I always think WWJD when deciding if someone is REALLY Christian or just using Christianity to cover evil ambitions.


Yeah, taking up for radical tyrants has always been the Christian thing to do. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

In your case you should maybe think what would JECJr do. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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davis¹³
You are a lousy Christian and a complete assshole.
underhi2p
QUOTE(SherryB @ Mar 6 2006, 12:46 PM) [snapback]189290[/snapback]

They hate him because he's a real Christian. Not the false prophet type of Christian. Like Bush. I always think WWJD when deciding if someone is REALLY Christian or just using Christianity to cover evil ambitions.



Good one Sherryb.

farking moron.
Bart Katz
WWJEC do?

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH !!!!!

QUOTE(underhi2p @ Mar 6 2006, 12:26 PM) [snapback]189304[/snapback]

Good one Sherryb.

farking moron.


Judge me lest you judge your own self, mother fornicator. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
Grigorii
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 5 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]189154[/snapback]

I don't put much weight behind academics, less so after seeing guys like Ward Churchill come to prominence.

I'm sticking with George Washington #1, and all the rest well behind.


Oh yeah Ward Churchill is sooooo typical of American College professors, in about the same way Ma Barker was typical of American mothers. When are you guys going to stop generalizing from isolated unrepresentative samples to the general.
Arturo_Vandelay
About ten minutes after you do.
Mizilus
QUOTE(beasty @ Mar 6 2006, 08:57 AM) [snapback]189274[/snapback]

The difference is Ford didn't disgrace the role of ex-president as statesman by playing political hack.



sure he did. Didnt he pardon that scumbag piece of sh_t nixon? And every last fascist repuslickan since him has acted in exactly the same way.
judy
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The Failure of Jimmy Carter
1 March, 2002 | J. King


Former President Jimmy Carter (right) recently called George W. Bush’s State of the Union “Axis of Evil” designation “overly simplistic” and “counter-productive”. By this action, Carter, in addition to breaking the unspoken command that previous U.S. Presidents should not publicly speak ill of their successors, furthermore made himself look both petty and foolish.

This, after all is Jimmy Carter, one of America‘s worst and most muddleheaded Presidents.
Who could ever forget the disastrous Presidency of Jimmy Carter? The obscure one-time Governor of Georgia, the Peanut Farmer of Plains, the guy whose cousin ran - of all improbable things - a WORM farm. Yes, who could ever forget Carter, elected almost on a whim by citizens fed-up with the corruption and lies that had been spun to them from Vietnam to Watergate. Despite the fact that he enjoyed a Congress composed of a House majority of 292-143, and a Senate majority of 62-38, Carter’s Presidency was a bungle through and through.

As a teenager in the 1970’s, I primarily remembered Carter’s Presidency from the offhand observances of someone more involved with high school politics than with the national scene. However, I do remember the ominous “Sky Is Falling” tenor of the times. I recall the dark pessimism which pervaded the atmosphere, from alarmist environmental predictions to the gnawing uncertainty - enhanced by Mr. Carter’s defeatist rhetoric - that America’s best days might, indeed, be over.

Living near a military base at the time, I also remember the resentment and anger of the troops that followed the botched “hostage rescue” attempt in Iran, in 1979. President Carter had been cutting and slashing the military budget since the day he took the oath of office. Now he was reaping the fruits of his fanciful delusions, but in true LibLeft form he blamed the military instead of himself and his hapless policies.

Relying upon teenage memories is never best, so in order to research this article I pulled out the book, The Age of Reagan, by Stephen F. Hayward. This tome, which spans the years 1960-1980, documents, in precise detail, the absolute failures of the Carter Administration on both the domestic and foreign fronts.

President Carter was imbued both with a hefty dose of white liberal guilt and a childish and naïve outlook towards our enemies abroad.
During the campaign, in 1976, Carter was chastised for his elusiveness on the issues. William F. Buckley, Jr., wrote that “Carter’s position on abortion is more variously conjugated than French irregular verbs”. The editor of The Atlanta Constitution during Carter’s reign as governor, Reg Murray, called Carter, “One of the three or four phoniest men I ever met.” Chris Matthews characterized Carter as “sincerely insincere”.

Yet, despite the difficulties, Carter was able to bridge the liberal and (rapidly dwindling) conservative wings of the Democratic Party. He went on to win the nomination, and then the Presidency. Early on, he antagonized the liberals by pushing welfare reform and a balanced budget. To appease them, he began to acquiesce to larger spending increases. The federal deficit subsequently boomed, from 40 billion in fiscal 1979, to 73 billion by 1980.

With the activist wing of the LibLeft pushing from behind, Carter was guided by an incoherent philosophy which, on the one hand eschewed growth under the guise of conservation of resources and on the other hand promoted interventionist activist government. In 1977, with the money supply growing at the rate of 11 percent per year, Carter’s liberal economic advisers promoted flooding the market with more dollars. The result was spiraling inflation, which grew from 7 percent in 1977 to a whopping 12 percent by 1979.

Likewise, foreign affairs had begun to disrupt the world oil supply. In Iran, the fall of the Shah in late 1978 caused Iran to cut oil production by 2 million barrels a day. This allowed the heretofore struggling OPEC oil cartel to rebound. OPEC immediately announced a 14.5 percent increase in oil prices. By the end of summer, 1979, oil prices had increased by over 50 percent. Economists calculated that the price of oil had increased 1,000 percent in a decade. President Carter immediately declared that an ambitious energy policy must be “the Moral Equivalent of War”, yielding the unfortunate acronym MEOW.

Carter was hampered, in many ways, by artificial price controls on oil imposed by the Nixon and Ford Administrations. However, he did not immediately lift price controls, preferring to lift them gradually, which earned him catcalls from both sides of the aisle. Also, Carter did not place the blame where it lay - with greedy Arab Sheiks - but instead chastised the American public for their “profligate, energy-wasting lifestyle.”

On the foreign front, Carter displayed an appalling lack of concern for traditional American interests.
Henry Kissenger, in 1980, stated that, “The Carter Administration has managed the extraordinary feat of having, at one and the same time, the worst relations with our allies, the worst relations with our adversaries, and the most serious upheavals in the developing world since the end of the Second World War.”

Carter’s proclamation that his foreign policy would be governed by a concern over “human rights”, initially spawned the hope that he would show resolve towards the excesses of the Soviet Bloc. Unfortunately, Carter instead soon displayed a sentimental outlook tinged with a heavy dose of leftist angst. Jeane Kirkpatrick noted acidly that, “Carter was the kind of liberal most likely to confound revolution with idealism, change with progress and optimism with virtue.” Carter’s aides were soon embarked on a rolling world tour of chest-beating mea-culpas apologizing for all America’s alleged errors since the end of World War II.

Carter began to embrace the socialist definition of “human rights”, namely that social and economic rights (such as housing and health care) took precedence over traditional American values such as the intrinsic rights of free individuals.
In 1977, Secretary of State Cyrus Vance - called the “closest thing to a pacifist that the U.S. has even had as Secretary of State” - actually stated, “There is a right to the fulfillment of such vital needs as food, shelter, health care and education.” Of course, this pretext of fulfilling “economic rights” had led to the brutal suppression of individual rights all across the globe.

Carter’s stance with the ominous USSR also took a radical departure from the traditional policy of Soviet Containment. On May 22nd, 1976, he told a stunned audience at Notre Dame that, “We are now free of our inordinate fear of communism”, and that the U.S. emphasis would be on, “new global questions of justice, equity and human rights.”

Carter wasted no time implementing his policies. During his first 24 hours in office, he ordered a unilateral pullout of all nuclear weapons in South Korea. Carter’s decision was made without consultation with the Joint Chiefs, Congress or any American allies including the South Koreans. In those first few days, he also granted unconditional amnesty to all Vietnam era draft dodgers. Carter slashed the military budget by $6 billion, and cancelled the production of both the B-1 bomber and the Trident submarine. Overall, Carter indicated that he intended to cut $56 billion from the seven-year military budget he had inherited from President Ford, without similar reductions being sought from the USSR.

Paul Warnke, the newly appointed chief arms control negotiator, dreamily imagined that the U.S. pullback would “end the arms race.” Of course, it only emboldened the Soviets, who were soon quickly producing arms and funding “revolutions“ all across the globe including in our backyard, South America.

Imbued with his anti-American sense of guilt, Jimmy Carter, in quick succession, signed a weak treaty giving away the American built, American financed Panama Canal; did nothing to prop up the traditionally friendly Shah’s regime in Iran; and allowed Marxist guerillas to infiltrate and finally topple the Somosa regime in Nicaragua.

In June of 1979, Carter emerged from a retreat at Camp David, where he had invited (almost exclusively liberal intelligensia) participants to comment on the stagnation of the nation. Carter emerged from that retreat to give a peculiar speech, in which he told Americans that they suffered from “a lack of confidence in the future”, and that they now “worshipped self-indulgence and consumption”. He also urged us to carpool and turn down our thermostats.

Americans, not surprisingly, did not react well to this national scolding. Ronald Reagan said, “People who talk about an age of limits are really talking about their own limitations, not America’s.” Carter’s popularity polls sank to 25 percent.

Another snag resulted when the negotiations over the new SALT II treaty resumed. Defense oriented Americans were outraged over the perceived advantage that the treaties gave the Soviets, and were concerned over the adamant refusal of the USSR to allow inspection teams in to verify that they were keeping their side of the bargain. Senator Henry Jackson, a well-known Democratic “hawk”, said, “ To enter a treaty which favors the Soviets such as this one does…..is appeasement in its purest form.” Unflattering comparisons were made, equating Carter with Neville Chamberlain.

Several of the LibLefts who favored “arms control” even argued that “Soviet paranoia” justified the imbalance of the treaty. Hedley Bull, (foreshadowing Madeleine Albright‘s “we don‘t want to be the lone superpower“ comment) wrote, “It is important that some state or group of states should undertake the task of balancing the power of the U.S. For the present, this can only be the USSR.”

Although Carter threatened to “Executive Order” the treaty, and did sign in in Vienna, it eventually died in the Senate.

In the meantime, the Shah of Iran, his health deteriorating rapidly, entered New York for medical treatment on October 22nd. “Students” and radicals in Iran protested mightily, and on November 4th 1979, a mob stormed the U.S. Embassy in Iran and took 67 hostages. Carter vacillated mightily, finally sending Communist sympathizer and apologist Ramsey Clark as an envoy to Iran. On December 25, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan.

Defense experts were alarmed. The USSR had long coveted a potential warm water port, and they were funding and fomenting the “revolution” in Iran. Could they be getting ready to conquer Iran? Carter’s pacifists, of course, were horrified at this betrayal by their old buddy, Russia. They were simply dumbstruck. Carter made some initial attempts at damage control, namely beefing up the defense budget by 5 percent. However, when the Congress, in May, tried to add another $3.2 billion to the military budget, Carter complained that the increase would, “severely restrain programs for jobs, cities, for training and for education.”

Jeane Kirkpatrick (left), who had initially hoped that the invasion would finally allow Carter to recognize the essential differences between totalitarian and free societies, gave up on him and decided instead to finally meet with Ronald Reagan.

Carter’s Administration, already sinking from its own ineptitude, received the death blow with the failure of the hostage rescue mission.
A combination of poor planning, unforeseen weather and inadequate training hampered a military already battered by Carter’s willful neglect. In the disaster, eight American servicemen lost their lives. Pictures of the forlorn wreckage were seared into the American soul, and deepened the contempt that many felt for Jimmy Carter. Although the media kept reporting that the 1980 election would be “a squeaker”, Ronald Reagan won a surprising 44 states, making for an electoral vote of 489-49.

America was finally liberated.

So, to our current President (right), who likewise saved us from the machinations of yet another anti-American deluded LibLeftist, I wouldn’t worry too much about what Jimmy Carter has to say. *** Link
davis¹³
I commend Carter for speaking out against Bush's hair-brained, totally insane foreign policy. It's already ruined our standing in the world and will end up bankrupting us both financially and morally. It's time for others to speak out as well before this administration bungles us into another country with war.
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I commend Carter for speaking out against Bush's hair-brained, totally insane foreign policy. It's already ruined our standing in the world and will end up bankrupting us both financially and morally. It's time for others to speak out as well before this administration bungles us into another country with war.



Good one Davis.

The farking sand niggers were burning effigies of Jimmie Carter.

Too bad, Jimmie sat around with his thumb up his ass and then had Sadat killed off.

davis¹³
Stick to fishing, bonehead.
judy
Jimmy Carter has often been an irritant to his successors in the White House. He exasperated Clinton on North Korea and Haiti,
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Jimmy Carter appalled the first Bush.In the run-up to the Gulf War,
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as the administration was trying to assemble a coalition against Iraq, Carter sent a letter to members of the U.N. Security Council, urging them to thwart the administration's effort. Some around Washington were heard to mutter "treason."


For the past many years, Jimmy Carter has been passionately anti-Israel, more or less embracing the PLO line. He has repeatedly been at the service of Yasser Arafat.
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After the Gulf War, the PLO chief was on the outs with Saudi Arabia, because he had backed Saddam Hussein. So he asked Carter to fly to Riyadh to smooth things over and restore Saudi funding to him — which he did. Arabs are also robust funders of the Carter Center, the ex-president's redoubt and vehicle in Atlanta.

Carter actually acted as PR adviser and speechwriter to Arafat. As Brinkley says, he "drafted on his home computer the strategy and wording for a generic speech Arafat was to deliver soon for Western ears . . .
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" The entire composition is nauseating, but its flavor can be captured in a single line: "Our people, who face Israeli bullets, have no weapons: only a few stones remaining when our homes are destroyed by Israeli bulldozers."


CHINA

In 1997, Carter wrote an op-ed piece entitled "It's Wrong to Demonize China." In it, he said,
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"Westerners emphasize personal freedoms, while a stable government and a unified nation are paramount to the Chinese. This means that policies are shaped by fear of chaos from unrestrained dissidents or fear of China's fragmentation. . . ."
He also suggested that freedom of religion had come to China — causing activists in the field, who know the horrid truth, to gnash their teeth.

Bee
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Jimmy Carter has often been an irritant to his successors in the White House. He exasperated Clinton on North Korea and Haiti,
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Jimmy Carter appalled the first Bush.In the run-up to the Gulf War,
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as the administration was trying to assemble a coalition against Iraq, Carter sent a letter to members of the U.N. Security Council, urging them to thwart the administration's effort. Some around Washington were heard to mutter "treason."
For the past many years, Jimmy Carter has been passionately anti-Israel, more or less embracing the PLO line. He has repeatedly been at the service of Yasser Arafat.
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After the Gulf War, the PLO chief was on the outs with Saudi Arabia, because he had backed Saddam Hussein. So he asked Carter to fly to Riyadh to smooth things over and restore Saudi funding to him — which he did. Arabs are also robust funders of the Carter Center, the ex-president's redoubt and vehicle in Atlanta.

Carter actually acted as PR adviser and speechwriter to Arafat. As Brinkley says, he "drafted on his home computer the strategy and wording for a generic speech Arafat was to deliver soon for Western ears . . .

CHINA

In 1997, Carter wrote an op-ed piece entitled "It's Wrong to Demonize China." In it, he said, He also suggested that freedom of religion had come to China — causing activists in the field, who know the horrid truth, to gnash their teeth.


What a dolt that Carter. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
Bee
Yet another post without a link?

Why aren't you scolding judy Bart?

I know that bothers you. Why she could be making all that stuff up and no one could check on it. laugh.gif

I'm sure this guy doen't appreciate judy plagiarizing his work without attribution.

By Jay Nordlinger, from the May 20, 2002, issue of National Review
judy
JIMMY CARTER NEVER MET A DICTATOR HE DIDN'T LIKE



While in office, Carter hailed Tito as
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"a man who believes in human rights."

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He said of Ceausescu and himself,
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"Our goals are the same: to have a just system of economics and politics . . . We believe in enhancing human rights."

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Since leaving office, Carter has praised Syria's late Assad (killer of at least 20,000 in Hama)
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and the Ethiopian tyrant Mengistu (killer of many more than that). IPB Image

In Haiti, Jimmy Carter told the dictator Cédras that he was
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"ashamed of what my country has done to your country."

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While in North Korea, Carter lauded Kim Il Sung, one of the most complete and destructive dictators in history. Said Carter,
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"I find him to be vigorous, intelligent,...and in charge of the decisions about this country" (well, he was absolute ruler). He said, "I don't see that they [the North Koreans] are an outlaw nation." Pyongyang, he observed, was a "bustling city," where shoppers "pack the department stores," reminding him of the "Wal-Mart in Americus, Georgia."

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Then there's his notorious friendship with Daniel Ortega, former strongman in Nicaragua. In 1984, when the Reagan administration was trying to put maximum pressure on Ortega to submit to democracy, Carter urged Habitat for Humanity to build in Nicaragua. A fine idea, perhaps, but here's the (classic) Carter twist:
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"We want the folks down there to know that some American Christians love them and that we don't all hate them."

In 1990, of course, Carter traveled to Managua to monitor the elections and to certify what he figured — and hoped, it seemed — would be a Sandinista victory. When the democratic opposition won instead, Carter was memorably churlish, even bitter. As Kirkpatrick says, "You'd have thought a democrat would be happy."
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Reference
judy
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Yet another post without a link?

Why aren't you scolding judy Bart?

I know that bothers you. Why she could be making all that stuff up and no one could check on it. laugh.gif

I'm sure this guy doen't appreciate judy plagiarizing his work without attribution.


Listen DUMBO! My post was too long.... you interrupted me.... as if I owe you an explanation, I don't.
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Bee’s new avatar.

Beware Jimmy Carter!

James Petras
8th Jully 2004


http://www.counterpunch.org/petras07082004.html
Source

On August 14, 2004, Venezuelan voters will decide on a referendum, which has the utmost world historic and strategic significance. What is at stake is nothing less than the future of the energy world, the relations between the US and Latin America (particularly Cuba), and the political and socio-economic fate of millions of Venezuela's urban and rural poor. If Chavez is defeated and if the Right takes power, it will privatize the state petroleum and gas company, selling it to US multinationals, withdraw from OPEC, raise its production and exports to the US, thus lowering Venezuelan revenues by half or more. Internally the popular health programs in the urban "ranchos" will end along with the literary campaign and public housing for the poor. The agrarian reform will be reversed and about 500,000 land reform recipients (100,000 families) will be turned off the land. This will be accomplished through extensive and intensive state bloodletting, jailing and extrajudicial assassination, and intense repression of pro-Chavez neighborhoods, trade unions and social movements. The apparently "democratic" referendum will have profoundly authoritarian, colonial and socially regressive results if the opposition wins.

Regionally, an anti-Chavez outcome will tighten the grip of US and Europe on Latin America's oil resources; the denationalization of the petroleum industry in the post-Chavez period will follow in the footsteps of Lula's privatization of Petrobras in Brazil, Gutierrez' privatization in Ecuador and the continuity of private foreign ownership in Argentina, Bolivia and Peru. Control of Venezuela's oil will heighten US control over world oil, decrease its dependence on the Mid East, especially with high intensity conflict in Iraq now, Saudi Arabia and Iran in the future. Equally important the US will eliminate the strongest opponent of ALCA--the free trade treaty--and pave the way for direct US control over the rules and regulations for trade and investment in the hemisphere. Strategically the US takeover of Venezuelan oil will have grave consequences on the Cuban economy as Washington will abruptly end exports and its client regime will likely break relations. Direct colonial control over Iraq and Venezuela, two of the top suppliers of oil will increase US global power over its competitors, while serving as an "object lesson" to potential opposition regimes.

The "referendum" in Venezuela emerges as a major clash between the US and OPEC, US imperialism and Latin American nationalists, neo-liberalism and social nationalism, between US-backed authoritarian ruling elites and endogenous socially conscious urban workers, unemployed, small business people, landless rural workers and small peasants. These historical confrontations find their specific focus in the referendum. The events leading up to the referendum speak eloquently of the crass US intervention, the violent tactics of the elites, the rule or ruin strategy of the opposition, the unbridled totalitarian propaganda of the privately owned mass media. The opposition has backed a violent military coup (which was defeated); it organized a bosses' lockout that almost destroyed the economy (which ended in defeat); it organized a contingent of over 130 Colombian military and paramilitary forces with the aid of active Venezuelan officers to sow violence--that was aborted by Venezuelan intelligence. Equally ominous, in the campaign to secure signatures for the referendum, fraudulent identity cards were massively produced and distributed, tens of thousands of deceased, incapacitated and coerced had their signatures forged and thousands of signatures were written by a single hand. Opposition corruption and fraud was rife but the official international observers urged the Chavez government to accept them and proceed to the referendum. More ominously among the key voices that made their presence felt were the ubiquitous Jimmy Carter and Jose Miguel Vivanco of Human Rights Watch.

The Unknown History of James Carter

The two faces of imperial power include the iron fist military intervention and the "soft sell" of electoral frauds, intimidating diplomacy and democratic blackmail. Jimmy Carter is "the quiet American" of Graham Greene fame, who legitimates voter fraud, blesses corrupt elections, certifies murderous rulers, encourages elections, in which the opposition is funded by the US state and semi-public foundations, and the incumbent progressive regime suffers repeated violent disruption of the economy.

Behind the simple and humane façade, Carter has a strategy to reverse progressive regimes and undermine insurgent democrats. Carter and his "team" from his Center probe and locate weaknesses among insecure democrats, particularly those under threat by US-backed opponents and thus vulnerable to Carter's appeals to be "pragmatic" and "realistic"--meaning his barely disguised arguments to accept fraudulent electoral results and gross US electoral intervention. Carter is a quiet master in mixing democratic rhetoric with manipulation of susceptible democrats who think he shares their democratic politics. The international mass media feature his self-promoted overseas trips to conflictual countries and above all his phony "human rights" record. The mass media provide Carter with the appearance of democratic credentials.

In fact, his frequent political interventions have been dedicated to sustaining dictators, legitimizing fraudulent elections and pressuring popular democratic candidates to capitulate before US-backed opponents. Carter has deliberately and systematically worked over the past quarter of a century to undermine progressive regimes and candidates and promote their pro-imperialist opponents.

Today in Venezuela, faced with a referendum of dubious validity, backed by the most rancid reactionaries, Carter once again poses as a "neutral monitor" while working with the anti-Chavez opposition to first legitimate the referendum then to provide opportunities for its favorable outcome. Carter has said absolutely nothing about strenuous US funding of the opposition--a blatant violation of any democratic, electoral process -- activities which would be felonious in his own country, the USA. He calls for "fair reporting" by the hysterically anti-Chavez mass media, knowing full well that, with a wink of his eye, they have free rein to provide exclusively favorable coverage of the opposition and uniformly negative disinformation about Chavez. In exchange Carter secured from Chavez a promise to avoid compulsory national chain broadcasts. Carter refuses to recognize that the electoral playing field is not equal, yet under the guise of "free press" he defends the right of the media oligarchs to voice venomous lies, denying the electorate the right to hear both sides. Carter refuses to recognize the intimidating effects of US military maneuvers in the Caribbean, the belligerent statements of undersecretary of state of Latin American Affairs Noriega against Chavez and the hyperactivity of the US Ambassador Shapiro in support of the anti-Chavez forces. Above all Carter ignores the plots, fraudulent practices and paramilitary activities leading up to and beyond the referendum. Focusing on enforcing the Government's compliance with electoral procedures and ignoring the highly prejudicial context of the election, Carter is fulfilling his role of a "set-up man" for either an electoral victory of the opposition or in the event of a defeat, for a post-election pretext for violent coup. Carter's history provides an extremely useful context for substantiating these observations and affirmation.

Carter Certifies a Stolen Election: Dominican Republic 1990

In 1993, I spent several hours interviewing Juan Bosch, the Dominican Republic's most notable democratic political leader. He told me that in the aftermath of the presidential elections of 1990, which he legally won, his opponent, the rightist, pro-US Juan Balaguer, engaged in massive theft, witnessed by poll watchers. Jimmy Carter headed the mission "monitoring" the election. Bosch presented Carter with a wealth of documents and testimony, witnesses and photos of Balaguer supporters dumping ballots in the river. Carter acknowledged the corruption and fraud, but urged Bosch to accept the results "to avoid a civil war". Bosch accused Carter of covering up to gain a US client. He led a march of 500,000 in protest. Carter certified Balaguer as the product of a "free election" and left. Balaguer proceeded to repress, pillage and privatize basic services.

Haiti I: Carter the Smiling Blackmailer

In 1990, Bertrand Aristide, a very popular former priest was leading in the polls with over 70% against a US-backed former World Bank functionary, Marc Bazin with barely 15% of popular support. Jimmy Carter, the self-styled neutral electoral monitor, set up a meeting with Aristide in which he demanded that Aristide withdraw from the elections in favor of the unpopular US candidate in order to avoid a "bloodbath". Carter did everything in his power to frighten Aristide and deny the populace its right to choose its president. Carter must have known in advance from his contacts with President Bush (Senior) that Washington was intent on preventing Haiti from taking an independent road. Eight months after Aristide's accession to the Presidency, a coup, backed by the US took place. Aristide was ousted and replaced and Carter's preferred candidate, Marc Bazin, was appointed Prime Minister, backed by a paramilitary terrorist group called FRAPH that instituted a "bloodbath" killing more than 4,000 Haitians. Carter and Bush, the quiet diplomat and the President with the iron fist worked in tandem, when the first failed, the latter stepped in.

Haiti II: General Cedras--Sunday School Teacher--1991-94


With Aristide out of the way, the US-backed regime proceeded to massacre thousands of Haitian supporters of the former elected President. The key member of the governing junta was General Cedras. With thousands of Haitians fleeing his brutal regime and heading for Florida, Jimmyb Carter spoke in defense of the bloody General Cedras, "I believe and trust in General Cedras." Later Carter gushed, "I believe he would be a worthy Sunday school teacher." Carter later certified the respectability of the disreputable dictator on his way to exile--after emptying the treasury. President Clinton convoked a meeting with Aristide in Washington. A Congressional aide privy to the meeting told me that Clinton's aide handed Aristide a neo-liberal program and list of cabinet ministers and told him his return to Haiti was contingent on accepting Washington's dictates. After many hours of psychological pressure, threats and arguments, Aristide capitulated. Clinton allowed him to return. Carter welcomed the return of "democracy" -US style.

Ten years later when Aristide refused to comply with threats from the US to privatize public utilities and break relations with Cuba (which was providing hundreds of doctors and nurses for Haiti's public health system), the US sponsored a paramilitary attack, followed by a US invasion. Aristide, the elected President, was kidnapped by US forces and flown--virtually blindfolded--to the Central African Republic. Carter did not protest the gross US intervention but questioned Aristide's election. Carter's criticism of Aristide (at a time when Aristide was a prisoner in the Central African Republic) provided a fig leaf of legitimacy for the US invasion, kidnapping, occupation and establishment of a murderous puppet regime. The US intervention in Haiti was seen in Washington as a "dress rehearsal" for an invasion of Venezuela.

Nicaragua 1979: Part I--Carter and Somoza


In June 1978, President Jimmy Carter sent a private letter to the Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza lauding Somoza for the "human rights initiatives" while he criticized Somoza publicly. Carter had made "human rights" a centerpiece of his interventionist propaganda ( Morris Morley, Washington, Somoza and the Sandinistas, 1994, pp 115-116). This two-faced policy occurred during one of the bloodiest periods of Somoza's rule when he was bombing cities sympathetic to the revolution. Carter's rhetorical declaration of concern for human rights was for public consumption, his private assurances to Somoza encouraged the dictator to continue his scorched earth policy.

Nicaragua May 1979 : Part II--Carter Proposes Intervention

In June 1993 the Foreign Minister under the late Panamanian President Torrejos told me of President Carter's briefest regional meeting. It took place less in May 1979 less than two months before Somoza was overthrown. Carter convened a meeting of foreign ministers of several Latin American countries who were opposed to Somoza's dictatorship. President Carter entered and immediately tabled a proposal to form an "Inter-American Peace Force", a military force of US and Latin American troops to invade Nicaragua to "end the conflict" and support a diverse coalition. The purpose, according to the former Panamanian minister present, was to prevent a Sandinista victory, preserving Somoza's National Guard and replace Somoza with a pro-US conservative civilian junta. Carter's proposal was rejected unanimously as unwarranted US intervention. Carter in a pique ended the meeting abruptly. Carter's attempt to throttle a popular revolution to preserve the Somocista state and US dominance clearly belied his pretensions of being a "human rights" President. His legacy of using "Human Rights" to project imperial military power became standard operating procedure for Reagon, Clinton and both Bush presidencies.

Afghanistan: Carter Finances the Invasion of Islamic Terrorists

In the late 1970's Afghanistan was ruled by a nationalist secular regime allied with the Soviet Union. The regime promoted gender equality, free universal education for women and men, agrarian reform including the redistribution of feudal estates to poor peasants, the separation of religion and the state and adopted an independent foreign policy with a Soviet tilt. Beginning at least as early as 1979, the US, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia orchestrated a massive international recruiting campaign of Islamic fundamentalist to engage in a "Jihad" against the "atheistic communist regime." Tens of thousands were recruited, armed by the US, financed by Saudis Arabia and trained by the CIA and Pakistani Intelligence. Pakistan opened its frontiers to the flood of armed invaders. Internally the displaced Mullahs, horrified by the equality and education of women, not to speak of the expropriation of their huge land holdings, joined the Jihad en masse.

The Carter Presidency (and not Reagan) was responsible for the organization, financing, training of the Islamic uprising and the terror campaign which followed. Zbig Brzesinski later wrote of the US--Afghanistan campaign as one of the high points in US Cold War diplomacy--it provoked Soviet intervention on behalf of the secular Afghan ally. Even when confronted with the consequences of the total devastation of Afghanistan, the rise of the Taliban and Al Queda and 9/11, Carter's former National Security Adviser, Brzesinski replied that these were marginal costs in comparison with a war which successfully hastened the fall of the Soviet Union. President Carter's intervention in Afghanistan initiated the Second Cold War, which was pursued with even greater intensity by Reagan. Carter backed a series of surrogate wars in Angola, Mozambique, Central American, the Caribbean and elsewhere. Carter was clearly an advocate and practitioner of the worst kind of imperial intervention and a master of public relations: he was an early practitioner of "Humanitarian Imperialism"--humane in rhetoric and brutally imperialist in practice.

The Carter Factor: Venezuela 2002-2004

Nowhere and at no time does Jimmy Carter, the kindly-appearing human rights rhetorician, pose a more dangerous threat to democratic freedoms and national independence than he does today in Venezuela. With the ardent backing of the violence-prone opposition, Carter has frequently intervened in Venezuelan politics, presenting himself as a neutral mediator. At every step of the way Carter has moved to legitimate an opposition engaged in coups, uprisings, paramilitary terrorists and bosses lockouts devastating the economy. Carter convinced President Chavez to "reconcile" with the elite leaders and supporters of a violent coup which briefly overthrew his elected government. He continually pressured the elected President to negotiate and "share power" with an opposition even after he had won six national elections. Carter refused to recognize Chavez' electoral victories and constitutional mandates--instead he supported the opposition's demand for new unscheduled elections and then promoted the "referendum". Carter endorsed the referendum results pronounced by the opposition--even though there were gross electoral violations. He then exercised pressure on the National Electoral Council to accelerate its examination of votes--urging them to get on with the referendum. Carter never acknowledged hundreds of thousands of instances of voter fraud (as he refused to do in the case of Juan Bosch's stolen victory earlier) and fraudulent identity cards. Carter was acting in Venezuela as the "Quiet American"--one espousing high ideals while engaged in dirty tricks. The historical record is abundantly clear--Carter cannot be trusted to act as a "neutral observer". He has been and is today a partisan of US imperial interests and is not merely an "observer" but an active, insidious partner of US clients. He continues to defend and promote any political opposition or regime, any ruler or "coordinator" which will defeat popular movements and progressive governments.

Carter is not a democrat! He is a lifelong partisan of the US Empire. He is especially dangerous as the Venezuela referendum approaches. The US is illegally providing millions of dollars to the anti-Chavez opposition via the National Endowment for Democracy and other "foundations". And the Carter Institute will be there to legitimate fraud and deceit: to question the questions for the referendum and the election if Chavez wins. Carter is especially likely to take advantage of some opportunist politicos who surround Chavez and are prone to make concessions to secure "democratic legitimacy" from the presence of this envoy of Empire. Carter fits into the larger strategy of US-backed coups and lockouts, paramilitary violence and support of Colombia's military threat.

No one in the Chavez regime intent on an honest referendum can permit this pious hypocrite to play any role in Venezuela.

An Afternote: Other Human Rights Mercenaries

The US imperial state is mobilizing all of its organizational resources to defeat Chavez. In addition to Carter, Human Rights Watch (HRW), the National Endowment for Democracy and a small army of NGOs (local and international), are active on behalf of the US-orchestrated anti-Chavez campaign. "Human Rights" Director Vivanco is among the most blatant early interveners: Shortly after President Chavez concurred with the National Electoral Council decision to convoke the referendum, Vivanco announced a "report" in which he declared that Venezuela "was suffering a constitutional crisis that could affect its already fragile institutions". He accused the Chavez government of "purging and taking over the judiciary". He called for the "intervention of the US-dominated Organization of American States".

To force the Chavez government to conform to his declaration, Vivanco demanded that the World Bank and IMF suspend aid directed at "modernizing" the judicial system. Over the past 3 years, HRW has followed the State Department's lead in attacking Chavez democratic credentials--overlooking his participation (and victory) in six free electoral contests and his generous acceptance of the dubious signatures backing the referendum. HRW totally ignored the vast voter fraud by the opposition, echoing the line of the opposition. HRW leaders are rife with former US officials including its recent recruitment of Marc Garlasco, a former Defense Intelligence Agency official, as a senior military analyst.

HRW played a major role in demonizing Yugoslavia's President Milosovic, supported the US invasion of the Balkans and was silent over US war crimes, including the bombing of civilian targets, the KLA's assassination of over 2,000 Serb civilians and the ethnic purge of 200,000 non-Albanians from Kosovo. During the peace negotiations between President Pastrana and the FARC, which the US opposed and was keen on disrupting, Mr. Vivanco and HRW issued a "report" claiming that the FARC was violating all the terms of the peace negotiations--something no other human rights group on the ground in Colombia claimed--in order to pressure Pastrana to break negotiations and resume the military campaign, which he subsequently did. HRW, like the Carter Center, has already intervened on the side of the authoritarian US-backed opposition. It has smeared the independence of the courts to pressure it to conform to the opposition, it has rejected the democratic deliberations of the Venezuelan Congress and its vote on judicial reform, it has openly declared the government as illegitimate and it has already called for a US-backed intervention via the OAS.

Watch out for the humanitarian interventionists! Their presence is extremely dangerous for the integrity of the electorate and Venezuelan independence.

James Petras, a former Professor of Sociology at Binghamton University, New York, owns a 50 year membership in the class struggle, is an adviser to the landless and jobless in brazil and argentina and is co-author of Globalization Unmasked (Zed). He can be reached at: jpetras@binghamton.edu
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You are so stupid. You look like a vicous assshole when you attack Carter and you are.
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Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(judy @ Mar 9 2006, 04:02 AM) [snapback]189969[/snapback]



and the Ethiopian tyrant Mengistu (killer of many more than that).

In Haiti, Jimmy Carter told the dictator Cédras that he was

Then there's his notorious friendship with Daniel Ortega, former strongman in Nicaragua. In 1984, when the Reagan administration was trying to put maximum pressure on Ortega to submit to democracy, Carter urged Habitat for Humanity to build in Nicaragua. A fine idea, perhaps, but here's the (classic) Carter twist:

In 1990, of course, Carter traveled to Managua to monitor the elections and to certify what he figured — and hoped, it seemed — would be a Sandinista victory. When the democratic opposition won instead, Carter was memorably churlish, even bitter. As Kirkpatrick says, "You'd have thought a democrat would be happy."
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Jimmy by his own word alone OKed the Venezuelan recall, even though an auditing firm that worked for people like the Clintons said there was likely fraud and Chavez might well have lost.

http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/2004/08/27.html


The Carter Center: With observers like these, who needs observers? Reading the audit report by the Carter Center is painful. Painful because it is sloppy, painful because it leaves a lot of material out or says things without explaining that what was done went either against the rules of the audit, an audit or the agreements made. Finally the technical aspects described are so poor and unconvincing that it makes you wonder who wrote it and if anyone approved it before releasing it. It makes you wonder if the reason that it is only available in Spanish is so that many will have no critical access to it.

Let’s look at some details:



-The report does not say that the boxes with the ballots were not under the observation of the Carter Center for over 65 hours, but goes in painstaking detail about how there were two observers from the OAS and the Center per state after that “grace” period and the like.



-The report fails to mention that the opposition requested, but was denied the opportunity to choose 50 ballot boxes to audit. This is without doubt the biggest mystery in the whole process, why didn’t the CNE allow the opposition to pick some voting centers, forcing a random sample after denying any possibility of the random sample during the petition drive to have the recall? CNE Director said in that case, he did not trust a sample and the issue was too important. Talk about a double standard, or is it a single one?



-The report mentions that 50 extra boxes were picked in case there were problems, but fails to mention that indeed there were problems and some of the boxes were actually missing and were never found!



-Why did the Carter Center fail to follow the agreement with the opposition that the random number generator supplied would be that of the center and instead, the one from the CNE was used? Moreover, all sorts of technical detail is given, but no mention I made of how the seed was chosen. Indeed, it does mention it was the same generator used on Sunday, if it had the same seed; the sequence was exactly the same! Bruni in the comments section has been wondering about this point from day one and she was right to worry!



-The report says that ballot boxes were “in several garrisons” while the CNE assured everyone that they were in the Fuerte Tiuna military facility. The report also talks about two states where the material was still “disperse” three days after the vote!



-The other report by the Carter Center is the final report on the recall vote. It has similar problems as the audit report. It does note that on Aug. 15th, “hot audit” 192 ballot boxes were supposed to be audited, but only 82 were. Moreover, it fails to say that opposition representatives were only present in 27 of them and in those, the Si vote won 63% to 37%, despite the fact that these came from seven states in which the No had won in five. Moreover, these showed no discrepancies.



-The report fails to note that while abstention was 37% in the electronic vote, it was practically zero in the remote areas where the vote was manual, exactly the opposite of what has happened historically and what happened in this election in similar areas where machines were deployed! Any of my Chavista readers can give me a coherent and plausible explanation for this not so small anomaly?



-The report mentions in passing the problem with the total number of Si votes coinciding from center to center. However, the Carter Center continues to consider the coincidences at the level of the “mesas” (tables) and not at the center level. There is a factor of five increase in coincidences when the problem is considered at the center level. No detail was provided as to what exactly the two “foreign statisticians” looked at in their studies to say that it was a mathematical probability for this to happen.



-The report does not even get right the level of abstention, the number they give (73% of the people voting) has nothing to do with any of the numbers reported by the CNE in any of its reports.



Very sloppy reports on the part of an institution that should provide international and professional class work in a process in which attention to detail and critical analysis is crucial to the accomplishment of their goals. As the saying goes: “With friends like these, who needs enemies?” or in its new version: “With observers like these, who needs observers?”





judy
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 9 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]190114[/snapback]

Jimmy by his own word alone OKed the Venezuelan recall, even though an auditing firm that worked for people like the Clintons said there was likely fraud and Chavez might well have lost.



Do you think the people will line up broiling sun and pouring rain to honor him in death as they did Ronald Reagan? Will anyone show up at his viewing besides ruthless dictators? The longer he lives, the worse he gets!
Arturo_Vandelay
QUOTE(judy @ Mar 9 2006, 09:01 AM) [snapback]190116[/snapback]


Do you think the people will line up broiling sun and pouring rain to honor him in death as they did Ronald Reagan? Will anyone show up at his viewing besides ruthless dictators? The longer he lives, the worse he gets!


A lot of people will love him, as long as he spouts the anti-US line and defends guys like Chavez. I voted for him in my very first election, though it was a close call. Since then I have steadily lost faith in his judgement and statesmanship, and now have no respect at all for him.
judy
QUOTE(Arturo_Vandelay @ Mar 9 2006, 11:11 AM) [snapback]190120[/snapback]

A lot of people will love him, as long as he spouts the anti-US line and defends guys like Chavez. I voted for him in my very first election, though it was a close call. Since then I have steadily lost faith in his judgement and statesmanship, and now have no respect at all for him.

Were you listening to Pat Robertson at the time? laugh.gif biggrin.gif I can't forget how hard he campaigned for Jimmy Carter. Now the looney left loves Carter but hates Robertson who may have turned the election from Ford to Carter.

Arturo_Vandelay
Nope, never listen to Robertson.

I grew to respect Ford, and it would have been easy for him to not pardon Nixon and allow the US to be torn apart over politics for years. As a Dem at the time I had no malice toward Ford, I just wasn't ready to vote for a Rep until after I'd taken some economics courses and paid taxes on a real paycheck.
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